He has no excuse not to sign now. I could see his point before xmas when Sarri wasn’t playing him but he’s alienating himself from the fans by not signing an extension especially when Frank has confirmed that he wants him to stat. The least he can do is to confirm that he’s not going to sign and the club can make a decision. £45m being quoted if true is not a bad amount of money for an 18 year old who has 1 yr left in his contract.

If Odoi stays, he'll be the new Hazard here.

If he leaves it will probably be the most bitter departure from Chelsea in as long as I can remember, Chelsea have done everything for Odoi and also, hes grabbed the opportunities hes had by performing but the club isnt penny pinching with the deal being offered to him.

I'd hope at 18 it wasnt all about money, nor should we have to sell the idea of playing for Chelsea to him but its clear as day he'll be a starter when hes fit and that he's going to be a millionaire many times over with a good chance of success at Chelsea in the coming years.

Bayern is a bit like going to PSG or Celtic, sure you'll win everything for years to come but theres no challenge for 95% of the games you play every week.

 

Everyone is saying this will be done. I have faith it will be. We all know Marina is a very tough negotiator and Callum has all the leverage so i imagine both are trying to get a good deal out of the other. 

While I could understand his desire to move to Bayern back in January, I think with the transfer ban, Lampard and Morris now part of the set up and a decent offer on the table (apparently) it would surprise me if he still wanted to leave as much as back then.

The major problems are Bayern are still sniffing around and his brother being his agent and already helping Bayern to sign one of our youngsters.

I'd be shocked if Bayern wasn't constantly in his brother's ear making them all sorts of promises if they can get the deal done.

Losing CHO would be bad, but under these circumstances and after paying for his surgery and rehabilitating him back to near fitness would make this even worse.

If he won't sign, then we should either sell him now, or include the cost of his rehabilitation into any future deal.

It would be awful to put all these years of development into him, all the cost of helping him back from his injury, only to lose him on a free.

1 minute ago, Zeta said:

If he won't sign, then we should either sell him now, or include the cost of his rehabilitation into any future deal.

It would be awful to put all these years of development into him, all the cost of helping him back from his injury, only to lose him on a free.

Don't really think it's worth it now all things considered.

Any fee we get for him will unlikely bag us a quality replacement anyway so we may aswell keep him and see how it plays out.

Every day that he doesn't sign is a day closer to a Bayern move.  

I've never gotten the feeling that he has any great affection or loyalty to Chelsea.  And I don't know that he even cares about being a Chelsea legend, or becoming the new Hazard.  

He could sign and end the speculation which has become a distraction for him and for the club.  The blatant tapping up from Bayern is disrespectful, and I think it is being fueled by BHO who clearly has a relationship with them.  

Frank said he wanted players who were committed to Chelsea.  Every day CHO doesn't sign is a lack of that commitment.  If it's about playing time, he'll get more of it at Chelsea under the ban and Frank than at Bayern.  So we don't know what the real issue is, except that it's probably about money.  When pro athletes say it's not about the money, when they say it's about respect or play time, it's almost always about the money.

4 hours ago, 2211 said:

While I could understand his desire to move to Bayern back in January, I think with the transfer ban, Lampard and Morris now part of the set up and a decent offer on the table (apparently) it would surprise me if he still wanted to leave as much as back then.

The major problems are Bayern are still sniffing around and his brother being his agent and already helping Bayern to sign one of our youngsters.

I'd be shocked if Bayern wasn't constantly in his brother's ear making them all sorts of promises if they can get the deal done.

Losing CHO would be bad, but under these circumstances and after paying for his surgery and rehabilitating him back to near fitness would make this even worse.

 

29 minutes ago, Zeta said:

If he won't sign, then we should either sell him now, or include the cost of his rehabilitation into any future deal.

It would be awful to put all these years of development into him, all the cost of helping him back from his injury, only to lose him on a free.

Cripes, how much do you guys think surgery costs?  Maybe it's different over in the UK, but in the US if you were to just pay straight out of pocket for a surgery like that, you'd be looking in the ballpark of a few hundred thousand dollars - a grand amount to an everyday person, but peanuts to football clubs like Chelsea.  I wouldn't use that at all in this argument.

22 minutes ago, Boston Blue said:

Every day that he doesn't sign is a day closer to a Bayern move.  

I've never gotten the feeling that he has any great affection or loyalty to Chelsea.  And I don't know that he even cares about being a Chelsea legend, or becoming the new Hazard.  

He could sign and end the speculation which has become a distraction for him and for the club.  The blatant tapping up from Bayern is disrespectful, and I think it is being fueled by BHO who clearly has a relationship with them.  

