27 minutes ago, reparto corse said:

Did Ian Porterfield get to spend $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on new signings?

Did Ian Porterfield only get 2 months to work with the players signed during his reign?

22 hours ago, enigma said:

What annoys me is the fans have been "potter out, potter out, potter out" now he's gone people are still moaning because our form hasn't improved and surprise, surprise, the players still can't score.

The man took us to the 1/4 finals of the CL beating AC Milan pretty handily, the same AC Milan who beat Tottenham and thrashed Napoli the other day. 

The board listened to the fans, yet the fans are still whining. People will never be happy unless we are beating teams 3/4-0 every game and winning trophies every year. 

They are looking for a new manager to take over next season, so we have to just suck it up and deal with the sh*t this season unfortunately. 

Potter had seven months to figure it out. Lampard had one training session. I personally don't rate either, but it's ridiculous to expect things to improve that fast.

AC Milan is an average side nowadays and we were lucky to beat them at the group stage, the sending off made things much easier. The fact that they knocked out Spurs has more to do with how sh*t Tottenham is rather than how good they are.

As for beating teams 3/4-0, we've scored less goals in the league than we've played games so far. This is shocking and pathetic. Of course people are complaining. What are they supposed to do, rejoice in our mediocrity?

20 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Many of our new money fans have no patience or perspective. They DEMAND RESULTS NOW....and god help anyone who doesn't get them. 

 

The thing is, in hindsight our fans were raving about Boehly and Co spending money and bringing in the likes of Koulibaly, Sterling, Fofana, Felix, Enzo etc. Now it hasn't worked perfectly, people are saying we bought too many players, not good enough, overhyped etc.

I remember people praising Boehly to the hilt after signing Enzo and Felix, talking about how we are going to cook with those players and saying amazing things. Fan's opinions change like the wind, now Boehly is a fool etc. Make ya minds up. 

Also, I remember the criticism about going after Ronaldo, which is rumoured to be one of the reasons he clashed with Tuchel, but in hindsight maybe he wouldn't have been the worse signing considering he couldn't do worse than what we have this season.

Not that I'd have been that keen on a signing of Ronaldo, but looking at us this season even if he scored 10+ goals it would be better than anything we have up top. Tuchel got his man in Lukaku and yet fumbled that for whatever reason, which is bloody annoying as we had a striker that we had paid a lot of money for. 

Edited April 11, 20233 yr by enigma

43 minutes ago, enigma said:

I remember people praising Boehly to the hilt after signing Enzo and Felix, talking about how we are going to cook with those players and saying amazing things. Fan's opinions change like the wind, now Boehly is a fool etc. Make ya minds up. 

Fans are reactionary, that's the name of the game. Not everyone was fooled though. He's done so much wrong at the club you could spend all day listing it but these things sums a lot up for me.

- Spent £250m in the market on a manager he was planning to sack. Then sacked him days after the new signings had arrived giving him no chance to play with them.
- Spent another £300m + on a manager that had already proved he was not good enough by the time the window reopened. Shortly after he was also sacked.

It's planning on such a poor level I doubt we'll ever see it again in world football. It's like he's been actively trying to do everything wrong.

Has anyone assembled a realistic(ish) squad we might have after next summers transfer window? 

Probably a lot to do with the coach but if you had to do one now....

Bare in mind we have to sell 6-8 players. 

9 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Did Ian Porterfield only get 2 months to work with the players signed during his reign?

2 months? How long has Potter been here again? Pretty sure it wasn`t 2 months.

5 hours ago, abramovich said:

AC Milan is an average side nowadays and we were lucky to beat them at the group stage, the sending off made things much easier.

A sending off that happened because we played quick on the turnover which totally exploited Pioli's tactical decision to have Theo Hernandez tucking into the midfield in possesion.

No luck involved whatsoever.

2 hours ago, OriginalS said:

Fans are reactionary, that's the name of the game. Not everyone was fooled though. He's done so much wrong at the club you could spend all day listing it but these things sums a lot up for me.

- Spent £250m in the market on a manager he was planning to sack. Then sacked him days after the new signings had arrived giving him no chance to play with them.
- Spent another £300m + on a manager that had already proved he was not good enough by the time the window reopened. Shortly after he was also sacked.

It's planning on such a poor level I doubt we'll ever see it again in world football. It's like he's been actively trying to do everything wrong.

You're right the summer window was poor, we should have just signed Fofana and Sterling (maybe Enzo if it wasn't already too late by the time the new owners got their feet under the table) and left it at that.

January however was a different kettle of fish, Enzo would make it under any manager so would Badiashille atleast as a squad player and Mudryk is a lot better than his performances so far show.

The only odd one was Madueke, not sure what he brings what Hutchinson can't.

49 minutes ago, Argo said:

A sending off that happened because we played quick on the turnover which totally exploited Pioli's tactical decision to have Theo Hernandez tucking into the midfield in possesion.

No luck involved whatsoever.

I meant we were lucky that we've had an advantage of an extra player for the rest of the match, not that we were lucky to get the decision.

