20 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

Once again thats not what im talking about. you made up a false statement to go with your agenda.

 

I would sell Kovacic as well since we have Barkley and Gallagher on loans and i feel they can offer pretty much the same as Kovacic.

 

Damn forgot about Barkley. Would be pretty handy to have him now. 

1 hour ago, mwblue10 said:

Its easy to nitpick and pull out this one clip out of context, but Jesus Christ look at this twat. Just walks around, no urgency. Embarrassing. He needs to play better for sure, but I’d be content with him just trying harder to start.

Damn, if Ziyech is going to be like that in big games I don’t think he should be starting. We know Kovacic is better than that usually, abit strange he was being lazy and not arsed. Needs dropping.

2 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Damn, if Ziyech is going to be like that in big games I don’t think he should be starting. We know Kovacic is better than that usually, abit strange he was being lazy and not arsed. Needs dropping.

Yeah Ziyech was unimpressive as well but I think he played while not fully fit.

This is the kind of warning sign see when a manager is under pressure, why players stop trying? I don't buy fatigue, he's been rotated through the week, and that was like 20 minutes into the game.

20 hours ago, jack_super_class said:

Yeah because Jorginho was so good good agains't West Ham wasn't he.

Is that the best you've got? You can make any player sound good, like this.

Bakayako was a key part to helping Monaco win the league and getting to a champions league semi final, he then got a cap for France which isn't an easy thing to do with the abundance of good midfielders they have.

Drinkwater was great and key reason to helping Leicester win the league in 2016, he then also god called up to the England squad.

BOTH players weren't good enough, neither is Jorginho. He could move this window if we got a decent offer, but surprise surprise nobody wants him.

 

You can't make Kovacic to sound like this though lmao if you think that Bakayoko and Drinkwater had a key role in their teams, Bakayoko made 2 tackles per game in Ligue 1 and Conte thought he could replace Matic that is a better player that can protect the ball and that can actually pass it.

Look at how Sarri used Jorginho in that one season, every buildup went through him and it worked, if you want possession football you shouldn't put Kante to organize your team since he has never done that, it's no surprise that he can give away 15 balls and slip and what not... Say whatever you want but when we had a system it gave us the results, now Lampard doesn't have a system anymore, last season he still used Jorginho and it worked, now we depend on Chilwell and James to put up a cross.

Jorginho was by all means good in the previous 2 seasons, you can't say that about Kante and Kovacic, at all.

5 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

You can't make Kovacic to sound like this though lmao if you think that Bakayoko and Drinkwater had a key role in their teams, Bakayoko made 2 tackles per game in Ligue 1 and Conte thought he could replace Matic that is a better player that can protect the ball and that can actually pass it.

Look at how Sarri used Jorginho in that one season, every buildup went through him and it worked, if you want possession football you shouldn't put Kante to organize your team since he has never done that, it's no surprise that he can give away 15 balls and slip and what not... Say whatever you want but when we had a system it gave us the results, now Lampard doesn't have a system anymore, last season he still used Jorginho and it worked, now we depend on Chilwell and James to put up a cross.

Jorginho was by all means good in the previous 2 seasons, you can't say that about Kante and Kovacic, at all.

If you asked most Chelsea fans to keep one of Kovacic or Jorginho im certain most would rather keep Kovacic, Kovacic was voted player of the year by the fans last season. Why didnt Jorginho win it? Why does Lampard not play Jorginho but still play Kovacic?. You over rate Jorginho way too much, we would easily sell him but no one wants him. Kante has been good this season though, Jorginho hasnt been, so whats your excuse?.

You dont have to have a player like Jorginho infront of your back 4 to do well, Liverpool and City both won the league playing more defensive players in Fabinho and Fernandinho infront of the back four.

23 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

If you asked most Chelsea fans to keep one of Kovacic or Jorginho im certain most would rather keep Kovacic, Kovacic was voted player of the year by the fans last season. Why didnt Jorginho win it? Why does Lampard not play Jorginho but still play Kovacic?. You over rate Jorginho way too much, we would easily sell him but no one wants him. Kante has been good this season though, Jorginho hasnt been, so whats your excuse?.

You dont have to have a player like Jorginho infront of your back 4 to do well, Liverpool and City both won the league playing more defensive players in Fabinho and Fernandinho infront of the back four.

