1 hour ago, evissy said:

Read his statement. He has talked to manager earlier that he is very ambutious and if a window opens he might move on. It has happened and he wants to move on to play probably at his level. I have no qualms and hope he gets his chance.

I don't see we actually need to strenghten CB dept but if Conte needs him then by all means.

If Chelsea wasn't such a big club we could have probably seen JT, Frankie, Drogba leave much earlier. Just the way it goes.

We have been quite lucky with our player's ever since the Gullit era really, apart from Robben i don't think any player has left us who we have been desperate to keep, even Costa seem's a pretty mutual parting. Arsenal, Liverpool and even United have regularly fallen victim in that regard but we don't seem too.

2 hours ago, BordeauxBlue said:

It would be the most damning verdict on our loan / youth system to date if Christensen ends up getting punted out for a £50m VVD.

I'll call it now, if we sell Christenson he will end up at a top club for plus 50 mill him self 

I'd be all for signing him if we hadn't a;ready signed Rudiger, but if we sign him now, then that's it for Christensen, and that will come back to haunt us like Lukaku and De Bruyne when he ends up at a rival in a year or 2.

I kind of wish we hadn't signed Rudiger to be honest.

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by Zeta

Calling it - Van Dijk goes to City, Aurier goes to Utd and Sandro stays at Juve.

I get the impression he was set on joining Liverpool but now his circumstances and relationship with Southampton has deteriorated to the point that he's just looking for an out. 

think he is very good but we bought rudiger so I can't see how he will fit in unless we drop one of luiz/Cahill? 

 

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by Jezq8

5 minutes ago, Jezq8 said:

think he is very good but we bought rudiger so I can't see how he will fit in unless we drop one of luiz/Cahill? 

 

Make it Cahill please please please...

Just now, doctorblue said:

Make it Cahill please please please...

Why would Conte make Cahill captain then?

It the one position that RIGHT NOW we don't actually need anything, however, we have all seen how one season you have it, the next it's gone, Ivan and JT both slowing down considerably, Ivan fell of a cliff. Look "tup" north and recall what happens to Vidic and Rio..so while it might seem silly to throw money at the position right now it might be a smart move to secure are defense for the next 5 years. 

 

(I started to write this post thinking it was really a stupid move)

We could always loan Rudiger to Vitesse.

Given the amount of goals we conceded last season and lack of clean sheets, I guess we do need upgrades on defenders. 

Reckon we'll get this done now and he'll sign. 

wish we would spend a little more money further up the field and focus on creativity. i'm all for a solid defence, but only so many cbs you can be until you start focusing on how we're going to score goals instead of trying to concede less. 

We don't need another centre back, it's the one position we are strong in so this would be daft.

Midfield, wingers and wing backs...thats what we really need.

We certainly don't need him right now. But when you look closely both our CBs are 30 plus and Dave is technically a right back. 

Virgil is someone I think who is class and I thought we should have signed him last year when we were faffing chasing Koulibaly. 

I do worry for Andreas in all this, but we have to be deliberate about his development. With 3 roles available and 2 matches a week he really should be playing close to a match a week anyway. Now for me that means he plays every cup match and most of the CL group stages. If we can do that he'll have a chance to show his worth. 

The person who this really would put out is Zouma. 

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by Spiller86

I don't class Dave as left back or a right back. He's now a CB and has proven for a while that's where he is best utilised. We have Cahill and Luis who still have 2/3 seasons at the top while we have one of the brightest young CB in Europe in Christensen...on top of that we have Zouma who's out on loan who could recapture his highly impressive form we all know he is capable of plus Rudiger who we just spent 30 odd million on. It's simply not a priority for me.

I'm not thinking 2 or 3 years down the line, I'm focused on this season and what we need to be successful domestically and in Europe....thats not another CB because we don't have enough space to fit them all in.

52 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

We could always loan Rudiger to Vitesse.

This option pleases me.

Make it happen!

19 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

We certainly don't need him right now. But when you look closely both our CBs are 30 plus and Dave is technically a right back. 

Virgil is someone I think who is class and I thought we should have signed him last year when we were faffing chasing Koulibaly. 

I do worry for Andreas in all this, but we have to be deliberate about his development. With 3 roles available and 2 matches a week he really should be playing close to a match a week anyway. Now for me that means he plays every cup match and most of the CL group stages. If we can do that he'll have a chance to show his worth. 

Quotes from his dad say Conte thinks he's even better live than on TV. I don't think he's going anywhere.

CB: Gaz, Luiz, VVD, Andreas, Dave, Rudiger, Tomori

WB: Moses, Alonso, Dave, Rudiger, Tomori

That situtation is workable even though we're light on true WBs. Pedro can play there in a pinch but I wasn't so impressed witb him there last season. Wish Kenedy hadn't taken a nose dive since his first start, we'd be set up pretty well if he could pull his weight.

 

RCB: Dave, Gaz, Rudiger

CB: Luiz, Andreas, VVD

LCB: VVD, Dave, Andreas

Hard to leave out the captain and it won't happen but we could make it work. Especially if Dave or Rudi can step up and fill in at WB. 

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by TheChelseaBlues

If we're willing to spend £60m on a position we don't really need reinforcing, why not on a position e.g Wingback or Midfielder where we do? 

Can see Christensen being sold in all honesty he'll want to be playing regular after being a starter in his last couple of seasons and it doesn't look as though Conte is prepared to risk it.

2 hours ago, dan_cfc said:

Can see Christensen being sold in all honesty he'll want to be playing regular after being a starter in his last couple of seasons and it doesn't look as though Conte is prepared to risk it.

I don't know, this says otherwise? 

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2017/8/7/16105822/sten-christensen-conte-told-emelano-that-a-christensen-is-even-better

Don't forget Baba Rahman should be fit around October time...

50 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

Don't forget Baba Rahman should be fit around October time...

Even when deemed fit after ACL it will take him a while to get into gear.

I cannot see who goes out of the starting line up if we buy this guy, and there is no way he comes without walking into a team.  All three at the back deserve to keep their spot.  Moses also deserves his spot, so couldn't just move Dave there.

If we really want him then we should offer them what they want with Christensen on loan, they get money to reinvest and a good centre back to cover them for a year.

Though I think we have enough cover at CB and we should be investing in players at wing back and midfield. It looks like to me that we could end up with Danny Drinkwater and wing back cover who's not Alex Sandro at the end of this window.

Who knows if that will disappoint Conte but apparently its him who wants Drinkwater, it may disappoint some fans but Drinkwater will be Chalobah cover. It's just do we need to spend that much money on that sort of cover when we have youth. Personally I think we should use our youth as depth and go all out on 2 quality world class targets.

 

Edited August 8, 20178 yr by Sheva

3 minutes ago, Sheva said:

If we really want him then we should offer them what they want with Christensen on loan, they get money to reinvest and a good centre back to cover them for a year.

Exactly this, win - win for all party's. This way we have 5 quality options for the 3 spots, and Christensen gaining enough experience to walk into our starting line up when Cahill steps back from the first team. 

Jim White on Talksh*te...no bids on the table for VVD...