February 27, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, RickUK said: He wont be forced to sell, or be bought out. He has moved his assets in order to keep Chelsea away from sanctions, or from being impacted. He will continue to bankroll the club and Marina will run it from London. I can almost guarantee some decisions will still go through him using some form of communication. It wont affect anything that would have been planned prior to this Russia/Ukraine tragedy. He'll probably retake everything back within 6 months Or give it to his son Arkady who hopefully isnt tied to putin
February 27, 20224 yr Hard to know where this leaves the club in the long term. The uncertainty will unfortunately pervade the club for a while. I think the prospect of Abramovich selling in the foreseeable future is a real possibility now.
February 27, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, Jezz said: Hard to know where this leaves the club in the long term. The uncertainty will unfortunately pervade the club for a while. I think the prospect of Abramovich selling in the foreseeable future is a real possibility now. whoever buys will have to fork out minimum 1.5bn IMO. Although i may be way off the mark there. Its going to be sold to a incredibly wealthy person/group, if ever
February 27, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, axman2526 said: Rival fans coming out in full force now. Made the mistake of going on Facebook. "Ban them thier success is all blood money" "If he does not sell up chuck Chelsea out of the league" "And who owns this charity? Roman no doubt" "Strip them of everything the got with his blood money" "Chelsea and their fans are a disgrace supporting this man" "Chelsea fans care more about this Putin lapdog than they do innocent people being killed" Etc etc. Many different club supporters coming together in their mutual hatred of us. And they keep coming in shesh. lol ... in a world war two of the biggest clubs have stake from Qatar .. whose entire empire and now the world cup is built on blood.. and then we have Saudi and UAE owner clubs in the league.. Mancity should be the last club lecturing others given UAEs own record in Yemen and sponsoring wars.. i am not for once saying two wrongs make right. but this is a far more complicated world.... and this is just hypocrisy and jealousy.
February 27, 20224 yr Seems like a lot of people have got their knickers in a twist over a statement that effectively says Chelsea will continue to be run exactly the same way.
February 27, 20224 yr I admire Abramovitch. No doubt there is a bad side but I believe he has always done the right thing by Chelsea and football. I am sure this move has been done to protect chelsea and no doubt his interest in it. I hope he stays as Chelsea owner for a long time. I also long for the end of Putin, and have send money to support Ukraine;s defence. It is great to see Europe gradually hardening its stance, especially Germany that gets 40% of its gas from Russia.
February 27, 20224 yr The question whether or not Abramovich supports Putin may be indirectly answered in this interesting article in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify
February 27, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, ozboy said: I admire Abramovitch. No doubt there is a bad side but I believe he has always done the right thing by Chelsea and football. I am sure this move has been done to protect chelsea and no doubt his interest in it. I hope he stays as Chelsea owner for a long time. I also long for the end of Putin, and have send money to support Ukraine;s defence. It is great to see Europe gradually hardening its stance, especially Germany that gets 40% of its gas from Russia. Yeah. This, SWIFT exclusion for many banks and freezing the Russian central bank foreign assets are really major. A huge break with former strategy of appeasement . Short-term very risky as Putin will almost certainly lash out and one has to fear what he’s capable of when things aren’t going his way… but had to be done imo. Appeasement has not worked
February 27, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, The Brit said: Seems like a lot of people have got their knickers in a twist over a statement that effectively says Chelsea will continue to be run exactly the same way. Spot on in my opinion. From memory Roman converted his initial investment, a debt on the clubs balance sheet, into shares probably around 15 years ago when I think there was tensions rising with Russia over something else. A smart move back then and put in place if anything happen to him or sanctions. I believe also one of the main trustees was his son at the time, not sure if that is still the case, however the board of trustees are essentially the Chelsea board. As we know there are some smart people on that board. for me nothing to worry about in the short term other than those poor Ukrainian people stop the war !
February 27, 20224 yr If Roman's assets are frozen then Chelsea will be indirectly be in government control can't see that happening although there are rumours he knows something is coming and this is a pre-emptive move.
