2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

That is not my problem.

You really can't compare a player who hasn't played football for 6 months to a fully fit player

Who is comparing who against who? What are you on about. People are merely saying he shouldn't be starting the games. He is clearly not fit enough or ready for the PL.

15 hours ago, 2211 said:

Tosin is probably our best defender with Colwill out.

He gets in trouble when Chalobah dives in near the half way line and doesn’t win the ball, he did it against Fulham for their ‘goal’ and he did it again for the 1st Brentford goal.

Completely disagree to be honest. For me Chalobah is the better. Anytime someone has the opportunity to run at Tosin he almost always looks lost.

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I am very confused with many fans opinions of Tosin. Tosin has done this many times since last season, he simply doesn't have the speed nor the agility to defend open space. And we are not talking against mbappe, we are talking against about some random st.

Speed yes (one of the fastest in PL), agility no. He takes a long time to hit his stride but we've seen twice already this season he is easily faked out by anyone with a bit of speed and skill.

2 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Speed yes (one of the fastest in PL), agility no. He takes a long time to hit his stride but we've seen twice already this season he is easily faked out by anyone with a bit of speed and skill.

Not just this season, this also happen last season. Everytime he need to defend open space, he simply can't do it.

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Who is comparing who against who? What are you on about. People are merely saying he shouldn't be starting the games. He is clearly not fit enough or ready for the PL.

Nvw, I read your post wrongly

Tosin is a solid back up, but he should not be a starter for a team trying to win trophies and the same with Chalobah if we're honest. I do feel sympathy for Maresca because he was aware of this as well, but then I remember he put Fofana at f**king RB and the sympathy somewhat decreases.

2 hours ago, Remodez said:

Completely disagree to be honest. For me Chalobah is the better. Anytime someone has the opportunity to run at Tosin he almost always looks lost.

When we played against st like c wood, I want tosin. Colwil n Chalobah biggest weakness are against this big st.

56 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

When we played against st like c wood, I want tosin. Colwil n Chalobah biggest weakness are against this big st.

Colwill yes, Chalobah is more 50/50 as he's done it against big ST's before but also gotten builled.

5 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Who is comparing who against who? What are you on about. People are merely saying he shouldn't be starting the games. He is clearly not fit enough or ready for the PL.

Totally agree WW. Fofana should not be starting EPL games this early in his latest comeback. Especially not at RB!! Another Maresca "look at me, aren't I brilliant" decision.

Fofana, with his injury record, needs to be eased back in even more slowly than Reece was.

This isn't even considering the form Chalobah has been in for months, especially at RCB. Not to mention Gusto at fullback who has done well partnering with Estevao and Palmer.

But no. Maresca's favorite boy (who I believe is Fofana) became available so he unsettled and already unsettled defence even more. Gusto on the bench and Chalobah playing on his opposite side.

It's almost as bad forcing Enzo on that right channel and shifting Palmer to the left.

7 hours ago, Remodez said:

Completely disagree to be honest. For me Chalobah is the better. Anytime someone has the opportunity to run at Tosin he almost always looks lost.

TBF Tosin does just back off, back off again hoping to block the final shot, ideally we’d upgrade at least one of them but here we are.

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He got done same against Fulham pretty much carbon copy goal.

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

He got done same against Fulham pretty much carbon copy goal.

2 one on one's he just backs off and allows the attacker to cut inside and have as much space as he wants.

That side of his game looks very poor.

Add that to Trev playing as a LCB and it makes for our defence looking week. Some defenders need to play ona specific side, like JT, others can play anywhere with ease, like Dave.

44 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

2 one on one's he just backs off and allows the attacker to cut inside and have as much space as he wants.

That side of his game looks very poor.

Add that to Trev playing as a LCB and it makes for our defence looking week. Some defenders need to play ona specific side, like JT, others can play anywhere with ease, like Dave.

I can guarantee we will concede this exact type of goal again this season.

It’s a combination of Maresca tactics and defenders just doing the simple thing as delaying and keeping the players from cutting inside.

He's knocked Sanchez off top spot for our biggest liability. makes disasi look like desailly.

6 days before the champions league final against Bayern.

Chelsea fan on twitter with too much time on his hands, has also uncovered old tweets of him bad mouthing John Terry (now deleted)

It’s funny because he has marketed himself well online since he joined. Posting nostalgia bait, like taking pics old Topps chrome Chelsea match cards of Didier, Lamps, JT etc and getting likes from JT himself. It is what it is really, just nice to know in times when players like to use social media to position themselves favourably with the fans; makes sense now.

21 minutes ago, Term_X said:

6 days before the champions league final against Bayern.

Chelsea fan on twitter with too much time on his hands, has also uncovered old tweets of him bad mouthing John Terry (now deleted)

It’s funny because he has marketed himself well online since he joined. Posting nostalgia bait, like taking pics old Topps chrome Chelsea match cards of Didier, Lamps, JT etc and getting likes from JT himself. It is what it is really, just nice to know in times when players like to use social media to position themselves favourably with the fans; makes sense now.

He was 15 at the time, lol.

Brother, you should see some of the edgy things I wrote about Chelsea players on this very forum at age 16, and I am a Chelsea fan

Read a mad stat he was directly involved in the team conceding a goal every 60 minutes.

Embarrassing how Colwill has held the hand for all our CBs. Acheampong now doing the same.

Many fans now are unhappy with Tosin but Tosin is fine. He is very good vs big st but as we have seen time and time again he cannot handle transition.

Why do we sign him then? He was free. Spreadsheet wise, Tosin is a fantastic signing

3 hours ago, Term_X said:

6 days before the champions league final against Bayern.

Chelsea fan on twitter with too much time on his hands, has also uncovered old tweets of him bad mouthing John Terry (now deleted)

It’s funny because he has marketed himself well online since he joined. Posting nostalgia bait, like taking pics old Topps chrome Chelsea match cards of Didier, Lamps, JT etc and getting likes from JT himself. It is what it is really, just nice to know in times when players like to use social media to position themselves favourably with the fans; makes sense now.

Do these people think Palmer wasn't sh*t talking us when he was growing up as a United fan?

13 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Do these people think Palmer wasn't sh*t talking us when he was growing up as a United fan?

You're expecting too much of them.

Worst CB we've had since Ben Haim.

Green are games Tosin didnt start.

Red are games Tosin started.

The diffeernce is so clear.

Sell asap. He is a championship player.

Fulham really should apologise to us.

I would literally rather have an acdemy player learn on the job than play him again.

He doesn't even fit in with our age policy, he's literally only here because he was free so we technically don't lose any money when he does eventually leave.

They can stick him on the payroll as Palmer's mate to keep him happy, but as a professional footballer, it's a no from me.

Shares the same agent as Maresca.

Plays Enzo ‘no matter what’, so what kind of example does that give out, in terms of setting standards. No hope in how he handles others. Meanwhile the likes of Josh get frozen out for no reason.