2 hours ago, Remodez said:

I think people have been extremely hypercritical of Enzo for reasons that probably go beyond him as a player, i.e Blueco.

I rarely see a balanced take on here, other fans I speak to outside here seems a lot more reasonable in their assessment of him and his time here.

Every time I haven't spoken about Enzo outside of the forum and brought up the points I always bring up about him, it gets ignored and they just point at his goals and passion. Now I see people saying James should be stripped of the captaincy and Enzo made permanent captain.

24 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Now I see people saying James should be stripped of the captaincy and Enzo made permanent captain.

I'm still waiting for the club fine for Enzo throwing the ball at his own team mate.

Enzo himself would be permanently black and blue if he'd had a ball thrown at him for all his misplaced passes and mistakes this season , not that you'd be able to tell from the crappy prison ink all over him ...

6 hours ago, Deino said:

Yep. Enzo covers way more ground than Lampard and Fabregas. Even in the last game, he ran more than Caicedo, I think people are hyperfocused on his limitations.

People's expected ideal version of Enzo is a hybrid of Kante, Kovacic and Xavi.

Nothing that hasn't been said already, but my ideal version of Enzo is just someone who won't misplace a 20 yard lobbed pass to Palmer on the right wing in the same game he hits a perfect 60 one to Gusto. For me, his main problem is consistency within the 90 minutes, sometimes he looks the part and some others he barely resembles a footballer. He's got the vision, but is neither agile or precise enough to perform his tasks at creating 100%. He's got the spirit and the fight, but lacks both speed and strength to defend and press accordingly. He's even got a goalscoring touch, but can't really shoot from afar and does so anyway.

Honestly, what I really wanted with Enzo wasn't three players in one, I just wanted a Luka Modric, and that's probably the level the board thought they'd be getting at 100m+, if they actually knew something about football that is. You could say that's unfair, but he's being played as someone who's our linchpin all whilst his limitations are putting a ceiling on the team as a whole, and unfortunately not at the highest level. There are bigger problems with the team than Enzo though and that's clear for pretty much everyone in here I believe. Board>SDs>GK>LW>CB>Enzo for me at least going into the next season.

In which position did he play today, false player?

I loved the fact that he changed the game yesterday for us, drove the team on from midfield to win every 50/50, was barking instructions to players and generally put in a MOTM performance at the heart of Chelsea's midfield....

On 13/03/2026 at 20:48, Deino said:

Yep. Enzo covers way more ground than Lampard and Fabregas. Even in the last game, he ran more than Caicedo, I think people are hyperfocused on his limitations.

People's expected ideal version of Enzo is a hybrid of Kante, Kovacic and Xavi.

As always, context matters. Firstly Lampard and Fabregas played their peak in an era of the game prior to widespread adoption of pressing. Secondly, we don't have accurate numbers from back then since GPS/LPS tracking wasn't widely adopted for game days until the 2010s.

And while it is true that Fernandez regularly tops our team for distance covered, it is a blindingly obvious truth that our team run nowhere near enough compared to the rest of the league. Here's some stats from the end of November, aka when were challenging for the top; they'd be horrific now.

I thought he had a decent game vs Newcastle FWIW. Playing as an auxiliary playmaker, a bit deeper than Palmer, playing some nice balls over the top to Pedro especially. The problem, as always, is his inability to drive from midfield which is the only thing that can unsettle a defence like this.

Fermin Lopez would’ve been great.

Like I said, he'll be the first to jump ship. Think much like Havertz he'll have suitors.

Enzo Fernandez to Chelsea is what Paul Pogba was to United, but without the flair.

Big money vanity signing that promises so much but delivers very little for the responsibility they have. He's pushed as the face of the club on the back of his transfer fee while not being a particularly likeable character (big ego). He's a moments player, which is reflected by his fans pointing to the fact he won a world cup 4 years ago or a tap in he scored in a game we ultimately lost. When i think of games he has actually dominated and took the game by the scruff of the net i can only think of Liverpool 3(?) years ago.

