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Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager

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20 minutes ago, brakeit said:

b.s.

Conte said it clearly, that he have zero word about the transfers and every transfer that the board make is not his choice.

He wanted Lukaku, they bring Morata.
He clearly said he wanted Walker/Danilo and Mendy/Sandro they bring him Zapacostta and Emerson Palmeri.

He wanted Tolliso, they bring Bakayoko ....

He wanted Bonucci/Van Dajk, they get him Rudiger.

He wanted Dzeko, they bring Giroud .....

Bakayoko is long term target, he is not Conte choice. And Conte said by himself he wanted Matic to stay in the team. The board sell him.

Conte also wanted Kolibali, Bonucci, Van Dajk, Chamberlane, Candreva, Dzeko, Sanchez, Vidal and so on, and the board brings complete different players ....

They bring injured players that cost less.

This is so wrong, someone else to make the transfers ....

If you choice manager, and he show you, he is good enough, and you pay him so much, and at the end his head is on the line, then he should be making the squad and transfers.

Thats how a club should be run.

Okay the board could said to him, look we have policy to bring expense players, who is young, untill 25, so we can use it for long time, and at the begining of the season, they should said to him, this is your budget for the season, no matter if its 100m, 200m, 300m, 500m. get what you want, and our scouts will help you.

Then he said his target and they should try the best to bring it to the club.

See what Conte said:

“I think the club decide our transfer market. As I said before, my task is to try to improve the team. About the transfer market, from the summer, the club decides every single player.”

 

 

All of that is heavy speculation, you don't know that for definite with maybe a few exceptions. You can't put an opinion that boldly when you're left in the dark just as much as the rest of us.

Unless you know what goes on inside our club and Conte's head then you know just about as much as we do, practically nothing. 

Edited by Slojo

Slojo, speculation is what other is doing.

I`m putting Conte own word. I doubt he will said this and that, if its not true. And the board didn`t handle the situation. They should have have talk with Conte long time ago or if they see he is so pissed, they should have changed him.

And Conte by himself said for Sanchez. Yeah i like him, but i don`t think we are trying to get him. Isn`t that completely obvious what he means?
Danilo by himself said Conte wanted, but our club was too slow, and City steal it from us.

Conte by himself said he wanted Mendy and Walker. Our board failed with both, because was too slow. They didn`t wanted to f*** the deal with Bakayoko, which take so much time, and that`s why they didn`t start to negotiate for Mendy. And for Walker, they was trying to lower the price. Sandro is obvious Conte target, and the idiotic board took the whole window trying to get him, and they failed.
Same thing happen with Lukaku. His manager confirm it. United was fast and they simply stole it from the board.

Some of you was fast to forget how slow the board acted at transfer window and what was our squad for the first game we lose it.

Did you forget Conte said it by himself, he didn`t want Matic to be sold and it was the board choice.

Can you imagine how frustrated he was, they are selling him players, that he don`t want to be sell? What was Marina thinking ? Tell me, that he will have the motivation to made another wonder and win us the title again ???

That he will have desire to do it ? By fu***** him so hard? She is stupid as hell. She should be fired right away. That ******.

Or Conte could not see that Guardiola and Mourinho failed last season, but they get what they want from their board and they get supported???

Mourinho get Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Mhitarian, Ibrahimovic, Matic and so on, same goes for Guardiola and even Klopp gets what he asked from Liverpool. Yeah they don`t have big money, but they support his manager and brings him what he want.

He wanted Mane, they spend 35m. on him, he wanted new GK, they get him, he wanted Salah, they spend 50m on him, he wanted Keita, they spend 70m. on him, he wanted Van Dajk, they broke the record and sign him for 75m, they even stole Chamberlane from us for 35m, because Klopp wanted him. They brought him Wijnaldum for 23m. also. Thats how you make manager to be happy and to stay with this team. Not by fu**** him over and over again.

On this players only, they spend close to 300m, and all it`s whats manager wanted.

We get disgrace after disgrace on the transfer window. No matter if it`s me or you, or Conte, we would be rightly pissed so.

You are fast to forget how much hits we recieve in the transfer windows and how many players they stole us from now. And it`s all board fault.

I can`t forget the last season and how Conte destroy every single team in PL, 13 straight victories. He deserve to be given 300m. from the board and let him choice the player he wanted and put us on next level, and then if he fail, then slam him and if they want sack him. They simply destroy his confidence and his desire.

How could he be able to get result he, the board and we wanted???

With such type of world class manager, you have to please them and make them happy, otherwise you lose them.
That`s why Guardiola choiced City, not us. If he was here, he would do the same, or maybe even worst.

