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Enzo M in or out? (Sep 25)

Should Enzo Maresca go now? (Sep 25) 84 members have voted

  1. 1. In or out?

    • Out
      77%
    • In - Keep him there!
      9%
    • On the fence!
      13%

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3 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

No world class manager is going to attach himself to a project unless he is looking for a quick paycheck. Top managers will not even negociate with the board if they are not guaranteed to have some experienced players be brought at the club.

Of course managers will take the job, I honestly have no idea why people think this, managers take on "impossible " jobs several times every single season.

Edited by dkw

I don't think he will be shown the door this soon but I doubt he will survive the season. That being said I also doubt we will bring in a replacement that is any more convincing. Most likely it will be Liam Rosenior from Strasbourg.

2 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

1.So who would you replace him with? No world class manager is going to attach himself to a project unless he is looking for a quick paycheck. Top managers will not even negociate with the board if they are not guaranteed to have some experienced players be brought at the club. The squad is incredibly young and talented, but the lack of experience can be seen every single week. The way it looks, the board would rather wait for another 3-4 years until they all peak at the same time, than buy some ready made, top class ones and shorten that period.

Guess this is their way of doing things and there is not a lot that we as fans can do about it, other than just support the club and be realistic.

And no, the squad in the recent weeks is not that better than results show. The center back options are some of the worst this club has had for the past decades and Caicedo basically runs that midfield all alone. 2. Let's wait for all the unavailable players to be fully fit and see how we look.

  1. Iraola or Glasner both are above us with weaker squads

  2. We had a full squad for the palace game and escaped with a point

    he was lucky last season and getting fourth, winning the Farmers league and winning the CWC (by beating one team who are better then us because they were knackered) papered over the cracks

14 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

So who would you replace him with? No world class manager is going to attach himself to a project unless he is looking for a quick paycheck. Top managers will not even negociate with the board if they are not guaranteed to have some experienced players be brought at the club. The squad is incredibly young and talented, but the lack of experience can be seen every single week. The way it looks, the board would rather wait for another 3-4 years until they all peak at the same time, than buy some ready made, top class ones and shorten that period.

Guess this is their way of doing things and there is not a lot that we as fans can do about it, other than just support the club and be realistic.

And no, the squad in the recent weeks is not that better than results show. The center back options are some of the worst this club has had for the past decades and Caicedo basically runs that midfield all alone. Let's wait for all the unavailable players to be fully fit and see how we look.

Gallardo

Out, though I’m far from convinced another coach will vastly improve us whilst the focus is on developing players to sell. The squad is filled with far too many inexperienced players. Each skilful in their own right but as a collective they are learning bad habits from each other. Young players as well as being exciting, make mistakes and are inconsistent, they need a couple of experienced heads to guide them through matches. As it is we have 20 year olds guiding 19 year olds and wonder why struggle with managing games, when you add to this an inexperienced coach…

17 minutes ago, Caps_Lock_King said:
  27 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

1.So who would you replace him with? No world class manager is going to attach himself to a project unless he is looking for a quick paycheck. Top managers will not even negociate with the board if they are not guaranteed to have some experienced players be brought at the club. The squad is incredibly young and talented, but the lack of experience can be seen every single week. The way it looks, the board would rather wait for another 3-4 years until they all peak at the same time, than buy some ready made, top class ones and shorten that period.

And he also beat the best team in the world in the CWC Final and it was not even a contest. You guys would replace him with another hipster manager just for the sake of it. A small team can make average managers look good. You look at Amorim, Sporting made him look like an actual manager, walked that league for several seasons and scored goals for fun, when the truth he is a complete buffoon and definitely the worst to have ever managed an English club.

If someone like Klopp was available, I'd have been up for it. But these managers don't take on long term projects just to develop players and wait for the moment to hit their peak so that they finally kickstart their actual job and fight for the big trophies. Up until that point there is a numbers of years of development that not a lot of managers are that eager to sign for.

2 minutes ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

Klopp is available but we wont pay him what he wants, the latest is they are looking at….Wait for it….DE ZERBI yes the ex Brighton manager

They did strongly consider him before going to Maresca. Though he is at Marseille so will mean large compo to sack Enzo and his staff staff to bring in di zerb8 and his staff . he has also shown himself a firey character so would get sick of Blueco and their model and repeat the cycle. Fits all needed points.

How about we do this in stages

  1. Sack him

  2. Then do other things like recruit someone else.

there is no evidence to suggest things would be worse without him.

1 hour ago, just said:

Gallardo! Is it that a suggestion to get the best out of Fernandez and Garnacho?

He's probably the best manager in the world who would want to join and we could get.

“Enzo Maresca has been massively unhappy with his squad and how things have operated around him since last season. He 100% has a lot of flaws too but he’s not been given what he’s asked for either. Make of it as you will. There’s another side of this

Next post… As I reported last season, a big handful of Chelsea’s players have not ‘vibed’ with Maresca. The stuff on Palmer from last season was true. And it was more than him. A good handful of them didn’t like how he was getting them to play. Is what it is.“

Maresca is clearly not happy with the squad. He’s miserable, making digs at the club and not using the squad right.

If Maresca doesn’t start being more positive and actually start working with the club/squad, he’s going to be a big trouble very quickly.

