56 minutes ago, Stim said:

West Ham gonna sign Hernandez. Which is annoying, as he will score against us in another bizarre way like kicking the ball into his own face.

Whilst being offside of course !!

2 hours ago, dkw said:

WiFi can't kill anything as it's a form of non-ionising radiation, same as light, radio etc. So I'm sorry but thats just wrong.

They don't drop down dead the problem is they cannot navigate properly and so don't make it back to the hive.

I also spoke to a Pigeon fancier / racer at work and he said Wi-Fi was buggering up the birds navigation system and they were losing more and more and he said the navigation system was the same as bees. 

Just now, Strider6003 said:

They don't drop down dead the problem is they cannot navigate properly and so don't make it back to the hive.

I also spoke to a Pigeon fancier / racer at work and he said Wi-Fi was buggering up the birds navigation system and they were losing more and more and he said the navigation system was the same as bees. 

I can't believe that's true at all, birds use the earths magnetic field to navigate, if anything will interfere with a bird's navigation it will be some kind of generated EMF or radio waves, perhaps overhead power lines though even they are grounded and carry  a low voltage so won't really create an emf. WiFi doesn't create any field or interfere with anything other than something using the exact same frequency which would be unlikely. Mobile phone signals may cause a problem but I'm not sure how much more than say an am radio signal, though mobile gone antennas are probably stronger than radio ones.

Birds use several cues to navigate long-distance, one of them being magnetic as dkw said, but none of them can be disrupted by WiFi. In any case, they mostly migrate pretty far up in the sky. Migratory patterns haven't perceptibly and significantly changed in the last 20 years, and no correlation with any disruption of this kind is apparent.

But do read up, don't believe me!

One big myth that has really gained popularity around the world in the last decade is that worldwide house sparrow declines were due to mobile phone towers. There is no evidence whatsoever but the myth continues. People, even in small rural villages, love to believe this. The hypothesis which has support is the simplest one; most modern buildings do not have safe nesting areas and food sources have decreased. The important thing is that until we find something to be true, it remains nothing more than a viable or not so viable hypothesis. The pigeon fanciers beliefs are nothing more than his speculative opinion unless he backs them up.

Sorry :)

I also feel that it is really important to look for scientific evidence (or any evidence at all) before believing something (however psychologically helpful it may seem in the short-term). The long-term consequences, financial in this case, can be quite severe.

Can't wait for the season to start.

3 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

I've used many things including putting aluminium foil up on the walls and sleeping under metallic fibre blankets. I have also invested in testing technologies - tri-field meters - although now there is just so much energy everywhere.

It is actually one of the factors killing the bees. I told a friend who is a beekeeper and he rubbished this. A week later he comes back from his local meeting and apologises saying I am correct Wi-Fi and electro-magnetic fields are killing the bees.

Better call Saul...

 

soz, couldn't resist it :)

2 hours ago, Stim said:

West Ham gonna sign Hernandez. Which is annoying, as he will score against us in another bizarre way like kicking the ball into his own face.

From an offside position after both Luiz and Cahill slip on banana skins to give him the space, it hits the crossbar bounces on the line but a glitch in the goal line technology causes it to say that its over the line.

Next they will sign Fletcher and Naismith. 

And that's not including Salah at Liverpool he always like to score against us at Basel.

Enjoying the slightly off topic science and nature on this thread.

Very enlightening 

1 hour ago, ashwin said:

 

I also feel that it is really important to look for scientific evidence (or any evidence at all) before believing something (however psychologically helpful it may seem in the short-term). The long-term consequences, financial in this case, can be quite severe.

Can't wait for the season to start.

There is evidence yet governments do not want to admit it - claims for compensation no doubt- a scientist (physicist) studying effects of overhead power pylon effects in a high cancer cluster area in the South West. They tested it on the minute growth rate of trees and found the trees grew more slowly close to the power lines and other things too, like if a certain planets movement was blocked by a meteor this would also impact some trees growth rate too.

I got his book and it was how I worked out I had a problem with magnetic fields before Wi-Fi came along.

Re the sparrows I suspect this was cable being laid up peoples paths as Sparrows used to nest in bushes, cant say for sure yet would expect this. 

 

Like David Kelly, Princess Di and Robin Cook the PTB decide certain things are just too dangerous to share, notice quietly the amalgam fillings are being phased out, I was at a health lecture over ten years ago when another physicist stood up and said it was not true that the mercury in amalgam fillings stayed bound and inert.

Just like in World War I we are still treated as 'Canon Fodder' with the smokescreen of the political left and right just as long as we pay our taxes 

 

Awesome ornithological discussion going on here, truly. 

I read on redcafe City fans have been told the only way for them to watch the preseason match against United is by watching it on MUTV. Faaaaantastic

 

14 hours ago, Stim said:

West Ham gonna sign Hernandez. Which is annoying, as he will score against us in another bizarre way like kicking the ball into his own face.

Not looking forward to playing Spammers next season as he's certain to score and Andy Carrol will no doubt get off the treatment table for that game and notch one too.

Football vs NFL: a size comparison.

12 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

There is evidence yet governments do not want to admit it

And there you lose any credibility and just come across as one of those conspiracy nutters.  

I suppose the Oil companies have bought up the patent for making cars run on water and are suppressing that, are they?

Is it true that there is a cure for all cancers but the big pharmacological companies have suppressed that so they can keep making billions?  

9/11 was an inside job/there were no planes/Mossad/CIA/Insurance scam (pick one) right?

The whole world is run by three families and the Illuminati?

Plastic discs with a number painted on prevent you from suffering from um, er, something non-specific to do with Wifi?