So, sorry but i won`t say a single bad word for the man, that took us from 10 place, and made us Champions, where none was given us a chance for it. He was even the first manager on the list to be sacked .....

This is the man, who build this great Juventus team. Juventus before him, was 7th in two straight years, he took them, and make them Champions 3 time in a row and broke a record for it.

I made be on the board side, if this was the first time it happen in our team, but this is the 3rd time, and two time in 2 years time, sorry but it`s obvious what the problem is.

Our season is fu**** by the board in the summer.  Whoever epxect something different, after you f***** and humiliate your manager like that, he is living in a fantasy.

You can check my comment in the summer and how i said that this will happen and we probably won`t be in top 4, and people was slamming me for that.

But i was right. And now it`s see, so no one can come here and talk me, what i said it`s not truth.

 

 

Does my head in, Chelsea was never in for Mendy or Walker and had no chance. Conte might have said he liked them as players which I vaguely remember a short comment about Walker but nothing concrete. Deals are done way before the summer and these two was always going to City. Danilo also wanted to join city, Chamberlain to Liverpool.

Was Chelsea even after Lukaku?, did he even want to sign for Chelsea?. You literally make it as simple as manager wants player and the player should sign, if only football was as simple as that. Players can actually turn Chelsea down.

It's all speculation and none of us know the truth but the board have made mistakes and Conte will say or do anything to cover his own arse.

 

 Ernie_blue , thats b.s. at higher level.

Conte himself admit he wanted Walker and Mendy.

Everton director said Lukaku was going our way, be was too slow.

Our offert in the end of the summer show that.

It`s obvious when speculation are truth and where there is only rumours.

We was first after Walker. But the price was high for our board, thats why City come and buy it.

It`s also b.s. that transfer are made before the window .... Some maybe, but most are not.

And because i`m speaking with facts, unlike you, who support the board only and was very quiet last season, here we go:

Conte said: “If you want Walker, you know that Walker is expensive. We tried to buy Walker.”

He added: “If I had to buy one striker, I’d go for Kane.
“For me, Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. He is just a complete striker.

Even Tottenham confirm there was offer for Walker, but was too little, too late.

"Honestly, I think now every single player is expensive. For you to even enquire about one player, he is expensive.

"You go to buy a right-back, a left-back or a central defender and he is expensive. It is very difficult in the transfer market for the teams that need to improve their squads."

 

However, Standard Sport understands that Chelsea only made their move for the 27-year-old just before his switch to the Etihad Stadium was complete. It is believed the bid was lower than the £45million plus add-ons that Tottenham had already agreed with Manchester City and was instantly rejected.

For Danilo, Real wanted 20m., Marina was trying to play lowblow again and City just paid the price and they get us from us. City at first was going for Dany Alves my pal.
Once again detroy your theory about transfers are made before the summer. AHahhahaha, this is a joke ....

Same s*** for Barkley in the summer and for Chamberlane ...

 

You have to be complete bias, to said what you said and to not addmit how hord we failed in the summer transfer window.

But i will be here next season to blast you once again, when we failed hard to deliver again. I`m pretty sure for most of you, again the manager will be the problem.

Conte will go to a big team and continue winning.

So i`m done with biased blind people like you.

 

Edited by brakeit

26 minutes ago, brakeit said:

 Ernie_blue , thats b.s. at higher level.

Conte himself admit he wanted Walker and Mendy.

Everton director said Lukaku was going our way, be was too slow.

Our offert in the end of the summer show that.

It`s obvious when speculation are truth and where there is only rumours.

We was first after Walker. But the price was high for our board, thats why City come and buy it.

It`s also b.s. that transfer are made before the window .... Some maybe, but most are not.

And because i`m speaking with facts, unlike you, who support the board only and was very quiet last season, here we go:

Conte said: “If you want Walker, you know that Walker is expensive. We tried to buy Walker.”

He added: “If I had to buy one striker, I’d go for Kane.
“For me, Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. He is just a complete striker.

Even Tottenham confirm there was offer for Walker, but was too little, too late.

"Honestly, I think now every single player is expensive. For you to even enquire about one player, he is expensive.

"You go to buy a right-back, a left-back or a central defender and he is expensive. It is very difficult in the transfer market for the teams that need to improve their squads."

 

However, Standard Sport understands that Chelsea only made their move for the 27-year-old just before his switch to the Etihad Stadium was complete. It is believed the bid was lower than the £45million plus add-ons that Tottenham had already agreed with Manchester City and was instantly rejected.

For Danilo, Real wanted 20m., Marina was trying to play lowblow again and City just paid the price and they get us from us. City at first was going for Dany Alves my pal.
Once again detroy your theory about transfers are made before the summer. AHahhahaha, this is a joke ....