Much like Pogba, we're consistently told we need other complimentary players to 'unlock him'. When he first signed we were told he needs a proper midfield partner, we signed Caicedo and he still couldn't play in the pivot. We were told he needs a proper striker to make the most of his play making, he's got J.Pedro banging goals in for fun and still only has 3 assists. We were told if given the freedom he would rival Lampard's goalscoring attributes, he has 6 open play goals, less than Casemiro who plays as a 6.

Let him go to PSG.

Getting the annual "Enzo could be leaving Chelsea" rumors starting up.

9 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Enzo Fernandez to Chelsea is what Paul Pogba was to United, but without the flair.

Big money vanity signing that promises so much but delivers very little for the responsibility they have. He's pushed as the face of the club on the back of his transfer fee while not being a particularly likeable character (big ego). He's a moments player, which is reflected by his fans pointing to the fact he won a world cup 4 years ago or a tap in he scored in a game we ultimately lost. When i think of games he has actually dominated and took the game by the scruff of the net i can only think of Liverpool 3(?) years ago.

Much like Pogba, we're consistently told we need other complimentary players to 'unlock him'. When he first signed we were told he needs a proper midfield partner, we signed Caicedo and he still couldn't play in the pivot. We were told he needs a proper striker to make the most of his play making, he's got J.Pedro banging goals in for fun and still only has 3 assists. We were told if given the freedom he would rival Lampard's goalscoring attributes, he has 6 open play goals, less than Casemiro who plays as a 6.

Let him go to PSG.

It's a fair comparison tactically, a nominally deeper midfielder given an attacking midfield role with mixed success. Pogba was hitting 15+ G/A in his peak seasons at Man U. Fernandez's best is 13, last season. And Pogba was genuinely great at carrying the ball.

I think there are a few things we can do to get more out of Enzo. You could play him with a ball carrier, or use a proper DM so that Caicedo can play that role (as he did at Brighton). That would allow him to get in the box more as a second striker. Unfortunately, he does not want to play deeper even though most would agree it suits his actual skill set better.

The good news for Enzo's fans is that he's unlikely to leave. No scout analyst worth their salt looks at his numbers against the club's asking price and thinks that's a good bet. Clubs won't be interested unless the asking fee is around 70m.

Haha I called it.

💯 the first one to jump ship. Twat.

Whether its a genuine quote or not is almost irrelevant to me.

Bottom line is that if we could get a price for Enzo which didn't plunge us into even further FFP peril then punting him would be a good first step in a longer term plan to rebuild. His sale certainly wouldn't make us a worse team.

17 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Haha I called it.

💯 the first one to jump ship. Twat.

Every cloud...

1 minute ago, 2211 said:

Every cloud...

LOL

The footballing gods finally take pity on us !

He can f**k off. Not fit to shoe the laces of Lampard, Ballack, Wise etc.

c**t

Hopefully he will leave this summer and we get a decent amount for him.

Forget about how much we paid for him, honestly I think he’s worth about 30m, 40m at a push.

Pains me thinking where else that 100m could have gone. Him and Caicedo are night and day.

He’s a problem we really didn’t need. Just like Havertz, he held us back, we’re constantly trying to find his position instead of building a system that actually works. As soon as he’s gone, we can focus on getting the right players in the right positions and let the system do its job.

Obviously thats asking too much from our fantastic sporting directors.

I mean I'm done caring who leaves or who doesn't. If the club continue to hire sh*t then we go nowhere anyway. Enzo is a good player and we'd miss his leadership qualities, but players come and go. He's been here for 3/4 seasons and isn't progressing to potentially winning trophies, so I cannot blame him for wanting out, especially if a Real Madrid came in. These players were sold a dream that hasn't transpired.

1 hour ago, loz said:

Whether its a genuine quote or not is almost irrelevant to me.