It takes some severe mental gymnatics to want Jorginho to stay but Kovacic gone. Kovacic who is younger, still a good squad player, experienced and actually covers ground. Isn't Jorginho 30 now? Pretty sure if both of them were up for sale, it's Kovacic who will attract the better offers. 

2 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

If you asked most Chelsea fans to keep one of Kovacic or Jorginho im certain most would rather keep Kovacic, Kovacic was voted player of the year by the fans last season. Why didnt Jorginho win it? Why does Lampard not play Jorginho but still play Kovacic?. You over rate Jorginho way too much, we would easily sell him but no one wants him. Kante has been good this season though, Jorginho hasnt been, so whats your excuse?.

You dont have to have a player like Jorginho infront of your back 4 to do well, Liverpool and City both won the league playing more defensive players in Fabinho and Fernandinho infront of the back four.

Good question, why did Lampard stop using Jorginho and as a result we don't have a system anymore?

Fact is Jorginho did his job on a high level for 2 seasons in a row, Kante and Kovacic didn't do that, Kante is just a shadow of himself and Kovacic had a poor first season, even as our POTY he's mostly coming off the bench and he isn't having a relevant role at all.

Why did we finish top 3 in Jorginho's first season under Sarri if he was involved in 37/38 games? If he was so bad how did we manage to get the result?

Why did we finish top4 if Jorginho was involved in 31/38 games last season? If he's so bad why did Lampard play him last season? Ah right, because he couldn't just take away such a player, too risky, I guess now he could do it and still get a result from it. But why are we worse now when he isn't playing that much anymore?

Like I said, you may think whatever you want but you can't prove that we were worse when we had a system because 2 seasons in a row we could get a result, now we can't even with a better squad.

Liverpool and Man City didn't win the league playing Bakayoko that can't pass the ball, you need to compare what is comparable, we won when we had Matic there, he can pass it.

Fabinho and Fernandinho can pass the ball, Kante can't do it, unless you get mindblown by a sideway pass, 0 through balls whole last season, erase the guy like Jorginho that had the most passes into the final third and be surprised that your attacks can only come by a cross from your full back.

People think that what happens on the pitch is just random and that a player profile doesn't matter, everyone can play anywhere right? Well sure, if they are good enough, but if they actually aren't, you suffer the consequences.
Great example is Pep, he played some players in different positions and it backfired a few times but a few other times it worked, now he played Sterling wide while he played the best player in the league up front and not surprisingly KDB destroyed us in less than 20 minutes.

Lampard destroyed his own system, only to accommodate Kante since he actually had a few games in a row without making any tackles at all at the start of the season, he also accommodated Mount since in a 4-2-3-1 it would be Havertz playing the AM and not Mount. So instead of continuing to rely on what gave him the results and building the team around his new players, he decided to just find the place for Kante and Mount. As a result Kovacic and Jorginho are irrelevant and Havertz has had a hard time out there. This is all true if you followed the team this season, at some point at the start of the season we played a 4-2-3-1 which gave us the best results last season and we won 4:0 vs Palace, in fact most of our best wins this season came when Jorginho started the game. All facts.

36 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

You can't make Kovacic to sound like this though lmao if you think that Bakayoko and Drinkwater had a key role in their teams, Bakayoko made 2 tackles per game in Ligue 1 and Conte thought he could replace Matic that is a better player that can protect the ball and that can actually pass it.

Look at how Sarri used Jorginho in that one season, every buildup went through him and it worked, if you want possession football you shouldn't put Kante to organize your team since he has never done that, it's no surprise that he can give away 15 balls and slip and what not... Say whatever you want but when we had a system it gave us the results, now Lampard doesn't have a system anymore, last season he still used Jorginho and it worked, now we depend on Chilwell and James to put up a cross.

Jorginho was by all means good in the previous 2 seasons, you can't say that about Kante and Kovacic, at all.

I am a big fan of Jorginho and believe he brings a lot to our squad, when he is in the starting lineup he offers us control of a game through possession especially when teams are looking to press us high up on the pitch. At times he can take an opposition's midfielder out of the game if they are looking to man mark Jorginho which allows some of our other attacking players more space to exploit, alongside his control he offers leadership and positional awareness. 