Same s*** for Barkley in the summer and for Chamberlane ...

 

You have to be complete bias, to said what you said and to not addmit how hord we failed in the summer transfer window.

But i will be here next season to blast you once again, when we failed hard to deliver again. I`m pretty sure for most of you, again the manager will be the problem.

Conte will go to a big team and continue winning.

So i`m done with biased blind people like you.

 

Your favourite words are B.S. or cry, which you do plenty of both. It's like you are an insider and seem to think you know everything, Walker would have been going to City even before the summer, the fee might not have been agreed but Walker would have known about City's interest. How do you even know Walker wanted to join Chelsea? How do you know if Chelsea and Conte might have only wanted Walker when they learned of City's interest? You literally know nothing and it gets boring reading all your crap. Danilo turned Chelsea down and I'm not surprised really, the Pep project is exciting and will win plenty of trophies while playing good football.

You literally just live on speculation to feed your biased view, I know the board haven't been great but I can actually accept Conte has made many many mistakes this season, yeah he will go to PSG and win the league, my nan would win the league there with PSG. I can accept both parties have made mistakes but I don't bang on about speculation.

None of us have any idea what's going on behind the scenes, you seem to forget players can turn Chelsea down, clubs can even reject selling to another club. We don't know who the club truly targets but just guess. After this season I couldn't trust anything Conte has said, his the man who txts a player of a football club that he longer wants and expects the club to deal with the consequences.

Then your view is truly flawed because you say you will blast me when we don't deliver again, I guess this is something to do with the board. I fully expect the board to not have a good window, history tells us this so I'm not sure what you are going on about. Maybe the new manager will not cry every weekend in the press and make a sub? Might make a nice change.

Edited by Ernie_blue

7 minutes ago, brakeit said:

 Ernie_blue , thats b.s. at higher level.

Conte himself admit he wanted Walker and Mendy. Please provide links to these quotes. He said he liked them as players, never that we were going to sign them. He probably quite likes Messi too. If you think we could have signed a Spurs player you're more stupid than you sound. 

Everton director said Lukaku was going our way, be was too slow. You go on about signing Conte's players yet Conte himself said teh year before he wanted Morata. Conte got the striker he wanted. If we HAD signed Lukaku, you'd be moaning we didn't sign who Conte wanted (Morata).

Our offert in the end of the summer show that.

It`s obvious when speculation are truth and where there is only rumours. Please elaborate how you know what is obvious. 

We was first after Walker. But the price was high for our board, thats why City come and buy it. SPURS WON'T SELL TO CHELSEA.

It`s also b.s. that transfer are made before the window .... Some maybe, but most are not. Most talks will begin long before summer. Costa, Fabregas, Bakayoko even the deal to bring Conte here were rumoured from about the Christmas before they happen.

And because i`m speaking with facts, unlike you, who support the board only and was very quiet last season, here we go: You have said no facts. 0. none.

Conte said: “If you want Walker, you know that Walker is expensive. We tried to buy Walker.” I'll make the point again. SPURS WON'T SELL TO CHELSEA.

He added: “If I had to buy one striker, I’d go for Kane.
“For me, Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. He is just a complete striker. This makes no senese. Unless you're saying we should go and sign Kane? 

Even Tottenham confirm there was offer for Walker, but was too little, too late.

"Honestly, I think now every single player is expensive. For you to even enquire about one player, he is expensive.

"You go to buy a right-back, a left-back or a central defender and he is expensive. It is very difficult in the transfer market for the teams that need to improve their squads."

 

However, Standard Sport understands that Chelsea only made their move for the 27-year-old just before his switch to the Etihad Stadium was complete. It is believed the bid was lower than the £45million plus add-ons that Tottenham had already agreed with Manchester City and was instantly rejectedStandard Sport are hardly an official source. Once more. LEVY WON'T SELL TO US.

For Danilo, Real wanted 20m., Marina was trying to play lowblow again and City just paid the price and they get us from us. City at first was going for Dany Alves my pal.
Once again detroy your theory about transfers are made before the summer. AHahhahaha, this is a joke .... Danilo himself said he chose City over us. What should we do, kidnap his family and force him to sign?

Same s*** for Barkley in the summer and for Chamberlane ... Why would we want Barkley in the summer when he was inured and £25m more expensive? This was a piece of great business to wait until January. Chamberlain also chose Liverpool over us. Nothing we can do about that.

 

You have to be complete bias, to said what you said and to not addmit how hord we failed in the summer transfer window.

But i will be here next season to blast you once again, when we failed hard to deliver again. I`m pretty sure for most of you, again the manager will be the problem.

Conte will go to a big team and continue winning. I'm sure he will. He'll probably moan when the new board don't spend £30m on Candreva for him too.