February 27, 20224 yr The club has released a statement about the Ukraine conflict. Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Jezz
February 27, 20224 yr Brilliant post on the official site’s chat page. Full credit to Voltaire Returns. The breaking news was announced just as I was going to sleep last night, and I'm certainly glad I slept on it. In all the years that Mr A has been in charge he / we have faced such a barrage of hate, hostility, ill will, animosity, and bitterness, all because we had an owner with money and upset the apple cart of the establishment of English and European football. The knives were out from day one. And in all those 19 years, we have had and proven beyond doubt the best football club owner in the history of football, its rubbed noses in the dirt and had the vast majority of the witch hunting press stooping to below the gutter, and in all those years they could not find a thing against the man or us. Now with a war which he has no connection to other than being of same birth nationality the same as the leader who has gone "full tonto" a witch hunt of epic proportions is underway. Gone and forgotten by many are all the substantial good and charitable works and efforts by a man who has donated more to good causes, charitable and anti semitic projects, here in the UK, Russia, Israel, Lithiuania and Portugal as well as setting up countless projects for integrating people who had historical differences and giving free accommodation to NHS staff to aid them doing their jobs with better efficiency during this recent pandemic..... There is no Russian alive who has devoted and given so much to charity. Yes there are many casualties of war, many collateral damage too, all of us know that the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is wrong, however the utter drivel and hate directed at our club and Mr Amramovich is by people with agendas of their own. The garbage by the Welsh MP who was caught red handed scamming the tax payer on his expenses, should not be in Parliament but in jail for stealing our tax payers money. Many of these ignorant agenda seeking monkeys, and their lack of intelligence and understanding, fail to grab the position of a man who can not comment for any words he might say that could be considered critical or offensive would put lives of family, friends and co-workers at risk back in Russia. This war is of a dictator who's lost the plot and is killing people who speak his own language and attacking his own family relations, this is not a war in the name of Russian people. For one his brief statement, gives a clear indication of his love and respect for our club, in his own words he comments he is a custodian of Chelsea FC, and with its well being in mind he moved his involvement away so the club may not be penalized for something he and the club have not done anything wrong, but knows twisted minds will seek out any retrospective punishment as much driven by misunderstanding, bias and hate at our success as of any perceived against an idiot in Moscow. As in the past there were many decent and good German's that could do very little against the rise of Hitler, but by birth everyone is tarred with the same brush, as in the same wonkey eyes of many today.. that we are still today responsible of the sins of our great grandfathers.... people being offended that were not born to be offended, by people who were not born to cause the pain of the past. Its not just Putin who has gone "full tonto". Custodianship has been given to the clubs charity foundation to protect it from those that seek any random punishment at any target even if it has nothing remotely to do with the problem at hand. We know we were always hated, that is part of life being a Chelsea fan, its got worse as we have got better and better. There is and was and will be no better owner of Chelsea FC than Mr Abamovich and for one I'll wait for however long it takes for him to come back home to the club where he is, respected, loved and wanted.
February 27, 20224 yr He is still the Russian oligarch owner of Chelsea no matter what manoeuvres he employs. best guess is he will be barred from supporting the club financially , if I thought that would help Ukrainians I would support it. but it wont
February 27, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, Dean said: Yeah. This, SWIFT exclusion for many banks and freezing the Russian central bank foreign assets are really major. A huge break with former strategy of appeasement . Short-term very risky as Putin will almost certainly lash out and one has to fear what he’s capable of when things aren’t going his way… but had to be done imo. Appeasement has not worked Not sure that NATO edging up to the Russian border is " appeasement !
February 27, 20224 yr 36 minutes ago, Upsetter said: Brilliant post on the official site’s chat page. Full credit to Voltaire Returns. The breaking news was announced just as I was going to sleep last night, and I'm certainly glad I slept on it. In all the years that Mr A has been in charge he / we have faced such a barrage of hate, hostility, ill will, animosity, and bitterness, all because we had an owner with money and upset the apple cart of the establishment of English and European football. The knives were out from day one. And in all those 19 years, we have had and proven beyond doubt the best football club owner in the history of football, its rubbed noses in the dirt and had the vast majority of the witch hunting press stooping to below the gutter, and in all those years they could not find a thing against the man or us. Now with a war which he has no connection to other than being of same birth nationality the same as the leader who has gone "full tonto" a witch hunt of epic proportions is underway. Gone and forgotten by many are all the substantial good and charitable works and efforts by a man who has donated more to good causes, charitable and anti semitic projects, here in the UK, Russia, Israel, Lithiuania and Portugal as well as setting up countless projects for integrating people who had historical differences and giving free accommodation to NHS staff to aid them doing their jobs with better efficiency during this recent pandemic..... There is no Russian alive who has devoted and given so much to charity. Yes there are many casualties of war, many collateral damage too, all of us know that the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is wrong, however the utter drivel and hate directed at our club and Mr Amramovich is by people with agendas of their own. The garbage by the Welsh MP who was caught red handed scamming the tax payer on his expenses, should not be in Parliament but in jail for stealing our tax payers money. Many of these ignorant agenda seeking monkeys, and their lack of intelligence and understanding, fail to grab the position of a man who can not comment for any words he might say that could be considered critical or offensive would put lives of family, friends and co-workers at risk back in Russia. This war is of a dictator who's lost the plot and is killing people who speak his own language and attacking his own family relations, this is not a war in the name of Russian people. For one his brief statement, gives a clear indication of his love and respect for our club, in his own words he comments he is a custodian of Chelsea FC, and with its well being in mind he moved his involvement away so the club may not be penalized for something he and the club have not done anything wrong, but knows twisted minds will seek out any retrospective punishment as much driven by misunderstanding, bias and hate at our success as of any perceived against an idiot in Moscow. As in the past there were many decent and good German's that could do very little against the rise of Hitler, but by birth everyone is tarred with the same brush, as in the same wonkey eyes of many today.. that we are still today responsible of the sins of our great grandfathers.... people being offended that were not born to be offended, by people who were not born to cause the pain of the past. Its not just Putin who has gone "full tonto". Custodianship has been given to the clubs charity foundation to protect it from those that seek any random punishment at any target even if it has nothing remotely to do with the problem at hand. We know we were always hated, that is part of life being a Chelsea fan, its got worse as we have got better and better. There is and was and will be no better owner of Chelsea FC than Mr Abamovich and for one I'll wait for however long it takes for him to come back home to the club where he is, respected, loved and wanted. Completely agree and well put let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that
February 27, 20224 yr Very cynical when politicians speak up - bit of a look at me exercise. I’m not one to think the sun shines out of Roman’s Arse…but I am a bit mystified why he and chelsea are being blamed for Ukraine.