12 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

There is evidence yet governments do not want to admit it - claims for compensation no doubt- a scientist (physicist) studying effects of overhead power pylon effects in a high cancer cluster area in the South West. They tested it on the minute growth rate of trees and found the trees grew more slowly close to the power lines and other things too, like if a certain planets movement was blocked by a meteor this would also impact some trees growth rate too.

I got his book and it was how I worked out I had a problem with magnetic fields before Wi-Fi came along.

Re the sparrows I suspect this was cable being laid up peoples paths as Sparrows used to nest in bushes, cant say for sure yet would expect this. 

 

Like David Kelly, Princess Di and Robin Cook the PTB decide certain things are just too dangerous to share, notice quietly the amalgam fillings are being phased out, I was at a health lecture over ten years ago when another physicist stood up and said it was not true that the mercury in amalgam fillings stayed bound and inert.

Just like in World War I we are still treated as 'Canon Fodder' with the smokescreen of the political left and right just as long as we pay our taxes 

 

I use a simple yet elegant app to count down to events I'm very very much looking forward to, such as the start to the new season. It's called Days Left Widget, if anyone experiences an increased desire for real football instead of off-season nonsense.

Edited July 21, 20178 yr by Valerie

15 hours ago, undertow said:

Better call Saul...

 

soz, couldn't resist it :)

I was about to comment the exact same thing.  I thought it was an ailment the creators had made up as part of the show, but obviously not.

The way Arsenal players celebrated after beating Bayern on penalty and winning the 'friendly' trophy, it's almost like they won the double, even Cech got embarrassed. I reckon this is the highlight of their 17-18 season. They are offering Ozil 280k a week, that's a player no other big teams attempting to sign.

17 hours ago, undertow said:

Better call Saul...

 

soz, couldn't resist it :)

Who is Saul, I vaguely recall a biblical reference.......

1 minute ago, Strider6003 said:

Who is Saul, I vaguely recall a biblical reference.......

Read up about Chuck McGill.  He's a fictional character, but has pretty much the same thing as you.  He ends up wearing tin foil and lining his entire home with it until he feels he has eradicated all electromagnetic fields from his home.  The creators basically say it's not a thing, and that it's all in his head.  But then, who is to say it isn't.  Good luck hopefully you find the solution you are looking for.

11 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

 

Cech looks more like Prince William every day 

2 hours ago, Fendieta said:

Read up about Chuck McGill.  He's a fictional character, but has pretty much the same thing as you.  He ends up wearing tin foil and lining his entire home with it until he feels he has eradicated all electromagnetic fields from his home.  The creators basically say it's not a thing, and that it's all in his head.  But then, who is to say it isn't.  Good luck hopefully you find the solution you are looking for.

Thanks, so far the solutions work though depending where I am I might need more than one.

One thing I have noticed is if I use too many protective devices it causes the opposite effect and my head bones get pressure as the injuries try and heal. 

My ex used to find it amusing and then she came to me when she thought she was dying of agina, "will you look after the kids," I asked what was happening and worked out it was the Wi-Fi head thing she was wearing when she was going jogging.

Her agina went and she came off the meds and now uses protective stuff they sell down under.

Edited July 21, 20178 yr by Strider6003

14 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

 

Big Pete has lifted CL against Bayern, to celebrate such a cheap trophy is just well.. so Arsenal

19 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

There is evidence yet governments do not want to admit it - claims for compensation no doubt- a scientist (physicist) studying effects of overhead power pylon effects in a high cancer cluster area in the South West. They tested it on the minute growth rate of trees and found the trees grew more slowly close to the power lines and other things too, like if a certain planets movement was blocked by a meteor this would also impact some trees growth rate too.

I got his book and it was how I worked out I had a problem with magnetic fields before Wi-Fi came along.

Re the sparrows I suspect this was cable being laid up peoples paths as Sparrows used to nest in bushes, cant say for sure yet would expect this. 

 

Like David Kelly, Princess Di and Robin Cook the PTB decide certain things are just too dangerous to share, notice quietly the amalgam fillings are being phased out, I was at a health lecture over ten years ago when another physicist stood up and said it was not true that the mercury in amalgam fillings stayed bound and inert.

Just like in World War I we are still treated as 'Canon Fodder' with the smokescreen of the political left and right just as long as we pay our taxes 

 

I'm sorry but I haven't read anything about this radiation via wifi's effect on cells at all. The growth rate of the nearby trees can be due to a lot of factors.

I won't belittle you or anything, just that I have't come across scientific articles and journals that prove this.

1 minute ago, Deino said:

I'm sorry but I haven't read anything about this radiation via wifi's effect on cells at all. The growth rate of the nearby trees can be due to a lot of factors.

I won't belittle you or anything, just that I have't come across scientific articles and journals that prove this.

Agree that is why scentists would need training and were also able to determine the link with planetary movement, we are referring to minute movements.

I searched on the net for one of the contributors in the book ( Ross Adey) and you can see from this exchange in 2002 it was highly controversial:

http://emrpolicy.org/science/forum/adey_jostes_nas_panel.pdf

There is another chap too, ex- British military who is in disgust about some of the technology being used today commercially, he says it was used in the cold war as a weapon:

http://geopathology-za.wikidot.com/barrie-trower

I know three other people in my circle I guess of about 200 that has a problem that's about 2%, we officially use mathematical bell curves to determine what is normal and I am pretty sure 2% would be high.

Different technologies have given me migraines, angina, aching joins and swelling in the back over time, it makes me wonder how many have others have been misdiagnosed.

 

6 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

Who is Saul, I vaguely recall a biblical reference.......

Saul Goodman, a.k.a. Jimmy McGill.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3032476/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/

And you're on the wrong track, there's nothing biblical about what I say or do at all ;)

Edited July 21, 20178 yr by undertow

edit: oops

Edited July 21, 20178 yr by undertow