So i`m done with biased blind people like you.

 

See above questions and responses.

I already answers all this questions.

If you want Walker, you know that Walker is expensive. We tried to buy Walker

Tottenham won`t sell  to us is a fact, or just your speculation ?

Didn`t some of you said the same for Arsenal and Sanchez? They won`t sell to us, but sell to United and City. This is as stupid as hell. And guess what they sell Giroud to us ....

Thats complete garbage.

Danilo, Walker, Lukaku deal was missed because of the lowblow by Marina and that she always act so, so slow.

City was never in for Danilo, we was trying to get him from Real, but we was slow as hell, Marina didn`t want to pay the 20m. and trying to get him for lower, and City came across, paid the money and of course they will get him.

There is a word, act fast, before the rest and do your job early and you will enjoy good season !!! Unlike what we did, act slow and late as always.

And do Zapacostta, Giroud, Emerson, Barkley, Morata are deal, long reached before the season start? Don`t make me laugh.

I said it, some deals may be, most of them are not.

City was for Dani Alves, not for Walker or Danilo. They miss on Alves, their board act quickly and get our targets. Same happen with United, after they missed Morata.

This summer we was all for Lukaku, not Morata. United was going to him, but Real probably wanted De Gea in the other direction or a lot of money, because of that, and that`s why the deal didn`t happen.

It was complete obvious we was for Lukaku. We act slow, we see we are losing him and send panic offer in the last minuted, but United beat us, of course they will.

If we was acting a lot faster and without Marina s***, we could have get Lukaku for a lot less, for what United take him.
It`s well know fact the price gone up, when there is 2 or 3 team battleing for 1 player.

And don`t tell me we are not acting slow, and Marina negotiate so much for Llorente, Spurs steal it from us. Same happen with Chamberlane. And for Barkley i don`t know, ask Marina why she wanted him in the summer. We agreed a fee, but Barkley refuse to come.

For Chamberlain again we was slow as hell, and in the end he choice Liverpool.

 

We was also try to get Romanolli, failed, Conte wanted Kolibali failed, Van Dajk - failed, Sanchez - not even tried.


And it`s not about the players, but show the manager support.

Just like City did.

And why should i take you serious, esp you 2? Last season you was laughing at Guardiola and say how bad he is .

If he was the season he have at City, here, you would have wanted him sacked too.

He would not have much different season then Conte this year, if the board fu**** the same way ....

And no it`s not Conte problem, it`s our. Because this thing is repeatedly happen time after time. And this is the second time that happen in 2 years.

I`m done with the writing, cause i only lose time, that i need to spend in studying.

I said what i want to say and i stand by my words.


Most of you in the summer said we would be okay, the transfer windows is good, everything is okay, and blq, blq, blq ...

I was one from few to say, board fuc*** hard and not bring the manager player he wanted, and we will suffer because of that.

Because you destroy hes desire and motivation to lead this club by this way, you poison the athmosphere that way, and at the end you get what you deserve.

It happen with Jose, it would happen with Guardiola and every other top manager.

Enjoy. Next season will be completely the same. This will repeat, untill something not change inside. Abramovic change the policy this club is lead, and change most of the boards. Marina has to be first.

 

I like Conte, like him a lot. 

I thought what he did last season was an amazing achievement. Overhauling a side that had, had its worst season in over two decades and guiding us to the title. 

He implemented the biggest change to playing identity during the Roman era. We've largely played 4-3-3 or some various of but he bought in the 3 man defence and wing backs and it was a revelation. 

But this season has just been so underwhelming... Yes I think our transfer strategy has played a massive part in that and I reckon there wasn't much reluctance in allowing Michael Emenalo to leave in January. 

That said, the constant negativity surround Antonio this season has been tiresome, he's got his list of ready made excuses of why this is as good as it can get and how it isn't his fault. The passion and desire of last season just isn't there... You can see it in his body language on the touchline. He's no longer fighting for every ball, he's now often seen with his arms crossed, motionless. 

I really thought he was capable of moving the club out of the shadow of Mourinho, giving us a new identity and approach but failings on and off the pitch from Conte and the board have seen us take steps backwards and I just can't see Conte staying and being able to turn this around because he's not going to be given the freedom of transfers needed to appease him. 

It's a shame really because he was such a breath of fresh air last season, it was nice feeling so positive about the club. 

Hopefully we can win the FA Cup and he gets to bow out with a little success so as not to completely taint what a brilliant season last year was. 

57 minutes ago, brakeit said:

I already answers all this questions.