February 27, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said: Not sure that NATO edging up to the Russian border is " appeasement ! Come on. Don’t buy into that narrative, a favourite among useful idiots outside Russia, usually on the extreme left. It’s BS. If NATO has indeed had an aggressive expansion plan (it hasn’t), ask yourself why that might be. Look at the former Soviet countries Putin has caused the most trouble in or invaded: Georgia, Ukraine (both not members of NATO). Look where he HASN’T invaded: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania (all NATO members). Coincidence? Think he wouldn’t have tried if they weren’t in NATO?. It’s pretty clear who the aggressor is. Sometimes it’s best to default to Occam’s razor.
February 27, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, azpi28 said: Completely agree and well put let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that It's not true that Russians and Ukrainians speak the same language, Ukrainian has branched off the same tree as Russian yes, but they've developed quite differently. Dutch, Afrikaans, German and English have branched off the same tree, but they're quite different languages and cultures. Kiev have been forcing Russian speakers in Donbass to teach children through the medium of Ukrainian not Russian. Donbass has NEVER been a Ukrainian majority speaking area, neither has Crimea. Crimea and Donbass are Russian. There are areas of Latvia and Estonia where children are taught through the medium of Russian, but there they haven't been killed by Latvians for doing so; Kiev has used force, aggression and violence to change the language spoken by ppl in Donbass. #MinorityEuropeanLanguagesMatter #CymruAmByth #ScottishIndependence #Kernow (Apparently J Cundy's paternal side come from Cornwall).
February 27, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, LlanCFC said: It's not true that Russians and Ukrainians speak the same language, Ukrainian has branched off the same tree as Russian yes, but they've developed quite differently. Dutch, Afrikaans, German and English have branched off the same tree, but they're quite different languages and cultures. Kiev have been forcing Russian speakers in Donbass to teach children through the medium of Ukrainian not Russian. Donbass has NEVER been a Ukrainian majority speaking area, neither has Crimea. Crimea and Donbass are Russian. There are areas of Latvia and Estonia where children are taught through the medium of Russian, but there they haven't been killed by Latvians for doing so; Kiev has used force, aggression and violence to change the language spoken by ppl in Donbass. #MinorityEuropeanLanguagesMatter #CymruAmByth #ScottishIndependence #Kernow (Apparently J Cundy's paternal side come from Cornwall). Is this a not so veiled attempt to be blaming the victim? Your statement on the Russian ownership of Donbas and the Crimea are also quite contentious. Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Valerie
February 27, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, Jezz said: The club has released a statement about the Ukraine conflict. Being branded a disgraceful statement. At this point it doesn't matter what the club do, the rats and leeches in the media want to crucify us. I suppose that's what 20 years of jealousy, anger and hatred do to some people. Actually very sad, those people need professional help. Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Chelsbear
February 27, 20224 yr Just now, Chelsbear said: Being branded a disgraceful statement. At this point it doesn't matter what the club do, the rats and leeches in the media want to crucify us. I suppose that's what 20 years of jealousy, anger and hatred do to some people. Actually very sad, those people need professional help. It's gone beyond legitimate concerns about Abramovich's links to the Kremlin, to unrelenting hatred for the club by those who have an axe to grind with us.
February 27, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, Valerie said: The question whether or not Abramovich supports Putin may be indirectly answered in this interesting article in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify That’s a harsh read, Turn back the clock to a Pre Nazi Germany, full of bent ideology..
February 27, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, The Brit said: Very cynical when politicians speak up - bit of a look at me exercise. I’m not one to think the sun shines out of Roman’s Arse…but I am a bit mystified why he and chelsea are being blamed for Ukraine. The average rival fan and every United and Liverpool fan (due to generations of inbreeding) probably don’t know more Russians than Putin and Abramovich
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