Just now, Argo said:

Although this slightly contradicts point 1 I'm liking the fact we seem to be finally having the mentality to strike at the end of games, that's three late winners in two months. Under Sarri and Lampard I genuinely cannot think of many 85 minute plus winners we got (Cardiff away, anymore?).

And that was offside as well! Abraham vs Arsenal (under Lamps) was a very good one, came from behind as well.

Regarding the Jorginho penalty - the lack of intensity in the shot isn't the problem so much as the fact that he successfully executed his usual trick (i.e. the stutter step which tricks the goalkeeper into committing his weight one way or the other), then inexplicably didn't stick it in the opposite corner! I think Jorginho played poorly today, but can only explain this as a total brain fart.

8 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Jorginho scores that but I'm sure Timo somehow misses

Just like he scored the chance on his left foot against Juve? Oh wait....no, he skewed that wide /sideways as well

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

Three things to note.

In these type of games it feels we have a mental block until we open the scoring, as soon as we've done that the floodgates open and we look very good but we always need an early goal.

Although this slightly contradicts point 1 I'm liking the fact we seem to be finally having the mentality to strike at the end of games, that's three late winners in two months. Under Sarri and Lampard I genuinely cannot think of many 85 minute plus winners we got (Cardiff away, anymore?).

Lukaku could have had a Ole Gunnar Solskjaer esque career here if he knew his place and accepted he's a number 2/super sub but his ego got in the way.

itss allllll gooood mannnnnn 😉

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

He passed plenty of balls forward, you act as if every ball needs to be going inside the box nobody plays like that in reality.

Okay, fine. He got cramp from barely getting out of walking pace all day. This game lacked intensity and he still picked up cramp. Maybe this is why our group keeps breaking down with injuries, they cannot deal with the intensity of the Premier League.

A bit disappointed there. I was getting used to the post Abramovich Chelsea and then they go and win a game to remind us of how it used to be.

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

It really didn't. Penalty was super bad but before it he was having a nice match, we totally controlled the game unlike vs Arsenal when he didn't play. 

Can’t you read .. I said OUR overall performance. That’s your problem your that keen to protect Jorginho you lose all sense of proportion with regards to him.

Edited April 24, 20224 yr by charierre

Just now, Gol15 said:

It's not enough but it's not so bad either. Let's buy Rice for 100m I'm sure he'll be happy to play for us if we give him huge wages.

There are plenty of options in that position Declan rice is not world class .. the conversation is about a more physical and robust midfielder

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Okay, fine. He got cramp from barely getting out of walking pace all day. This game lacked intensity and he still picked up cramp. Maybe this is why our group keeps breaking down with injuries, they cannot deal with the intensity of the Premier League.

I don't think he actually had cramp, he was just time wasting

Just now, Scott Harris said:

Okay, fine. He got cramp from barely getting out of walking pace all day. This game lacked intensity and he still picked up cramp. Maybe this is why our group keeps breaking down with injuries, they cannot deal with the intensity of the Premier League.

What? Did you miss him constantly pushing forward and even being around in the final third a couple of times in the second half? I mean someone needs to stay back a bit not everyone can play like Kante without any care in the world if the ball is lost. Jorginho did his role before the penalty, West Ham couldn't do anything, compare it to the Arsenal game of chaos and it's night and day.

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

 

Lukaku could have had a Ole Gunnar Solskjaer esque career here if he knew his place and accepted he's a number 2/super sub but his ego got in the way.

Can see Rom playing more until the end of the season the way Havertz and Werner are playing sadly. 

Havertz can be brilliant, most talented player in our squad no doubt. But he looks like he's already packed his bags for his summer holidays.

And Werner, is just....................................Werner.

Ok so no post match straight to liverscum

Just now, sonic90 said:

I don't think he actually had cramp, he was just time wasting

for the entire 90mins?

3 minutes ago, Snedger said:

A bit disappointed there. I was getting used to the post Abramovich Chelsea and then they go and win a game to remind us of how it used to be.