The problems with Jorginho are two fold firstly his high passing accuracy and secondly his defensive contribution on the transition which is arguably our biggest weakness defensively especially considering we've resolved our set-piece struggles from last season. His high passing accuracy (90%) is a problem because it shows that he is playing safe passes a lot of the time, this may give the team control but at the same time it shows he is naturally inclined to play a safe pass as opposed to a high risk high value method of distribution. As an example Fabregas had an 85% passing accuracy which is significantly lower then Jorginho, I am not saying Jorginho is as creative as Fabregas and therefore should attempt more but with our front line at times all that is required is a ball into the channels and we have the pace to get into space. The season Leicester won the league one of there biggest weapons was Drinkwater playing the ball into the channels for Vardy & Mahrez to chase. Our team is crying our for some creativity centrally, Jorginho has done that at times during his tenure with us & Tammy seems to be the one who has been on a similar wavelength but we need to see more of that but unfortunately I just don't think Jorginho is programmed like that.

With Kante and Kovacic they offer us more solidity defensively & when we play Ziyech we need to have Kova on that right side of midfield to offer cover to the RB as Ziyech has appeared defensively reluctant so far in his time with us. Based on Kova's last appearance if he is not offering us anything defensively then by all means Jorginho can play in the CDM role with Kante offering that protection on the right but unfortunately for Jorginho his competition is Kante and not Kova & there is only one winner in that.

1 minute ago, Imran_CFC said:

I am a big fan of Jorginho and believe he brings a lot to our squad, when he is in the starting lineup he offers us control of a game through possession especially when teams are looking to press us high up on the pitch. At times he can take an opposition's midfielder out of the game if they are looking to man mark Jorginho which allows some of our other attacking players more space to exploit, alongside his control he offers leadership and positional awareness. 

The problems with Jorginho are two fold firstly his high passing accuracy and secondly his defensive contribution on the transition which is arguably our biggest weakness defensively especially considering we've resolved our set-piece struggles from last season. His high passing accuracy (90%) is a problem because it shows that he is playing safe passes a lot of the time, this may give the team control but at the same time it shows he is naturally inclined to play a safe pass as opposed to a high risk high value method of distribution. As an example Fabregas had an 85% passing accuracy which is significantly lower then Jorginho, I am not saying Jorginho is as creative as Fabregas and therefore should attempt more but with our front line at times all that is required is a ball into the channels and we have the pace to get into space. The season Leicester won the league one of there biggest weapons was Drinkwater playing the ball into the channels for Vardy & Mahrez to chase. Our team is crying our for some creativity centrally, Jorginho has done that at times during his tenure with us & Tammy seems to be the one who has been on a similar wavelength but we need to see more of that but unfortunately I just don't think Jorginho is programmed like that.

With Kante and Kovacic they offer us more solidity defensively & when we play Ziyech we need to have Kova on that right side of midfield to offer cover to the RB as Ziyech has appeared defensively reluctant so far in his time with us. Based on Kova's last appearance if he is not offering us anything defensively then by all means Jorginho can play in the CDM role with Kante offering that protection on the right but unfortunately for Jorginho his competition is Kante and not Kova & there is only one winner in that.

I think that it's a myth that Kante and Kovacic offer more solid defense, last season I have seen them as a duo in the midfield and it didn't really work, now they have played together and once again it just didn't work out.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care who plays as long as we're winning, but I see why we aren't winning anymore, Lampard made his own job harder by trying to accommodate Kante when he actually had a good duo in Jorginho and Kovacic last season. What is Mount doing now essentially, the Kante's role from last season? You can clearly see that Lampard made them worse, not better.

5 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

I think that it's a myth that Kante and Kovacic offer more solid defense, last season I have seen them as a duo in the midfield and it didn't really work, now they have played together and once again it just didn't work out.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care who plays as long as we're winning, but I see why we aren't winning anymore, Lampard made his own job harder by trying to accommodate Kante when he actually had a good duo in Jorginho and Kovacic last season. What is Mount doing now essentially, the Kante's role from last season? You can clearly see that Lampard made them worse, not better.

Mount has maintained his role as the left sided Central Midfielder,its Kovacic/Kai who have taken up the Kante role from last year. With the exception of the City & Arsenal games Kante has been largely excellent throughout the season therefore I can't see how an argument can be made of transitioning Kante's role in the team. 

