August 7, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, enigma said: I was browsing Redcafe and noticed a posted mentioned us with city and PSG as cooking the books. They can f**king talk! They have barely made £100m in sales in the last 3 transfer windows. Meanwhile we've made a fair bit of profit on sold players, but also they spend almost £200m on three players while we never had a transfer window to spend in. They also spent around £60m+ on Diallo, Van de Been, and Telles - all have sat in the bench for most of the season. Yeah but they love their double standards. Our players are bought with 'oil money' and theirs are clearly bought with the sales of Cabbages from those fine upstanding Mancunian allotments.
August 7, 20214 yr https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/08/07/610e658622601de73c8b4657.html
August 9, 20214 yr Seen a few people ask why he cant take a bigger pay cut to stay, or why he cant play for free even. It turns out spanish law states any new contract must be at least 50% of previous contract to stop financial doping. So he took as big a pay cut as he possibly could. Crazy on Barcelona's side to pay him that much money in the 1st place.
August 9, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, big blue said: Seen a few people ask why he cant take a bigger pay cut to stay, or why he cant play for free even. It turns out spanish law states any new contract must be at least 50% of previous contract to stop financial doping. So he took as big a pay cut as he possibly could. Crazy on Barcelona's side to pay him that much money in the 1st place. Especially as they are now bleating that is unfair if PSG get him because it breaches salary rules. That's a hoot. Its' not even that Messi is bringing them to their knees, its the accumulation of years of ridiculous overspend and rule breaking. Just looking forward to seeing him kiss the PSG badge next time he scores, cos its all about the glory after all. Presumably PSG don't care that they are getting a player that doesn't want to be there but he can't play for the club he wants to play for because he has contributed to busting them.
August 10, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, mojo said: €35m net per season 😐 Plus the same as a signing on bonus. Has picked money over sporting ambition sadly.
August 10, 20214 yr I know it is weird seeing Messi in something else than a Barca shirt. The way it ended was certainly not the way you want to see it end for them. But people, football romantics, go absolutely nuts and see ominous Paris a hell for Messi and the worst thing they can imagine. It is a brilliant club with wealth and with one target in mind... Win the Champions League once, then second time, then third time and so on. Get over it.
August 10, 20214 yr £1 mil if I may believe the media. Holy ****. You gotta sell a lot of jerseys for that.
August 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, evissy said: I know it is weird seeing Messi in something else than a Barca shirt. The way it ended was certainly not the way you want to see it end for them. But people, football romantics, go absolutely nuts and see ominous Paris a hell for Messi and the worst thing they can imagine. It is a brilliant club with wealth and with one target in mind... Win the Champions League once, then second time, then third time and so on. Get over it. Aye I am sure they are run as above board and on the level as the Qatar bid for the world cup was.
August 10, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, mojo said: €35m net per season 😐 It's actually more than that. The Neymar deal is super shady with all the "extra" things the club (and owners) addlegedly do for him, Messi will be even more showered with gifts. Just a shame we'll never get to see him in the prem. Look forward to him smashing goals past the horrific ligue 1 defence though...
August 10, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, mojo said: €35m net per season 😐 Income tax rate in France is 45% on earnings over €160k. So almost half his wages will be taxed, so he's being paid almost €70m a year. Over €1m per week. Plus a signing on fee rumoured to be a further €35m plus whatever bonuses etc they've agreed. 1 year contract with Messi is likely to cost more than the entirety of the transfer fee we're going pay for Lukaku. That's crazy money.
August 10, 20214 yr Disgusting club in a bum league full of petulant players under a very overrated manager; Messi will fit in nicely there (this last bit is sarcasm). He’s gone for the easy ride and easy money until he hangs his boots up. Can’t blame him, PSG in the Uber Eats league is like Tyson Fury fighting at a white collar event. If there was ever a footballing example of corruption then look no further than Paris Saint Germain. If Chelsea were ran by terrorist funding, human rights abusing, sexist, racist and visibly corrupt owners like them, I’d be supporting Newport County.
August 10, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, thebluekid said: Disgusting club in a bum league full of petulant players under a very overrated manager; Messi will fit in nicely there (this last bit is sarcasm). He’s gone for the easy ride and easy money until he hangs his boots up. Can’t blame him, PSG in the Uber Eats league is like Tyson Fury fighting at a white collar event. If there was ever a footballing example of corruption then look no further than Paris Saint Germain. If Chelsea were ran by terrorist funding, human rights abusing, sexist, racist and visibly corrupt owners like them, I’d be supporting Newport County. So you don't see anything shady in Roman Abramovich? Nothing is wrong in our type of ownership? What about American owners of Liverpool and Manchester United. All okay. Manchester City clean as a whistle?
August 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, evissy said: So you don't see anything shady in Roman Abramovich? Nothing is wrong in our type of ownership? What about American owners of Liverpool and Manchester United. All okay. Manchester City clean as a whistle? Mr. Abramovich has had his fair share of dodgy dealings I am sure; nothing quite like those that run PSG though. You can add Manchester City to that statement of mine as well in fairness; both clubs and fans should be f**king ashamed of themselves for being a part of it and allowing their morals to subside for the sake of success. Chelsea Football Club and Abramovich are nothing in comparison.