Frank said he wanted players who were committed to Chelsea.  Every day CHO doesn't sign is a lack of that commitment.  If it's about playing time, he'll get more of it at Chelsea under the ban and Frank than at Bayern.  So we don't know what the real issue is, except that it's probably about money.  When pro athletes say it's not about the money, when they say it's about respect or play time, it's almost always about the money.

You mean we don't know what's going on. For all we know contract talks could be in an advanced stage. People get upset with their own speculations. Why don't we wait until we get a statement from the club or player, then get upset or rejoice, dependent on the outcome. Save up the energy!

1 hour ago, Boston Blue said:

I've never gotten the feeling that he has any great affection or loyalty to Chelsea.  And I don't know that he even cares about being a Chelsea legend, or becoming the new Hazard.  

Did you ever consider how much pressure that puts on a young 18 year olds shoulders? Maybe he’s not ready for that?

1 hour ago, mwblue10 said:

Cripes, how much do you guys think surgery costs?  Maybe it's different over in the UK, but in the US if you were to just pay straight out of pocket for a surgery like that, you'd be looking in the ballpark of a few hundred thousand dollars - a grand amount to an everyday person, but peanuts to football clubs like Chelsea.  I wouldn't use that at all in this argument.

We live in a civilised society over here in the UK, we don’t use life saving/changing moments in the most vulnerable people as a way to make big bucks. We’ve also successfully adopted the metric system, do keep up 

54 minutes ago, Valerie said:

You mean we don't know what's going on. For all we know contract talks could be in an advanced stage. People get upset with their own speculations. Why don't we wait until we get a statement from the club or player, then get upset or rejoice, dependent on the outcome. Save up the energy!

Stop being rational, there’s no place for that here! PANIC!!!!

2 hours ago, mwblue10 said:

 

Cripes, how much do you guys think surgery costs?  Maybe it's different over in the UK, but in the US if you were to just pay straight out of pocket for a surgery like that, you'd be looking in the ballpark of a few hundred thousand dollars - a grand amount to an everyday person, but peanuts to football clubs like Chelsea.  I wouldn't use that at all in this argument.

Its not just the cost of surgery but the money spent during rehabilitation. Flown out to the best physician in the world for surgery, months of wages for the player, staff dedicated to getting him back on his feet. I'd ballpark a figure in the millions for this alone.

2 hours ago, Boston Blue said:

Every day that he doesn't sign is a day closer to a Bayern move.  

I've never gotten the feeling that he has any great affection or loyalty to Chelsea.  And I don't know that he even cares about being a Chelsea legend, or becoming the new Hazard.  

He could sign and end the speculation which has become a distraction for him and for the club.  The blatant tapping up from Bayern is disrespectful, and I think it is being fueled by BHO who clearly has a relationship with them.  

Frank said he wanted players who were committed to Chelsea.  Every day CHO doesn't sign is a lack of that commitment.  If it's about playing time, he'll get more of it at Chelsea under the ban and Frank than at Bayern.  So we don't know what the real issue is, except that it's probably about money.  When pro athletes say it's not about the money, when they say it's about respect or play time, it's almost always about the money.

Highly doubt he expects more than the £100k a week we're rumoured to be offering him.

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Its not just the cost of surgery but the money spent during rehabilitation. Flown out to the best physician in the world for surgery, months of wages for the player, staff dedicated to getting him back on his feet. I'd ballpark a figure in the millions for this alone.

But really, the only additional cost added here is the surgery itself and the surgeon.  He was getting paid during this time regardless of an injury, and the staff that have been in charge of his rehab are already employees of the club, so the cost of their role, the cost of the technology they use, the cost of their time - it's not a variable cost, just like his wages during this time.

1 hour ago, Munkworth said:

Did you ever consider how much pressure that puts on a young 18 year olds shoulders? Maybe he’s not ready for that?

 

 Maybe it's not in his nature, but there just aren't a lot of comments, posts, or actions that show any passion for Chelsea, a club he has grown up at.  He didn't even mention Chelsea in his Player's Tribune piece.

And even if there were pressure on him, would it be any more than the pressure of making your England debut?  Or trying to get a place in the starting XI over Pedro or Willian?  Or actually submitting a transfer request and having to stay after it was rejected?

As someone who has no insight into transfer negotiations, how the club & CHO negotiate, what it all entails and how involved contracts can be I’m gonna say... sod it, sell him. I think he’s going to see how much he plays this season and if it’s every game and he wins us the CL he’ll go Madrid on a free. If it’s hardly anything he’ll go to Bayern on a free. Whatever happens, he won’t be signing a contract. 