We’ve won 8 out of 11 since he got sanctioned 

8 minutes ago, coco said:

Jorginhos penalty bounced twice before the keeper saved it.

Looked like his studs hit the ground before the ball and he scuffed it to me

shame that technique has served us well. However I can’t see him on penalties much longer.

We now have 2pt less than we've managed all season last year. Considering everything that happened this season, I'll gladly take it as a signal that TT is doing wonders with this team. 

He may already given up on this season, but barring some awful new owners, I guess there's hope for the next one. 

12 minutes ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

At least we got Champion league football next season 🙂

Win the next 3 and we can play the reserves vs Leeds before the FA Cup

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

What? Did you miss him constantly pushing forward and even being around in the final third a couple of times in the second half? I mean someone needs to stay back a bit not everyone can play like Kante without any care in the world if the ball is lost. Jorginho did his role before the penalty, West Ham couldn't do anything, compare it to the Arsenal game of chaos and it's night and day.

There it is, wondered when the moronc "kantes fault" defence of the useless f**ker would arrive 🤣

Your an actual lunatic.

4 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

What? Did you miss him constantly pushing forward and even being around in the final third a couple of times in the second half? I mean someone needs to stay back a bit not everyone can play like Kante without any care in the world if the ball is lost. Jorginho did his role before the penalty, West Ham couldn't do anything, compare it to the Arsenal game of chaos and it's night and day.

Whatever Gol, I can't be bothered to get into this with you. You jump on negative comments about Jorginho like a fly does to sh*t. If you think Jorginho or anybody put in an intense and energetic performance, then you're deluded.

Edited April 24, 20224 yr by Scott Harris

1 minute ago, dkw said:

There it is, wondered when the moronc "kantes fault" defence of the useless f**ker would arrive 🤣

Your an actual lunatic.

If your only argument is to insult me, you already lost. 

5 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Can see Rom playing more until the end of the season the way Havertz and Werner are playing sadly. 

Havertz can be brilliant, most talented player in our squad no doubt. But he looks like he's already packed his bags for his summer holidays.

And Werner, is just....................................Werner.

I fear you may be right, I've said for a while now i fear Rom will get another run of constant 90 minutes when he does the basics off the bench a couple of times.

I want to see us stick with Kai up top now and don't panic drop him, let Lukaku come on fresh at 70 in games like today when Kai isn't cutting it.

3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Whatever Gol, I can't be bothered to get into this with you. You jump on negative comments about Jorginho like a fly does to sh*t. If you think Jorginho or anybody put in an intense and energetic performance, then you're deluded.

Jorginho is fecking sh1te and we need to replace asap, Good passer but too lightweight/slow for the prem

3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Whatever Gol, I can't be bothered to get into this with you. You jump on negative comments about Jorginho like a fly does to sh*t. If you think Jorginho or anybody put in an intense and energetic performance, then you're deluded.

Second half we did I think it was obvious. How many times we got the ball in the box in the second half, do you honestly believe that when Man City plays like this and eventually scores that their fans complain about them having no intensity? The goal was coming it's just unlucky that Werner didn't score before getting off and Kante had his shot blocked too.

I just think it's two different things to complain about but fact is we dominated the game and deserved the win.

21 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

This is rare, but I want Jorginho sold. Whatever the price. He’s so much at fault for our patterns of play. 
Behind all of it, but he is just too much for me to take. No engine, no pace, no ability to attack

Nonsense. The same man that won the euros and ucl last season. 

He is just out of form due to being over played. He will come good and be fresh next season since he won't have to play in the world cup

2 minutes ago, Kantesmini said:

Jorginho is fecking sh1te

Easy there with the criticism.. he has been amazing for us in a lot of games .. especially during the UCL run..most of us are criticising his limitations and impact on team but let’s not disrespect a player like that.

9 minutes ago, BluesPower said:

Win the next 3 and we can play the reserves vs Leeds before the FA Cup

We probably only need 2 more wins. Spuds still have to go to Anfield as one of their last 5 games.