We lost to Everton due to a goalkeeping error, we conceded 3 goals against Arsenal largely irrelevant to the CDM & we conceded against Villa due to our CB being an idiot, Lampard wants his CDM to screen the CB's and so far this season Kante has done a sterling job at that.

15 minutes ago, Imran_CFC said:

Mount has maintained his role as the left sided Central Midfielder,its Kovacic/Kai who have taken up the Kante role from last year. With the exception of the City & Arsenal games Kante has been largely excellent throughout the season therefore I can't see how an argument can be made of transitioning Kante's role in the team. 

We lost to Everton due to a goalkeeping error, we conceded 3 goals against Arsenal largely irrelevant to the CDM & we conceded against Villa due to our CB being an idiot, Lampard wants his CDM to screen the CB's and so far this season Kante has done a sterling job at that.

But Mount is essentially now doing what Kante did last season, just on the left side. We won't win anything with Kante in that role, he loses too many balls in the midfield and he can't organize the transition well enough. 

Lampard had a system that worked, now he doesn't, you can try to find excuses for our loses but Kante didn't protect the backline there at all nor did he control the game, I'm not sold on him making a few tackles and a few interceptions per game, after all Jorginho was doing that as well last season but he's deemed as a bad defensive player.

Our POTY Kovacic is basically playing the same amount of minutes as Jorginho that is seen as a not-needed player, if that isn't a sign that there has been some serious mismanagement then I don't know what is. 

10 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

But Mount is essentially now doing what Kante did last season, just on the left side. We won't win anything with Kante in that role, he loses too many balls in the midfield and he can't organize the transition well enough. 

Lampard had a system that worked, now he doesn't, you can try to find excuses for our loses but Kante didn't protect the backline there at all nor did he control the game, I'm not sold on him making a few tackles and a few interceptions per game, after all Jorginho was doing that as well last season but he's deemed as a bad defensive player.

Our POTY Kovacic is basically playing the same amount of minutes as Jorginho that is seen as a not-needed player, if that isn't a sign that there has been some serious mismanagement then I don't know what is. 

I've highlighted the goals being conceded not as excuses but those were actual facts of how we conceded & had limited correlation to Kante being our CDM. I didn't state the third goal against City because that is clearly an error from Kante and he could certainly be pulled up on that but with the exception of 2 games Kante has been excellent throughout the season. In terms of Kante giving the ball away in midfield is a complete myth, the difference in pass completion between Kante this season and Jorginho last season is less then 1% and Jorginho gets dispossessed more regularly per match then Kante.

I understand the need to shake things up and possibly bringing in Jorginho and moving Kante in the advanced number 8 role but Kante playing the CDM role is not the biggest problem in the squad at the minute, the biggest problem we have in our team at the moment is a combination of players returning from injury and not being 100% (Chilwell, James, Ziyech, Pulisic) and players being down on confidence (Werner, Kovacic, Kai, Mount). 

1 hour ago, Imran_CFC said:

I've highlighted the goals being conceded not as excuses but those were actual facts of how we conceded & had limited correlation to Kante being our CDM. I didn't state the third goal against City because that is clearly an error from Kante and he could certainly be pulled up on that but with the exception of 2 games Kante has been excellent throughout the season. In terms of Kante giving the ball away in midfield is a complete myth, the difference in pass completion between Kante this season and Jorginho last season is less then 1% and Jorginho gets dispossessed more regularly per match then Kante.

I understand the need to shake things up and possibly bringing in Jorginho and moving Kante in the advanced number 8 role but Kante playing the CDM role is not the biggest problem in the squad at the minute, the biggest problem we have in our team at the moment is a combination of players returning from injury and not being 100% (Chilwell, James, Ziyech, Pulisic) and players being down on confidence (Werner, Kovacic, Kai, Mount). 

I don't see Kante being our new version of Matic, Fernandinho, Fabinho, sorry. Kante at the start of the season had a few games in a row without making any tackles at all, then Lampard changed his position and as time passes by we look more and more disorganized, it's not just a coincidence that most of our attacks finish with Chilwell putting up a cross.