August 10, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, thebluekid said: Mr. Abramovich has had his fair share of dodgy dealings I am sure; nothing quite like those that run PSG though. You can add Manchester City to that statement of mine as well in fairness; both clubs and fans should be f**king ashamed of themselves for being a part of it and allowing their morals to subside for the sake of success. Chelsea Football Club and Abramovich are nothing in comparison. What I am trying to say here is you are drawing a line to somewhere grey. You don't know what Liverpool American owners have done. It is easy to target Russians, Arabs as people in general don't trust them. Bottom line: we don't know who is the Bill Cosby of owners.
August 10, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, evissy said: What I am trying to say here is you are drawing a line to somewhere grey. You don't know what Liverpool American owners have done. It is easy to target Russians, Arabs as people in general don't trust them. Bottom line: we don't know who is the Bill Cosby of owners. Whatever way, it doesn’t quite account for state funded terrorism. Judging from time working with the Saudi’s, generically speaking, they’re not a very nice bunch of people to work with at the ground level, so can’t begin to imagine what kind of people they are at the top!
August 10, 20214 yr Neymar-Mbappe-Messi trio will be the most dangerous attack in Europe, after Werner-Lukaku-Havertz of course.
August 10, 20214 yr Messi will wear 30. That is weird. He will probably score 30 and assist 30 next season... Not that I feel sad we didn't go for him it would have been pretty special seeing him feature for us. He would have made us the main candidate for the title just like that. He is still so good it is unfair.
August 10, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, Bob stark said: Such a shame that he decide to move to psg, it will be great to see him in pl. Never would have happened. He's not silly. He'll stay in a league that only has one team
August 10, 20214 yr Personally I believe this is a bullet dodged. Massive financials for an ageing player, who has never played in the prem. Perhaps more concerning than the financials, would have been the impact on the squad. I can see it turning into a 1 man circus, which seems against the ethos of much of our players and manager. Of course, he could have been magic, but I have a feeling the laws of nature do still apply to him, and I suspect the pace of the game in the EPL would find him out. Simply put, he is of course a special player, but I believe equally, Barca and La Liga played a huge part in the Messi phenomenon, and I don't think he would have one half as many awards (or titles) had he played in the prem.
August 10, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, thebluekid said: Disgusting club in a bum league full of petulant players under a very overrated manager; Messi will fit in nicely there (this last bit is sarcasm). He’s gone for the easy ride and easy money until he hangs his boots up. Can’t blame him, PSG in the Uber Eats league is like Tyson Fury fighting at a white collar event. If there was ever a footballing example of corruption then look no further than Paris Saint Germain. If Chelsea were ran by terrorist funding, human rights abusing, sexist, racist and visibly corrupt owners like them, I’d be supporting Newport County. Teams like Marseille, Lyon, Lille, Monaco are big European teams and all all this talk just for PSG to not win the league last year haha! Past 5 years PSG have won it 3 times, Monaco once and Lille once. If you wanna look at corruption, I think City are easily the worst of all teams. In all honesty, I dont think any billionaire owned club is clean at all and are all somewhat dirty. I would have loved nothing more than to see Messi at Chelsea. We could have paid him a million a week, and the amount of money he would have bought in for us would make that look like chump change, not to mention him catapult us to a different stratosphere in terms of club status. Now its PSG who will arguably end up being another Real Madrid or Barca and not us, what a shame.
August 10, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said: Personally I believe this is a bullet dodged. Massive financials for an ageing player, who has never played in the prem. Perhaps more concerning than the financials, would have been the impact on the squad. I can see it turning into a 1 man circus, which seems against the ethos of much of our players and manager. Of course, he could have been magic, but I have a feeling the laws of nature do still apply to him, and I suspect the pace of the game in the EPL would find him out. Simply put, he is of course a special player, but I believe equally, Barca and La Liga played a huge part in the Messi phenomenon, and I don't think he would have one half as many awards (or titles) had he played in the prem. Messi playing for us would have bought us in so much money globally that its actually a joke. Do you know how many eyes will be on PSG now just because he plays there? Its catapulted them into a whole different level.
August 10, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said: Personally I believe this is a bullet dodged. Massive financials for an ageing player, who has never played in the prem. Perhaps more concerning than the financials, would have been the impact on the squad. I can see it turning into a 1 man circus, which seems against the ethos of much of our players and manager. Of course, he could have been magic, but I have a feeling the laws of nature do still apply to him, and I suspect the pace of the game in the EPL would find him out. Simply put, he is of course a special player, but I believe equally, Barca and La Liga played a huge part in the Messi phenomenon, and I don't think he would have one half as many awards (or titles) had he played in the prem. You have seen him destroy the cream of the PL haven't you, when he was 22-29, he'd of smashed the PL, you cant stop genius, and he has had the living sh*t kicked out of his legs in Spain, now he'd probably be equal to Kane in numbers, admittedly he played with special players, i used to just dream of him playing for us around 2007-12....
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