2 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Yet neither are willing to pay a single euro for Kepa and have only considered him as a cheap last minute loan option after both losing their number 1's too injury.

Think that's a bit different than the people here thinking Kepa should be our number 1.   

If Madrid or Bayern really wanted Kepa they'd have moved for him before they both ended up with no keeper days before the season starts or they'd actually pay a fee for him.

Fair point. But they still won't want a lettuce of a goalie in goal because it's a free offer, and not free considering even with a loan they'll cover wages. 

Getting rid of so many of these bang average footballers who aren't up to scratch in one transfer window is pretty special, fair play. Just Ziyech and Lukaku to go. 

8 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Fair point. But they still won't want a lettuce of a goalie in goal because it's a free offer, and not free considering even with a loan they'll cover wages. 

" Lettuce of a goalie"

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

6 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Getting rid of so many of these bang average footballers who aren't up to scratch in one transfer window is pretty special, fair play. Just Ziyech and Lukaku to go. 

Don't forget CHO is still on the books 

1 minute ago, General said:

Don't forget CHO is still on the books 

And Malang Sarr.

18 minutes ago, Valerie said:

And Malang Sarr.

And Raheem Sterling.

21 minutes ago, Valerie said:

And Malang Sarr.

Since we signed him, we've gone out and bought another 4 centre backs and promoted 2 more centre backs from the academy. 

Do you think Sarr's got the message yet LOL

What has been overlooked by many is that moving on many of the players for a fee is just part of the things that the club will be considering .If you can make enough to balance out the sum still remaining to be amortised is one bit of good news it’s the fact that moving forward the fact that there is no sum left to be amortised is even better news.

Look for instance at Havertz . The rough numbers look something like this cost £75 million on a 5 year deal Sold for £65 million. 3 years into his deal so book value of £30 million means a profit of £35 but in 23/24 &24/25 there won’t be any sum in respect of his fee saving £15 million in each of the years. 
 

So to Kepa. Still has £20 ish million which will be written off in 23/24 &24/25. Get £20 million a a minimum be it  now or before the start of 24/5amd thats another chunk off the annual amortised sum

Edited August 10, 20232 yr by terraloon

If Real Madrid come calling, given they are now desperate for a goalkeeper, we should move quickly to secure a deal and sell Kepa. We aren't challenging for major trophies this season and Kepa isn't good enough when we do get to that stage. Take the money now when it's on the table, play Sanchez and plan for a future, much better, keeper.

15 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

 

Lol... everyone wants our players for free. Even Madrid and Bayern become cheapsters.

11 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Since we signed him, we've gone out and bought another 4 centre backs and promoted 2 more centre backs from the academy. 

Do you think Sarr's got the message yet LOL

If I remember correctly, Sarr was viewed as a talent for the future when we bought him, to be developed on loan. In the end he didn't turn out the way we hoped. We have signed a number of promising players, we can expect quite a few will turn out like Sarr. Hopefully they will be sold with a profit in a couple of years. Perhaps 2, maybe even 3 or so, will turn out to be amazing players for us and silence the supporters who complain we never scout the young talents but instead buy them for a fortune from other clubs.

9 hours ago, terraloon said:

What has been overlooked by many is that moving on many of the players for a fee is just part of the things that the club will be considering .If you can make enough to balance out the sum still remaining to be amortised is one bit of good news it’s the fact that moving forward the fact that there is no sum left to be amortised is even better news.

Look for instance at Havertz . The rough numbers look something like this cost £75 million on a 5 year deal Sold for £65 million. 3 years into his deal so book value of £30 million means a profit of £35 but in 23/24 &24/25 there won’t be any sum in respect of his fee saving £15 million in each of the years. 
 

So to Kepa. Still has £20 ish million which will be written off in 23/24 &24/25. Get £20 million a a minimum be it  now or before the start of 24/5amd thats another chunk off the annual amortised sum

Yes, great post. The thing to remember is there is an FFP "cliff" coming in 2025/26 when spending will be hard-limited to just 70% of total revenue. Getting rid of the amortisation value for players like Kepa is an important step to remaining competitive in that period.

13 hours ago, General said:

Don't forget CHO is still on the books 

We're discussing dead wood, not generational talents...

With everything else going on today i reckon i can slip this one in under the radar 

If we move Kepa on to Bayern or RM, i would go for DDG. Now i know that he had a poor season last season and it may be a continuing decline. Or he may have got stale or had issues going on with his training regime, whatever. The fact is he has been a multiple POTY for Man Utd and trust me keepers rarely get POTY because its deemed the team have been sh*t if the keeper is the best player.

He is Spanish and familiar with working with Sanchez and should have no trouble in developing a rapport. He offers something different and at his age is unlikely to be a long term solution. At worst he would be a more than adequate back up, at best he may get his mojo back and be a major player. Okay so he isn't the most fluid with the ball at his feet but he also isn't the worst and actually has really good technique spraying the ball around when his confidence is up.