3 hours ago, evissy said:

Has anyone assembled a realistic(ish) squad we might have after next summers transfer window? 

Probably a lot to do with the coach but if you had to do one now....

Bare in mind we have to sell 6-8 players. 

** Homegrown (still not sure how this applies to players who turn 21 the fiscal season)

 

Centre Forwards:

Kolo Muani

Armando Broja **

 

Attackers: 

Christopher Nkunku

Joao Felix

Raheem Sterling **

Mykhailo Mudryk

Noni Madueke **

 

Midfield: 

Enzo Fernandez

N'golo Kante

Romeo Lavia

Gavi

Andrey Santos 

Ruben Loftus-Cheek **

 

Wingback/Fullbacks 

Reece James **

Ben Chilwell **

Malo Gusto

Marc Cucurella

 

Centre Backs:

Thiago Silva

Wesley Fofana

Benoît Badiashile

Levi Colwill **

Trevoh Chalobah **

 

Goal Keeper:

David Raya **

Kepa

Bettinelli **

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 20233 yr by Sconnie Blue

Those are some weird signings you want.

12 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Those are some weird signings you want.

I mean 99% of them are players we are heavily linked with 😂

3 hours ago, reparto corse said:

2 months? How long has Potter been here again? Pretty sure it wasn`t 2 months.

You asked how many players Porterfield got to sign.

So if you are using signings as the benchmark, then only right to point out that Potter had 1 transfer window, and got a grand total of 2 months to work with his new players that you are judging him against. (End of Jan -End of March)

16 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Did Ian Porterfield only get 2 months to work with the players signed during his reign?

Sadly not.

Obviously we fans feel terrible but imagine what Roman must be feeling. Chelsea was his life for 20 years and he poured his money and love to make us one of the best clubs in the world. And the new owners have made us midtable in less than a year. 

9 minutes ago, RomansRoubles said:

Obviously we fans feel terrible but imagine what Roman must be feeling. Chelsea was his life for 20 years and he poured his money and love to make us one of the best clubs in the world. And the new owners have made us midtable in less than a year. 

He shouldn't get a free pass. The inconsistent way we've been ran for a decade has contributed, his last big signing summing things up nicely.

I don’t mind Todd and co. Despite this season, I do genuinely think that we have good owners who want us to be best. I think they’ve been a little naive but that’s to be expected. They will soon learn. 
 

My only criticism is that they went abit scorched earth and dismantled everything. I don’t believe the club needed to be massively rebuilt, it needed tweaking rather rebuilding. It’s created a lot of issues with the team and club as a whole. 
 

I think we’ll be get there. It’s just a bad moment. 

Just now, Argo said:

He shouldn't get a free pass. The inconsistent way we've been ran for a decade has contributed, his last big signing summing things up nicely.

Yeah since Conte, we’ve been on the decline really. Signings were getting worse and transfer policy was upside down. He did great for us but the moment he didn’t get his visa, things slowed down and we lost direction. 

22 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Yeah since Conte, we’ve been on the decline really. Signings were getting worse and transfer policy was upside down. He did great for us but the moment he didn’t get his visa, things slowed down and we lost direction. 

It all started when we brought a bunch of young players and gave the task of developing them to Mourinho. The 2015 and 2017 titles were sticky plasters.

I don't want to go too far in because Roman was amazing all in all but the rewritting of the last period drives me nuts.

Edited April 12, 20233 yr by Argo

16 minutes ago, Argo said:

He shouldn't get a free pass. The inconsistent way we've been ran for a decade has contributed, his last big signing summing things up nicely.

Also I don’t think Roman does “feeling” much. 

14 minutes ago, Argo said:

It all started when we brought a bunch of young players and gave the task of developing them to Mourinho. The 2015 and 2017 titles were sticky plasters.

I don't want to go too in because Roman was amazing all in all but the rewritting of the last period drives me nuts.

Agreed. Some memorable cup wins papered over the cracks but the team had been in a gradual decline for years. Unfortunately though, this season with the change of ownership everything just accelerated. Classic case of new owners wanting to build their own team. Well they have done that for sure and the early results are not pretty.

38 minutes ago, Argo said:

He shouldn't get a free pass. The inconsistent way we've been ran for a decade has contributed, his last big signing summing things up nicely.

Sure. But we always stayed in top 4 barring a couple of times. This is a new level of incompetence. 

2 minutes ago, RomansRoubles said:

Sure. But we always stayed in top 4 barring a couple of times. This is a new level of incompetence. 

The new owners could and should have decided to go easy on the changes initially, at least until they had established their new team of football specialists (Vivell, Winstanley etc.). Especially given that they knew next to nothing about football themselves. Instead they took the approach often seen from new CEO's at corporations, and chose to initiate an immediate and major rebuild. It is hardly surprising that the results have been so awful.

Making Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter look successful.

17 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Making Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter look successful.

I know you’re joking, but it does all seem strangely connected: inflated egos, acquisition of wealth and power way beyond what “should” have been theirs, breeding sense of invincibility, reckless risk-taking etc etc..