For me he's just not that type of a player no matter how much you try to force it, his natural game comes from having a more free role where he can sometimes read the game and press forward and win the ball back, and he can't do that if he is to be more disciplined.

Even this season when he came on from the bench in his usual role, that is when he managed to make a few assists and to regain possession that led to us scoring, that's him in his natural role.

He's not organizing our play and that has been hurting us, everyone were so convinced that Jorginho is our problem even without any real measure point to it, now that Jorginho isn't playing we look worse, there is no denying that we have lost some common sense just because we all love Kante.

He spent the whole last season without making a single through ball, in fact so far after being involved in 17 games Kante is yet to make a single through ball, while Jorginho was at the top when it came down to passes into the final third, you really think that hasn't hurt us yet? Everyone is complaining how our midfield lacks the control, the creativity and so on... But that was the case already last season when Kante-Kovacic played together, they were often just doing the same thing, 1 of them with very low movement off the ball and whoever had the ball tried to make a run before passing it to the sides, in fact both of them like to not be that much disciplined off the ball and both expect the other to cover the space that the other one left. 

Kante is now playing this role which he never before had in his whole career, and we're losing games without making any real progress. We look worse now than last season ago, despite having a better LB, Mendy and T.Silva. 

If the narrative was for around 2 seasons that everything was the fault of Jorginho, now that he isn't a key player anymore we must look at his replacement, which is in fact Kante in his new role.

Kante has played the most minutes for us in the PL, shouldn't we question and look his role a bit deeper then, because we are currently sitting at around 40% win rate. Did we ever have such a bad run in the previous 2 seasons?

He and Mount had made the most tackles for us so far, both also have made the most fouls as well, but is playing like this, retroactively really the style that can win us games? Against a decent team it simply doesn't seem to be working, most of the time.

Imagine if we didn't have T.Silva and Mendy, would we be confident that playing Kante as our DM is a viable solution when you consider that the only CB that can be a bit more secure with the ball would be in that scenario Christensen?

Last season after 17 games we concided 23 goals, this season with a much better backline, 19. Obviously some of the games this season we still had Kepa but the question remains, did we improve defensively by having Kante playing as the DM for real or is it just masked because of Mendy(most of the time), T.Silva and Chilwell which are all improvements from what we had last season? We can't really say that Kante  improved us when it comes down to set pieces, so part from that, which is mostly due to better training and better quality players, are we better defensively? 

But did we suffer in our transition, in our attack? I think that the last 5 games have showed that we have in fact become a worse team when it comes down to attacking and creating chances, sure we have scored more goals but most of those came down when exactly?

We scored 11 goals in our first 5 games, where Kante didn't play as the lone DM.
Then came the change, in the next 5 games we scored 9 goals, so a few less... 5 games more and we have scored 8 goals... We are now after 17 games so in those last 2 games we scored 2 goals, in order to keep up we would need to score in the next 3 games 6 goals just to keep up with the previous 5 games but if we are to look at the start of the season we would need to score 9 goals in the next 3 games if we are to equalize our tally from the start of the season, does it look like we have been playing like a 3 goal per game team?
So is there maybe a pattern, as Lampard put Kante in this new role, we have been scoring less and less goals as the matches went on?

 

 

I'm of course not blaming our results on Kante, but didn't Lampard make things worse by breaking down what actually used to give him the results? With better players, we have now less points in this stage than last season.

If Jorginho was playing, he would be pointed out as not doing his part good enough as that has been the narrative all along, but he hasn't been our key player this season at all, he was involved in 10 games out of 17 and out of those we have lost only 2, against Liverpool at the start of the season when Christensen got a red card, and against Arsenal when Jorginho came on in the second half when the result was already 2:0 for Arsenal.

So if we can always point out that Jorginho is somehow never good for us, despite all the evidence pointing to the exact opposite conclusion, how come we mustn't put in question this new role of Kante?

Still hold a grudge against him for taking player of the year away from Mount last season.

The history books having his name there, a mere ‘squad player’ right down to his essence, just doesn’t look right, especially next to the names of the last 20 years.

3 hours ago, Term_X said:

Still hold a grudge against him for taking player of the year away from Mount last season.

The history books having his name there, a mere ‘squad player’ right down to his essence, just doesn’t look right, especially next to the names of the last 20 years.