Bottom line is that if we could get a price for Enzo which didn't plunge us into even further FFP peril then punting him would be a good first step in a longer term plan to rebuild. His sale certainly wouldn't make us a worse team.

I'd be running the guantlet of a points deduction to rid the club of him.

I'd respect him even more if he leaves. BlueCo isn't interested in winning trophies or hiring managers that can further develop him as a player

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Haha I called it.

💯 the first one to jump ship. Twat.

To play where? Who is he benching? He isn’t starting ahead of Bellingham, Guler, Valverde, so I am very confused. This feels like a phantom move, like the Maresca to City one.

Not caring if Enzo leaves is fine, I dont rate him too highly either. However, there’s a couple of concerns:

1: Enzo looks like one of a few at the Club that actually cares about winning. We cant afford to lose more of that mentality

2: If Enzo leaves against the Clubs will, how do you think Caicedo/Palmer/Pedro/Estevao will respond to that? It might be like a house of cards where all serious players realize «this is not working, get me out»

We’re not a serious club anymore, and the players are waking up to that

11 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

Not caring if Enzo leaves is fine, I dont rate him too highly either. However, there’s a couple of concerns:

1: Enzo looks like one of a few at the Club that actually cares about winning. We cant afford to lose more of that mentality

2: If Enzo leaves against the Clubs will, how do you think Caicedo/Palmer/Pedro/Estevao will respond to that? It might be like a house of cards where all serious players realize «this is not working, get me out»

We’re not a serious club anymore, and the players are waking up to that

Agree with this largely but:

1. He's exuberant in his passion and he clearly cares, can't fault him for that. However, caring about winning and actually being able to affect the outcome are two different things. For each game he's made a decisive play there's two other games where his lack of involvement results in a loss. We've had mouthy, passionate players before (Drogba, Costa, Terry, Ashley Cole, Rudiger) but unlike Enzo they were consistent gamebreakers. Passion without action makes you look like a fool, tbh.

2. No club can truly hold a player against their will, long contracts or not. There are so many get-out clauses like the Webster ruling that effectively nullify long contracts.

   I don't share his optimism that there will be a mountain of suitors. Firstly the one club linked with him now has 8 reasons why he wouldn't improve their team. Madrid would only want him if he was keen to play deeper - their priority will be a DM this summer and I wouldn't be surprised if Caicedo is their number one target. Barcelona or Atletico can't afford him, the other PL clubs are well aware of his limitations so that really only leaves Bayern.

4 hours ago, markpitts said:

To play where? Who is he benching? He isn’t starting ahead of Bellingham, Guler, Valverde, so I am very confused. This feels like a phantom move, like the Maresca to City one.

Agreed. Fishing expedition to try and generate some interest.

Realistically we would expect to receive 80m minimum for him, regardless of what he's worth. Do that and we could reinvest in Elliott Anderson, especially If Forest go down.

But so can everyone else. So if you are Bayern and you looking to revamp the aging Goretza - Kilmichael partnership with some mobile, strong, playmaker, then go get Anderson. Why would Anderson come here when he could gk to a club like Bayern.

The point being even if Fernandez does want a move and the club are prepared to sell him out of his death row contract, there will still be better players available as well.

I rate Enzo and we should have clearly built around him, James, Caicedo and Palmer, but this stupid board insisted on their idea of trying to have a team full of youths all around the pitch. This might work in the NBA or MLB where clubs do not relegate, nor play UCL type of competitions and fans don't really care about a club being sh*t for 10 years. These Blueco f**ks thought the Chelsea fans are in some way similar to those consumerism like American ones that do not invest that much passion and only watch sports for the sake of staying glued to the TV.

Enzo will get offers. Madrid will invest in a midfielder and so will PSG if Vitinha wants out. If Vitinha goes to Madrid, PSG will move for Enzo. If he does not, then Madrid will make a move for Enzo.

The big question, though? Where will the money go? If it's a couple of 21 year olds or some other young, overrated 60M player, we truly are f**ked.