Judging DDG on last season isn't ideal either. I was going to say that he had Maguire and Lindelof in front of him, but actually i would only say Shaw and Casemiro could hold their heads up in that entire half of ther pitch. Wan Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Fred, McTominay, Fernandes, meh.

Here's the last sentence before waiting for the hammering. IMO the DDG of last season is still better then the best Kepa we have had since he joined. 

To the Kepa haters, just a genuine question! We let him go, who is playing in goal, Sanchez? And you’re happy with that?

23 minutes ago, Mod said:

To the Kepa haters, just a genuine question! We let him go, who is playing in goal, Sanchez? And you’re happy with that?

Sanchez wasn’t bought to sit on the bench though.  I reckon even if Kepa stays he will be under intense scrutiny, a few clangers and he is out of the side permanently. I’d rather get rid of Kepa,  let Sanchez play out this season and if he looks shaky go big on one of the prospects in the market. We can always loan / buy a cheap 2nd choice goalie with us only competing in the league and cups. Utd loaned Dubravka as 2nd choice from Newcastle & loaned out Henderson last season, and Arsenal paid £5m for Matt Turner from the MLS as Ramsdale’s understudy.

29 minutes ago, Mod said:

To the Kepa haters, just a genuine question! We let him go, who is playing in goal, Sanchez? And you’re happy with that?

Why does this word always get sprung about? I don't "hate" him, i just think he's not good enough for a team aiming to eventually wrestle the league back, especially from a league winning freak like Pep.

Regarding what to do now, unless we can somehow wrestle Maignan out of Milan in the next few weeks roll with Sanchez and a short term option (Navas should be an easy enough deal) then access next summer. Sanchez could surprise us, Navas could do a Silva but failing that we'll have a years worth of specific due dillengence done on our target ready to pounce, you never know maybe someone will have an Alisson 17/18 esque breakout season.

After watching him last weekend, we should put a bid into Chelmsford for Cech!

1 minute ago, ducavis said:

Sanchez wasn’t bought to sit on the bench though.  I reckon even if Kepa stays he will be under intense scrutiny, a few clangers and he is out of the side permanently. I’d rather get rid of Kepa,  let Sanchez play out this season and if he looks shaky go big on one of the prospects in the market. We can always loan / buy a cheap 2nd choice goalie with us only competing in the league and cups. Utd loaned Dubravka as 2nd choice from Newcastle & loaned out Henderson last season, and Arsenal paid £5m for Matt Turner from the MLS as Ramsdale’s understudy.

If Sanchez was bought to do anything other than play second fiddle we're in trouble. 

Just now, Argo said:

Why does this word always get sprung about? I don't "hate" him, i just think he's not good enough for a team aiming to eventually wrestle the league back, especially from a league winning freak like Pep.

While that is probably true for you Argo, many people do show 'hate'! I wasn't stirring the pot or anything, just a genuine question to those who want him out. Goalkeepers are sparse at the moment and when you look at the few teams interested in him, they are no tinpot clubs.

If he does go, what about Ortega from City? Every time he plays he looks the part of a modern keeper. Can't be that expensive also.

4 minutes ago, Sheva said:

If he does go, what about Ortega from City? Every time he plays he looks the part of a modern keeper. Can't be that expensive also.

Ortega will want to be No 1. There were rumours he wanted to leave at the back end of last season because of playing time, that is why Pep has been giving him mins to keep him sweet.

3 hours ago, Mod said:

To the Kepa haters, just a genuine question! We let him go, who is playing in goal, Sanchez? And you’re happy with

3 hours ago, Mod said:

To the Kepa haters, just a genuine question! We let him go, who is playing in goal, Sanchez? And you’re happy with that?

Yea can’t be any worst

4 hours ago, Mod said:

While that is probably true for you Argo, many people do show 'hate'! I wasn't stirring the pot or anything, just a genuine question to those who want him out. Goalkeepers are sparse at the moment and when you look at the few teams interested in him, they are no tinpot clubs.

Those two clubs want a stop gap on the cheap a loan deal they won’t pay £20 mill for him that’s how much they want him 

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

If Sanchez was bought to do anything other than play second fiddle we're in trouble. 

Why though?

Rob Sanchez was a top 10 PL goalie in his first two seasons. Arguably a top 5 in the second one.

Does that match your ambition? Perhaps not in the long run. Is it much of a downgrade from Kepa? Not much, if any. I think in his best moments, Kepa is a bit better but Sanchez is less prone to f**k up (though that has happened on occasion, as with any keeper).

If you can get a good bid for Kepa, take it and run because the opportunity to sell him won't come around often.