He didn't award it to himself.

3 hours ago, Term_X said:

Still hold a grudge against him for taking player of the year away from Mount last season.

The history books having his name there, a mere ‘squad player’ right down to his essence, just doesn’t look right, especially next to the names of the last 20 years.

I don't see the issue, Willian won it in that horrible Mourinho 3rd season. 

He was our most consistent performer of last season, he did the midfield duties very well and for me he deserved it. Mount had a lot of dry moments last season and I felt he was getting overplayed at times. Willian off and on, Pulisic absent for too much of it, Giroud and Tammy only had certain periods but I would say Kova was the most consistent out of any of our players last season. 

18 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I don't see the issue, Willian won it in that horrible Mourinho 3rd season. 

He was our most consistent performer of last season, he did the midfield duties very well and for me he deserved it. Mount had a lot of dry moments last season and I felt he was getting overplayed at times. Willian off and on, Pulisic absent for too much of it, Giroud and Tammy only had certain periods but I would say Kova was the most consistent out of any of our players last season. 

He’s just not a guy who deserves his name forever on our history like that, Mount should have got it as he was the best of the youth (which defined the season) Kovavic was consistent but didn’t define what that season was all about, and Mount is an academy boy who broke ground better to have that name in stone than this average journey man squad player as part of Chelsea history. At least Willian (as much as he frustrated us) became a stalwart of sorts and earned stripes.

11 minutes ago, Term_X said:

He’s just not a guy who deserves his name forever on our history like that, Mount should have got it as he was the best of the youth (which defined the season) Kovavic was consistent but didn’t define what that season was all about, and Mount is an academy boy who broke ground better to have that name in stone than this average journey man squad player as part of Chelsea history. At least Willian (as much as he frustrated us) became a stalwart of sorts and earned stripes.

Kova got the majority of the supporters' votes. We can safely assume he didn't manipulate any voting machines, so holding a grudge against him is extremely silly.

Edited January 6, 20215 yr by Valerie

25 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Kova got the majority of the supporters' votes. We can safely assume he didn't manipulate any voting machines, so holding a grudge against him is extremely silly.

Well, however way you wish to word it...

Wish the supporters that voted considered what that particular season represented with the focus on the academy boys and relying on them, with Mount rising to the top of that pile and his name being the one to best ‘represent’ the campaign in the history books with something as coveted as POTY. Also, we took a lot of flack for Kovavic getting that award from other supporters (and rightfully so) as how the great have fallen; Hazard to Kovacic ffs. 

8 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Well, however way you wish to word it...

Wish the supporters that voted considered what that particular season represented with the focus on the academy boys and relying on them, with Mount rising to the top of that pile and his name being the one to best ‘represent’ the campaign in the history books with something as coveted as POTY. Also, we took a lot of flack for Kovavic getting that award from other supporters (and rightfully so) as how the great have fallen; Hazard to Kovacic ffs. 

I take your points about Mount's emergence symbolising the season, and noone could dispute that Kova is a drop-off after the brilliance of Hazard, but Kova was a worthy winner who earned the award with his contribution. He was pretty ordinary under Sarri but really stepped up last season. Like most of our squad he is in a bad run of form, and we need him to raise his game hugely in the weeks and months ahead to salvage our season.

How Gol15 sees Jorginho

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

How Gol15 sees Jorginho

If we had Pirlo here I know at least a few people that would treat him in the exact same way as they treat Jorginho

Many bashed Pulisic before he even stepped on the pitch with the blue shirt on, people were mad that Havertz "picked himself" and thus made problems for Lampard 

The player doesn't matter, just their feelings and their narrative that clearly has never been fact-checked 

I'm sorry I know it's wrong to laugh at people but sometimes I just wish that maybe some dust themselves off a bit and look in the mirror at least once a year before pointing fingers at someone else... 

I actually always thought that Pirlo would have been a failure had he joined us. I never thought he was a player for the Premier League, he was Serie A to a T. I actually feel the same way about Jorginho.

90 minutes

164 touches

97.3% passing accuracy

2 key passes

5/6 long balls completed

3/3 dribbles completed

6/9 ground duels won

1 clearance

2 interceptions

3 tackles

He's back. That shot was very close, I can only say it again, I hope he takes more shots...