If you want Walker, you know that Walker is expensive. We tried to buy Walker

Tottenham won`t sell  to us is a fact, or just your speculation ? Yes, Modric being the start. They'd much rather sell to Manchester than a London rival. Perhaps if you were from England you'd understand the direct local rivalry.

Didn`t some of you said the same for Arsenal and Sanchez? They won`t sell to us, but sell to United and City. This is as stupid as hell. And guess what they sell Giroud to us .... They sold us Giroud, their third choice striker, to free up a move for Auba.

Thats complete garbage.

Danilo, Walker, Lukaku deal was missed because of the lowblow by Marina and that she always act so, so slow. Just gonna ignore the fact the players wanted to go elsewhere??

City was never in for Danilo, we was trying to get him from Real, but we was slow as hell, Marina didn`t want to pay the 20m. and trying to get him for lower, and City came across, paid the money and of course they will get him. What proof of this do you have? How do you know City never wanted Danilo? 

There is a word, act fast, before the rest and do your job early and you will enjoy good season !!! Unlike what we did, act slow and late as always.

And do Zapacostta, Giroud, Emerson, Barkley, Morata are deal, long reached before the season start? Don`t make me laugh. 

I said it, some deals may be, most of them are not.

City was for Dani Alves, not for Walker or Danilo. They miss on Alves, their board act quickly and get our targets. Same happen with United, after they missed Morata. We missed Lukaku and acted quickly and got Morata by this same logic. 

This summer we was all for Lukaku, not Morata. United was going to him, but Real probably wanted De Gea in the other direction or a lot of money, because of that, and that`s why the deal didn`t happen. 

It was complete obvious we was for Lukaku. We act slow, we see we are losing him and send panic offer in the last minuted, but United beat us, of course they will. Conte got what he wanted though. Morata. Your point is Conte gets nothing he wants. He got Morata. Lukaku was clearly going to be a board signing. 

If we was acting a lot faster and without Marina s***, we could have get Lukaku for a lot less, for what United take him.
It`s well know fact the price gone up, when there is 2 or 3 team battleing for 1 player.

And don`t tell me we are not acting slow, and Marina negotiate so much for Llorente, Spurs steal it from us. Thank god we didn't pay £15m for Llorente. Thank god we don't have you chucking stupid money at sh*t old players. Thank god we have Marina. You would have sold Costa for 10p because he fell out with King Conte and signed Llorente for £15m. Same happen with Chamberlane. He Wanted to go Pool. And for Barkley i don`t know, ask Marina why she wanted him in the summer. We agreed a fee, but Barkley refuse to come. We clearly told Barkley to wait until he was recovered and we'd give him more money in January. Not hard. 

For Chamberlain again we was slow as hell, and in the end he choice Liverpool. He chose Pool because they play him at CM and Conte wanted to play him RWB. 

 

We was also try to get Romanolli, failed, Conte wanted Kolibali failed, Van Dajk - failed, Sanchez - not even tried. Rudiger has been as good as all of these for 1/3 of the price. 


And it`s not about the players, but show the manager support.

Just like City did.

And why should i take you serious, esp you 2? Last season you was laughing at Guardiola and say how bad he is . Show me proof of this. You're chatting sh*t again. 

If he was the season he have at City, here, you would have wanted him sacked too.

He would not have much different season then Conte this year, if the board fu**** the same way ....

And no it`s not Conte problem, it`s our. Because this thing is repeatedly happen time after time. And this is the second time that happen in 2 years.

I`m done with the writing, cause i only lose time, that i need to spend in studying. 

I said what i want to say and i stand by my words.


Most of you in the summer said we would be okay, the transfer windows is good, everything is okay, and blq, blq, blq ... The players at Conte's disposal are good enough for top 4. We were 1 point behind Utd in January with these players. We've added to the ranks and now we're 12 points behind. Who's made us drop 11 points? The board? No. Conte. 

I was one from few to say, board fuc*** hard and not bring the manager player he wanted, and we will suffer because of that.

Because you destroy hes desire and motivation to lead this club by this way, you poison the athmosphere that way, and at the end you get what you deserve.

It happen with Jose, it would happen with Guardiola and every other top manager.

Enjoy. Next season will be completely the same. This will repeat, untill something not change inside. Abramovic change the policy this club is lead, and change most of the boards. Marina has to be first.

 

 

None of us know exactly what has gone on behind the scenes, including which players Conte wanted, and which players the club foisted on him etc..

Neverthless it is pretty clear here that both sides are to blame. Conte signed an improved contract last summer, and has spent most of the season seemingly daring the club to fire him. If he was so unhappy with board, he could have walked and refused to sign the improved deal. Or he could have demanded that certain terms (e.g. involvement over player signings) be included in the contract before he signed it. As it is once he agreed to the new contract he should have at least kept a lot of his dissatisfaction behind closed doors with the board. The public complaining has definitely not helped the team and our results may well have been better without it.

