August 12, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Valerie said: I see we needn't sign Bernd Leno. He's picked himself up after the first 20 minutes. Sign him up!
August 12, 20232 yr We need him. If he goes there should be something in it for us. I'd say no to a loan, even with a fee. Permanent transfer for at least 25 mil or nothing.
August 12, 20232 yr If we were in Madrid's position, desperate for a keeper, every club would demand a king's ransom for their keepers, regardless if they're any good or not. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same and fleece Madrid.
August 12, 20232 yr Loan is ok, depending on the loan fee. It all comes down to book value. £72m transfer fee, over the 7 years of the contract = 10.2m per year. If madrid don't want an obligation to buy, then we need to include a chunky loan fee of at least 10.2m, and preferably a bit more to post a profit for the year. The saving on book value from any loan fee, plus the saving on wages makes a loan viable - but only IF Kepa extends his contract with us before he goes.
August 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, yaz said: If we were in Madrid's position, desperate for a keeper, every club would demand a king's ransom for their keepers, regardless if they're any good or not. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same and fleece Madrid. Because it is in our interests not to price Kepa out of a move. We probably want him gone - and a madrid move, loan or transfer is a way to get that done. Best not to scare them off, into the direction of Navas, Lloris or de gea
August 12, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, DidierDrogbalala said: I dont see the benefit to us loaning him with no obligation to buy. Tibo comes back and then they send Kepa back to us with a year left on his deal. we clear his wages and get a loan fee for a year, but is like Lukakus loan last year, just leaves us with issues both the current season and when he comes back. Why are we doing Real a favour?
August 12, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said: Loan is ok, depending on the loan fee. It all comes down to book value. £72m transfer fee, over the 7 years of the contract = 10.2m per year. If madrid don't want an obligation to buy, then we need to include a chunky loan fee of at least 10.2m, and preferably a bit more to post a profit for the year. The saving on book value from any loan fee, plus the saving on wages makes a loan viable - but only IF Kepa extends his contract with us before he goes. I suppose it makes sense - removes wages and loan fee which covers the book value for the year. No-one is paying £20m for Kepa.
August 12, 20232 yr A year left puts us in an easier negotiating position as well when we sell him. Despite the wages.
August 12, 20232 yr Just now, Sconnie Blue said: A year left puts us in an easier negotiating position as well when we sell him. Despite the wages. Perversely the 7 year deal has now helped us. With the way we were run in the early period of the new ownership we would have 100% rewarded his October purple patch with a bumper new deal if he was in his last year.
August 12, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, DidierDrogbalala said: Everyone wants our players for free and we keep saying yes. We should ask for Tchouameni on loan in return. Saves us 120 mill on caicedo and gives santos time to develop. Win win for all.
August 12, 20232 yr If he goes on loan, it’s clearly a financial decision which we do have to think about it. Not a footballing one.
August 12, 20232 yr Don't see why people think this is a bad deal. He's our number 2 and he's on £170K a week. The club have tried to get rid of Kepa year after year with no takers. Madrid reportedly preferred Bounou but weren't willing to pay his £20m asking price so I'm not sure why people were expecting them to pay a fee or a big loan fee for their backup option. If they're paying all his wages it will save us £10m a year which will cover a sizable chunk of a replacement. Edited August 12, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?
August 12, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, JM7 said: If he goes on loan, it’s clearly a financial decision which we do have to think about it. Not a footballing one. Will it save us money though if we have to go and get a new keeper? Sure the wages will be left but the transfer fee will surley be more than Reals loan fee for Kepa.
August 12, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, axman2526 said: Will it save us money though if we have to go and get a new keeper? Sure the wages will be left but the transfer fee will surley be more than Reals loan fee for Kepa. Exactly and if we go get another ‘competition’ keeper, then we’ll have three #2s on the books next summer and still no top level keeper. Very odd arrangement to me.
August 12, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, axman2526 said: Will it save us money though if we have to go and get a new keeper? Sure the wages will be left but the transfer fee will surley be more than Reals loan fee for Kepa. If the loan fee is 7/8m and they cover all the wages, then we will still be saving money if we spend even 40m on a keeper
August 12, 20232 yr I don't understand it. The season starts tomorrow, Sanchez has only been with the squad for a short time, Kepa played all of the friendles, so he was clearly in Pochettino's plans. Loaning out Kepa does nothing for us. Any money we receive is going to need to be put towards finding another goalkeeper.
August 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said: I don't understand it. The season starts tomorrow, Sanchez has only been with the squad for a short time, Kepa played all of the friendles, so he was clearly in Pochettino's plans. Loaning out Kepa does nothing for us. Any money we receive is going to need to be put towards finding another goalkeeper. it's very weird
August 12, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said: I don't understand it. The season starts tomorrow, Sanchez has only been with the squad for a short time, Kepa played all of the friendles, so he was clearly in Pochettino's plans. Loaning out Kepa does nothing for us. Any money we receive is going to need to be put towards finding another goalkeeper. It gets an incredibly expensive asset off the books and can be replaced with someone significantly cheaper. Kepa is a £50m keeper with very high wages. He can be replaced cheaper and thats ultimately what matters He was almost certainly going to be our number 2 in time. Why not tomorrow. It makes complete sense to me
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