1 minute ago, just said:

Drogba sometimes also worked with very little but still usually made something happen. Lukaku is not in his league though.

Drogba was a menace throughout even in games where he was sh*te. He could always pull out some crazy shot from nothing

2 minutes ago, Deino said:

Personally I don't think formation matters much when no one tries to make space or run into space. 

I think it does matter right now, you see Juventus players giving us all the possession till the final third and then Lukaku is in the middle, Kai tries to come inside the box and that's it. 2 players waiting for service that never comes.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Juventus is waiting for a counter-attack

Kovacic to pass to them.

1 minute ago, comtrend said:

Get Werner on for Ziyech and Chilwell on for Alonso, need some pace and movement. I don't want to see another half with Alonso backbpasses from positions where he can put the ball into the box.

Alonso is starting to show what we have come to expect of him now. He has a decent little run of form, but it quickly disappears. TIme to get Chilwell back into the team.

So late to the party guys, have I’ve I missed all the Alex Sandro jokes?

I hope it gets really windy in Turin for the second half. Cuadrado doesn't like it. It makes him fall over. We saw it a lot when he played for us.

4 minutes ago, coco said:

Kovacic has started more juventus moves than their whole team.

Yep... that's where we need to start with changing

Loftus, Chilly B and Timo that's what I want to see. More early balls at least Timo would give us off the ball movement, Loftus will drive through the middle and Chilly will make us more defensively sound.

I guess we can all agree that Tommy must release Pulisic from his underprison dungeon now. 😅

5 minutes ago, Argo said:

Record signing or not Rom should be dropped for the big games until he proves himself in them.

Can't believe we have a proven front 3 for big games that we may not see again, maddening.

But we have created pretty well nothing for Rom to feed on. How about whipping in a cross or 2 that he could actually attack?

We still don't have a creative midfielder who can unlock tight defenses. Ziyech was supposed to be that player but he has turned out to be underwhelming. Tuchel has to find a way to deal with such teams because we will face a lot of them

Our attack has become more predictable than mystic Meg.

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Alonso is starting to show what we have come to expect of him now. He has a decent little run of form, but it quickly disappears. TIme to get Chilwell back into the team.

Can be applied to the whole team with the exception of Mendy & Lukaku!

Simply not a champion caliber team folks. Don't know how to put it any other way. 

Chilly coming on

Chilly coming on 

Tuchel talking to Chilly, could this mean that he is coming on this second half? Also, Jorginho and Kova have been a bit pants, especially Kova. The attacking three also verY inefficient. Quite a bad first half.

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Alonso is starting to show what we have come to expect of him now. He has a decent little run of form, but it quickly disappears. TIme to get Chilwell back into the team.

Alonso does weigh in with a few goals but I still prefer Chilwell. 

Just now, Gol15 said:

I think it does matter right now, you see Juventus players giving us all the possession till the final third and then Lukaku is in the middle, Kai tries to come inside the box and that's it. 2 players waiting for service that never comes.

Lets say we change it to whatever formation that you think is right, which of our players make that run? Ziyech wants it to feet, Lukaku wants it to feet, Havertz wants it to feet, practically everyone in our team wants it to feet. 

No one is peeling off a defender to make space. In the first half we have 10 men on the field who stands around waiting for the ball

Marcos off at half time - will we see him again? 

Chilly on the pitch

1 minute ago, forbzy said:

But we have created pretty well nothing for Rom to feed on. How about whipping in a cross or 2 that he could actually attack?

Our biggest 'creator' last season was our pressing, which Rom is useless at.

f**k you Tom Rosenthal!

f**k…

Oh bugger.

4 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Not sure what to say Tuchel said the two of then are lacking form and confidence. When these players are on song and I know this hasn't been nearly as consistent as we want they look proper players.

The more I watch us in games like this that follow a similar pattern I'm convinced that no manager in the world wins UCL with this lot other than Tuchel. Even if we switch to a back 4 we play a more open game we still will struggle to score like under Lamps I think defense is the best we can get at the moment and I say this begrudgingly.

I have to agree there regarding the side. I’ve really, REALLY struggled with hearing/reading comments on how this team is favourite to win the league etc. this year. I do think the UCL win and Tuchel’s ability has glazed over the blatantly shocking truths about the side: they’re not good enough player for player. We have to play a back 3 because our so called, all of a sudden ‘class’ defenders Rudiger/Christensen look like a circus act in a back 4. Alonso is good against sides that sh*t their pants at us. Jorginho has switched off since he’s won everything etc.

 

I hope to God that Tuchel doesn’t go the same way as Frank if we end up dropping some serious points; which I think will happen at some point. The more we stay obsessed with the 3 at the back, the more teams will know how to play against it. Look at Conte etc. 

 

The problem is, with a back 4, this team looks like it would give Tottenham a run for its money as the biggest disappointment since I last forgot my anniversary.