On the other hand the board must have known Conte's demands when they approached him the new contract last summer. He had already made some of his concerns known on several occasions last season so surely they knew that this pattern would continue. Presumably they were naive enough to think that they know best and could continue to make patchwork signings to the squad rather than actually looking to improve key positions. Our rivals improved their starting 11's while we stayed still (and I am being generous there). But ultimately even if we were trying to be more conscious of spending in the transfer market, there was still no excuse for signing so many squad players with existing injuries. Perhaps if we had signed fit players they would have been integrated into the first team rotation earlier in the season and we could avoided the burnout that we seem to be seeing now in certain key players. In my opinion that, combined with the numerous extra fixtures with the Champions League ultimately led to our current position. 

 

It almost seems  like he’s playing chicken with RA, daring the Russian to P45 him or he’s just lost the plot. Very surprised if he’s at Chelsea next season but with 7 league games left it seems unlikely he won’t see the season out; which means more of the same inconsistency on the pitch & probably not a marked upturn in form. Sad to see the manic league winning Conte become a static forlorn figure on the touchline. Curse of the Roman era Chelsea manager continues unabated. 

11 hours ago, brakeit said:

Slojo, speculation is what other is doing.

I`m putting Conte own word. I doubt he will said this and that, if its not true. And the board didn`t handle the situation. They should have have talk with Conte long time ago or if they see he is so pissed, they should have changed him.

And Conte by himself said for Sanchez. Yeah i like him, but i don`t think we are trying to get him. Isn`t that completely obvious what he means?
Danilo by himself said Conte wanted, but our club was too slow, and City steal it from us.

Conte by himself said he wanted Mendy and Walker. Our board failed with both, because was too slow. They didn`t wanted to f*** the deal with Bakayoko, which take so much time, and that`s why they didn`t start to negotiate for Mendy. And for Walker, they was trying to lower the price. Sandro is obvious Conte target, and the idiotic board took the whole window trying to get him, and they failed.
Same thing happen with Lukaku. His manager confirm it. United was fast and they simply stole it from the board.

Some of you was fast to forget how slow the board acted at transfer window and what was our squad for the first game we lose it.

Did you forget Conte said it by himself, he didn`t want Matic to be sold and it was the board choice.

Can you imagine how frustrated he was, they are selling him players, that he don`t want to be sell? What was Marina thinking ? Tell me, that he will have the motivation to made another wonder and win us the title again ???

That he will have desire to do it ? By fu***** him so hard? She is stupid as hell. She should be fired right away. That ******.

Or Conte could not see that Guardiola and Mourinho failed last season, but they get what they want from their board and they get supported???

Mourinho get Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Mhitarian, Ibrahimovic, Matic and so on, same goes for Guardiola and even Klopp gets what he asked from Liverpool. Yeah they don`t have big money, but they support his manager and brings him what he want.

He wanted Mane, they spend 35m. on him, he wanted new GK, they get him, he wanted Salah, they spend 50m on him, he wanted Keita, they spend 70m. on him, he wanted Van Dajk, they broke the record and sign him for 75m, they even stole Chamberlane from us for 35m, because Klopp wanted him. They brought him Wijnaldum for 23m. also. Thats how you make manager to be happy and to stay with this team. Not by fu**** him over and over again.

On this players only, they spend close to 300m, and all it`s whats manager wanted.

We get disgrace after disgrace on the transfer window. No matter if it`s me or you, or Conte, we would be rightly pissed so.

You are fast to forget how much hits we recieve in the transfer windows and how many players they stole us from now. And it`s all board fault.

I can`t forget the last season and how Conte destroy every single team in PL, 13 straight victories. He deserve to be given 300m. from the board and let him choice the player he wanted and put us on next level, and then if he fail, then slam him and if they want sack him. They simply destroy his confidence and his desire.

How could he be able to get result he, the board and we wanted???

With such type of world class manager, you have to please them and make them happy, otherwise you lose them.
That`s why Guardiola choiced City, not us. If he was here, he would do the same, or maybe even worst.

So, sorry but i won`t say a single bad word for the man, that took us from 10 place, and made us Champions, where none was given us a chance for it. He was even the first manager on the list to be sacked .....

This is the man, who build this great Juventus team. Juventus before him, was 7th in two straight years, he took them, and make them Champions 3 time in a row and broke a record for it.

I made be on the board side, if this was the first time it happen in our team, but this is the 3rd time, and two time in 2 years time, sorry but it`s obvious what the problem is.

Our season is fu**** by the board in the summer.  Whoever epxect something different, after you f***** and humiliate your manager like that, he is living in a fantasy.