11 minutes ago, JM7 said:

“Enzo Maresca has been massively unhappy with his squad and how things have operated around him since last season. He 100% has a lot of flaws too but he’s not been given what he’s asked for either. Make of it as you will. There’s another side of this

Next post… As I reported last season, a big handful of Chelsea’s players have not ‘vibed’ with Maresca. The stuff on Palmer from last season was true. And it was more than him. A good handful of them didn’t like how he was getting them to play. Is what it is.“

Maresca is clearly not happy with the squad. He’s miserable, making digs at the club and not using the squad right.

If Maresca doesn’t start being more positive and actually start working with the club/squad, he’s going to be a big trouble very quickly.

The noises coming out all seem to point one direction now. This stuff always starts to get leaked ahead of a sacking.

I was prepared to let him continue into this season but now I want him gone.

My tipping point was the subs he made after the red card against Man Utd.

He’s not even a Pep Lite, he’s a negative coach restricting players who should be expressing themselves.

He seems to believe you can score a goal in this league and pass it around amongst yourselves for the remainder of the match without anything going wrong.

He plays for a 1-0 win, but the real kicker is we don’t even start that well and don’t always get that first goal.

If it continues we’ll lose the likes of Palmer and Caicedo, they deserve better and the day they wake up and realise that we are in big trouble.

I also don’t buy that a new manager wouldn’t make any difference at this point, it absolutely would.

We need a manager who wants to outscore his opponents not a manager who thinks about conceding less goals than his opponents - there’s a difference between the two ways of thinking.

Even Big Sam let Jay Jay Okocha be a maverick in his team.

Maresca is sucking the fun out of this football team.

Out!

49 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

The noises coming out all seem to point one direction now. This stuff always starts to get leaked ahead of a sacking.

Yes. certainly there are suggestions that he has fallen out with the board and that is likely to see him canned quicker than poor results alone. If our poor form continues this week it won't be a surprise if they get rid of him over the international break.

Easy. Out.

I haven't been a fan since before he even became manager, and he's done nothing to make me feel like he is the right guy to take us forward.

But there is one thing even more important than getting Maresca out, and that is Winstanley and Stewart, they need to go before anybody. Outside of the owners, they are responsible for all of this. Maresca, the squad, this is all on them, this is their project and it's been a joke.

25 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Yes. certainly there are suggestions that he has fallen out with the board and that is likely to see him canned quicker than poor results alone. If our poor form continues this week it won't be a surprise if they get rid of him over the international break.

Falling out with the board would be the worst reason to sack him. If Maresca gets sacked, it should 100% be because he wasn't good enough to take this team forward. No coach could get along with this board.

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Falling out with the board would be the worst reason to sack him. If Maresca gets sacked, it should 100% be because he wasn't good enough to take this team forward. No coach could get along with this board.

That's how it should work, but we know it does not.

He is too gutless to be the manager of a club like Chelsea. Pressing the panic button because of going down to 10 men against average teams is ridiculous. I would have understood if we were playing City, Liverpool or Arsenal, but against a terrible Man Utd and Brighton, it's inexcusable.

I was watching the highlights of Crystal Palace vs Liverpool and was wondering what Maresca would have done if we were level with Liverpool in injury time. You can bet your house he would have chickened out and defended for a draw instead of trying to win the game like Palace did.

I have been indifferent about him but if he gets sacked, he will definitely deserve it. However, for the club to go forward, we need a serious look at the board and transfer committee (or whatever it's called). We need to stop spending stupid money on unproven players. It's not working

9 hours ago, 2211 said:

I was prepared to let him continue into this season but now I want him gone.

My tipping point was the subs he made after the red card against Man Utd.

He’s not even a Pep Lite, he’s a negative coach restricting players who should be expressing themselves.

He seems to believe you can score a goal in this league and pass it around amongst yourselves for the remainder of the match without anything going wrong.

He plays for a 1-0 win, but the real kicker is we don’t even start that well and don’t always get that first goal.

If it continues we’ll lose the likes of Palmer and Caicedo, they deserve better and the day they wake up and realise that we are in big trouble.

I also don’t buy that a new manager wouldn’t make any difference at this point, it absolutely would.

We need a manager who wants to outscore his opponents not a manager who thinks about conceding less goals than his opponents - there’s a difference between the two ways of thinking.

Even Big Sam let Jay Jay Okocha be a maverick in his team.

Maresca is sucking the fun out of this football team.

Out!

This is the crux of it.

Watching MOTD last night and I know I'm getting slightly obsessed with Glasner but wow, Palace battered Liverpool in the first half and should have been 4-0 up. And that because his philosophy is to aim to WIN every game, rather than try not to lose.

This squad of our is crying out for a coach who can play good, attacking football and get the best out of the talents we have. Maresca will NEVER be that man. Glasner won't stay at Palace long time 'cos he is that good and a bigger club will come in for him. I expect Man United are thinking about it right now, so we should get in NOW!

But I know it won't happen as this board love a yes-man and we are stuck with the SD's who have too much say and proper coaches won't like the idea of working with them.

So want Maresca gone and other than Glasner, Fabregas and Iraola would be the other two choices.

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