Might be OTT with that first example but that’s how rational I’m feeling about this whole thing. 

He should think carefully, look what happened to Solanke. Went for more wages thought he was going to get more game time at Liverpool!!  Ended up at Bournemouth and still not first choice. 

2 hours ago, Valerie said:

You mean we don't know what's going on. For all we know contract talks could be in an advanced stage. People get upset with their own speculations. Why don't we wait until we get a statement from the club or player, then get upset or rejoice, dependent on the outcome. Save up the energy!

This is a simple contract for an 18 year old footballer, not some complex multi billion pound trade deal.  If he has Chelsea in his heart? it would have been done and dusted in no time, as i bet it was for Ruben and Mason.

26 minutes ago, Dixons said:

This is a simple contract for an 18 year old footballer, not some complex multi billion pound trade deal.  If he has Chelsea in his heart? it would have been done and dusted in no time, as i bet it was for Ruben and Mason.

All that knowledge of the club's business and mindreading could get you a job writing for a tabloid.

4 hours ago, Argo said:

Don't really think it's worth it now all things considered.

Any fee we get for him will unlikely bag us a quality replacement anyway so we may aswell keep him and see how it plays out.

I agree, I wouldn’t be surprised if nothing happens before the end of the window.

CHO will then probably see how the season plays out with game time etc.., and Chelsea will refuse to sell this window and use the next few months to convince him to stay.

As long as we don’t sell this window then it could all work out OK - it just might take a bit of time.

Personally I can’t see any point of selling him in this window.

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27 minutes ago, Valerie said:

All that knowledge of the club's business and mindreading could get you a job writing for a tabloid.

You dont need inside info to know a simple contract is just that! The only way CHO is looking good with this, is if they haven't even started talks yet, which is highly improbable. 

1 hour ago, Valerie said:

All that knowledge of the club's business and mindreading could get you a job writing for a tabloid.

There is only one other option...

It doesn't trigger me as much the possibility that he simply doesn't care much about his parent club and would want to leave. That happens, it's life.

What triggers me more is the possibility that he would prefer Bayern over Chelsea as a Chelsea youngster, because that's the team that Chelsea beat to win the Champions League, that's a big part of the modern Chelsea lore so to speak. It was them, those guys, vs us, at their ground. That should mean something to a kid that started in Chelsea, IMO. It would mean to me if I were in that position.

Also, why would you choose to spend the rest of your career ( or lets say at least 5 years ) in Munich over London in general? What is so attractive there, pardon me if I'm being ignorant...

Look at some of the most known wonder kids in the last years, Pogba was one of them, wanted more game time and then left for Italy, only to come back to the Premier league! Heck, even Pulisic that was in a position like CHO is, joined the Premier league! Who can guarantee that Sancho will stay in Dortmund his whole career anyway? 
The career path of being in Chelsea ---> Real Madrid with a possibility of becoming a legend looks far better than going to Bayern and becoming a new Ribery that's not exciting at all!

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

What triggers me more is the possibility that he would prefer Bayern over Chelsea as a Chelsea youngster, because that's the team that Chelsea beat to win the Champions League, that's a big part of the modern Chelsea lore so to speak. It was them, those guys, vs us, at their ground. That should mean something to a kid that started in Chelsea, IMO. It would mean to me if I were in that position.

 

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CHO just needs to nut up, sign his deal and be the next of a new generation of CFC players (along with RLC, Mount, Pulisic) or put in another formal transfer request.  The games these professionals play are f**king childish!

9 hours ago, Dixons said:

You dont need inside info to know a simple contract is just that! The only way CHO is looking good with this, is if they haven't even started talks yet, which is highly improbable. 

Well, you know it all.

I think we need to get a grip, its ok for a youngster to take time and evaluate his options that's his right. Sarri screwed up by not playing him for 6 months and now its a big decision for the lad. As a club by investing into him we have a clear selfish motive its not a charity just as he needs to be selfish about his carrier.  

This next contract and 3-4 years will define his career whether he ends up like a wonderkid like Pato who never quite fulfilled his potential or a sterling. For all the talk of Bayern we have been guilty of this aswell and Bayern owe us nothing. We did steal Sturrdige from City in a very similar scenario.

I think given that there has been literally no chatter in the media about CHO NOT signing i would expect its a matter of days before he signs and if not the club will know either ways. In all probability the club would have set a deadline for him post which most will become clear.