You can check my comment in the summer and how i said that this will happen and we probably won`t be in top 4, and people was slamming me for that.

But i was right. And now it`s see, so no one can come here and talk me, what i said it`s not truth.

 

 

Okay so if Conte knows then why is he still here? Why is he still complaining about it?

Why didn't he just walk in the summer if he knew the board were so authoritarian and wouldn't let him have even a bit of say in the market? It does seem like Conte doesn't have a great deal of power as he likes but we are still massively in the dark about all of this. He's said a lot of things, he said we needed a much bigger squad last season we lack the depth, then he complained about us signing too many players this season. 

On April 2, 2018 at 14:42, Jezz said:

There's been a sense of inevitability for most of the season that Conte will not be coaching us next season, and I think subconsciously that's had an effect on the playing group. In essence, they've emotionally checked out and are simply going through the motions until the season concludes. Football is such a competitive game that it only requires the personnel being a couple of percent off their best (physically and mentally) to decline.

The first sign of trouble began in the off-season when Conte was unwilling to extend the duration of his contract despite a well-earned pay rise, which spoke volumes of a man who wasn't committed for the long haul after a highly successful first season, and when the summer signings were not to his liking this culminated in further problems.

Although in saying that, there's been a common trend with the club's inability to back its managers adequately in the transfer market after we win the title. It happened to Ancelotti in 2010 when we sold some experienced players but didn't replace them. It blew up in our faces in 2015 when Mourinho threw his toys out of the cot and it seems history has repeated itself albeit not as severely as the events of two seasons ago.

If we want to salvage anything from the season, then winning the FA Cup would be a nice way to see Conte off if he is leaving as most expect.

 

Conte's behavior is 1000000x worse than Jose's even most disgraceful antics. The one thing you can't take away from Mou is he was committed right up until the bitter end, Conte resigned for all intents and purposes last May. I want to us to win the FA Cup for the club, i couldn't give two flying f**ks about giving him a good send off.

Let's be honest, nobody we have been linked with have been good/attainable bar Rudiger. 

Looking at the rumours from last season:

Sandro, Vidal, Belotti, Lukaku, Bonucci, Morata, Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Barkley, Zappacosta, Danilo, Candreva, Lorrente, Nainggolan and Chamberlain.

Sandro was a first team player at a top club. How many first team players do you see being sold byour top clubs? Especially considering he showed zero interest in moving.

Vidal was the same situation as Sandro. No way we get him as he was Bayerns best midfielder last year. 

Belotti was a one season wonder with a £90m price tag slapped on him (Owner came out and said it). Proof being he is not even in double figures this season.

Lukaku is a lumbering oaf that lacks technical ability. Proven goalscorer but little else for Everton. 

Bonucci is well known that he does not want to leave Italy. Waste of time even trying.

Morata hadn't had a single season as as first choice striker and only had one season where he scored more then double digits. Was just as likely to fail as he was to succeed.

 Bakayoko had a good 6 months and was largely accepted as the worst player in the Monaco first team. Many knowledgeable fans of the French League said he was sh*t.

Squad player for Leicester. Leicester are a mid table side despite their freak season.

 Barkley was living off hype from 3 years a go and hadn't progressed at all. Was a decent player for a mid table side.

Zappacosta was floating around in mid table of Serie A with zero big clubs sniffing around.

Danilo was shown to be absolutely crap at Real Madrid and clearly not up to La Liga level. Awful player.

Candreva is average Italian winger who would've been shoved in the wing back role.

Lorrente. sh*t in every metric.

Nainggolan stated he never wanted to leave Roma. I doubt we had any chance of signing him no matter how much people believed we could (Just like Man Utd couldn't make him budge).

Chamberlain is crap and also refused to sign on to play as a wing back. Wasn't happening.

 

Whether Conte chose some or the club chose some, the players targeted were either not near Chelsea level or unrealistic to the extreme. In my opinion both the club and Conte are completely sh*t at identifying targets. 

Conte's behavior is 1000000x worse than Jose's even most disgraceful antics. The one thing you can't take away from Mou is he was committed right up until the bitter end, Conte resigned for all intents and purposes last May. I want to us to win the FA Cup for the club, i couldn't give two flying f**ks about giving him a good send off.
What a load of c***
4 hours ago, Argo said:

Conte's behavior is 1000000x worse than Jose's even most disgraceful antics. The one thing you can't take away from Mou is he was committed right up until the bitter end, Conte resigned for all intents and purposes last May. I want to us to win the FA Cup for the club, i couldn't give two flying f**ks about giving him a good send off.

Exactly this. Could not give a f**k about this guy. 

Edited by didierforever

15 hours ago, forbzy said:

None of us know exactly what has gone on behind the scenes, including which players Conte wanted, and which players the club foisted on him etc..

Neverthless it is pretty clear here that both sides are to blame. Conte signed an improved contract last summer, and has spent most of the season seemingly daring the club to fire him. If he was so unhappy with board, he could have walked and refused to sign the improved deal. Or he could have demanded that certain terms (e.g. involvement over player signings) be included in the contract before he signed it. As it is once he agreed to the new contract he should have at least kept a lot of his dissatisfaction behind closed doors with the board. The public complaining has definitely not helped the team and our results may well have been better without it.

On the other hand the board must have known Conte's demands when they approached him the new contract last summer. He had already made some of his concerns known on several occasions last season so surely they knew that this pattern would continue. Presumably they were naive enough to think that they know best and could continue to make patchwork signings to the squad rather than actually looking to improve key positions. Our rivals improved their starting 11's while we stayed still (and I am being generous there). But ultimately even if we were trying to be more conscious of spending in the transfer market, there was still no excuse for signing so many squad players with existing injuries. Perhaps if we had signed fit players they would have been integrated into the first team rotation earlier in the season and we could avoided the burnout that we seem to be seeing now in certain key players. In my opinion that, combined with the numerous extra fixtures with the Champions League ultimately led to our current position. 

 

This is the part that puzzles me. How did both parties not know what they were getting into from the start let alone the new contract? 

I cant make sense of it. Either Conte should have been made clear he'd have little influence on who comes in or the board should have known he'd want certain players of his choosing. It's almost like neither mentioned it during negotiation or Conte wanted the money and the board were desperate for a manager. 

They have both been playing chicken from the start and the fans have lost.

So @brakeit you are convinced Conte has no say in signing's? Well im sorry but that doesn't add up.

Now there are some that were evidently more the boards doing like Barkley and Bats but in general the shift in transfer targets since Conte's arrival makes it a remarkable and borderline unrealistic coincidence if he has no say. How do you explain us not signing a Serie A player for ten years  (Sheva was the last one pre Conte) then as soon as Conte comes in half our signings are from that league? How do you explain his previous use of target men for Juve and the Italian national team then all off a sudden he arrives at Chelsea and we start getting linked with every target man under the sun?

Edited by Argo

“I think the club decide our transfer market. As I said before, my task is to try to improve the team. About the transfer market, from the summer, the club decides every single player.”

“Sometimes you must accept this crazy transfer market and sometimes you must accept different decisions.

“Bakayoko is a good signing for us. He is very young. My idea was to give Bakayoko the right time to adapt in this league behind Matic. But now after the sale of Matic, we need to try to accelerate this process for Bakayoko after his injury.”

“It’s very important to have the coach and the club with the same ambition: to improve the team, the idea of football and the quality of your players,” Conte told reporters. “If you find this situation, probably the season will finish with success...

“I have great ambition but I don’t have money for Chelsea. The club knows very well what is my idea, what is my ambition... When you decide to work with this type of coach, you must understand that you take a coach with great ambition.”

Conte believes Chelsea have failed to sufficiently improve the squad after last season’s triumph, saying that City had wrapped up the title in the first half of the current campaign.

“Last season we did a fantastic job. We were a great surprise... But then you have to continue to build something important with the coach,” Conte added.

“Manchester City won it (this season’s title) in that first part of the season. This must be a great frustration for me, for my players, for my club. If your name is Chelsea, you have to try to fight until the end.”

And yeah surely Emerson and Zapacosta is Conte choices. You can see it clearly by how much they play. Absolutely the same with Michy Batshuai. :biggrin:

But why i tried, Conte himself said for Walker, then you have Sandro, Mendy and Danilo.

But yeah of course, Zapacostta and Emerson(coming after injury) are Conte choices.

Why didn`t he play them, then ????

But why i even try it. It`s obvious who`s fault is.

Next season will show who was right and who is not.

Because of this board we going straight down. No chance of winning something big in the next 2-3 years.

Conte will go to a top team and will win trophies. We will have problem, first to get top manager, and then to win something with that board....

It`s also Conte fault the same thing happen with Jose. And before that with Ancelotti. Carlo Ancelotti said by himself in the second season the same thing. That he is just a coach here, not a manager, a coach.

And he get zero word for transfers.

And then some of you last season was saying how bad Guardiola is, now you prise him. Hahahahah you are so fun.

And some of you was thinking why he choice City over us, isn`t it obvious why ???

If you want to have top manager, if you have to support him and help him with the team, not f**** him, not asking what players to bring and to sell players against his will. No top manager will work for you that way.

 

 

Edited by brakeit

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