Coming back from another gutless away game, went to Leeds as well. We have no one in that team with any bollocks. Apart from a five minutes from  Broja we had no fight or bottle. Going to be a long old season. Even with all the money we have spent I still feel we are four players short, a proper striker, a center half, a ball winning centre midfielder who won't be muscled off the ball and a goal keeper. I hate being negative but we lack any bottle. We need a Jt, Essien, Drogba/Costa and a Big Pete type of players.

More fight Chel

Just now, Jangz said:

Lol top 4 was something lamps did with much less.. let’s talk about Jorginho how many MoMs did he get in our UCL run ..it was Kante who ran our midfield..

maybe it’s a little late so you are struggling but we were discussing Jorginho and not TT 

 

He had a top 4 finish, even if he didn't have he was keeping his job that first season. What he did afterwards got him sacked. He did have Jorginho in the starting lineup too when he fnished top 4 anyway so you have no point here at all.

Doesn't matter who we buy.

Our slow endless balll retention sucks the life out of the game and sucks the enthusiasm out of our support too, we've seen when the team are let off the leash like Madrid away we can play exciting attacking football.

There's no life in the team , no energy, look at Adams by just sheer work rate was able to unsettle the defence , Leeds did the same.

I said let's hope Leeds was the low point of the season.

let's hope Southampton was the low point.

Jesus ,TT is moaning about lack of depth in the squad,  bizarre interview.

14 minutes ago, Sheva said:

This is why top 4 is going to be very difficult this year. Conte elevates spurs into a team that challenges. Top coaches turn good players into great players. 
 

If we had Conte with James and Cucurella,  we would be in the talk for a title. He even turned Lukaku into a world beater! The guy is a miracle worker.

 

 

 

It's a simple formula.  He insists that the players are fit enough. The weak fall away and the fighters deliver. The issue us that the footballing world is full of the weak and therefore he will eventually be ganged up on as he was here. He saw it at spuds early so shifted the weak whingers, Alli, le celso,  the other gangly left footed tw@t whose name I forget (not Bale  the midfielder).

We should have backed Conte. The biggest mistake since pulling the rip cord on Carlo too soon.

Just now, The Rising Sun said:

 

Jesus ,TT is moaning about lack of depth in the squad,  bizarre interview.

Southampton would have bitten our hand off for the bench we have.. clearly he is losing the plot..

sometimes it’s ok to admit we were not prepared and sh*te 

Yet another inexcusable interview by TT after the game...sounds like he's relying on what comes in during the next 2 days...well f**k me he better bring 11 players in then. He says we weren't tough enough in the middle...FFS been like that for years.  Bemoaning the lack of goals since he arrived...THEN f**k IT FIX IT instead of binning every forward in the club since you've been here you should have worked with them...FFS

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That was really hard to watch, not going to single out each player and manager and call them names. The team is still in pre-season mode, nothing is up to scrap even our fitness. Front GK to the striker we are having the worst since Tuchel took over, just can't win games when we have that many cracks in the team. New players just came in or yet to come, there are players wanted out but had to stay, and others just out of form. Don't look at the table, we are the team in trouble, not United or Liverpool. It will be a long tough season, but we are at where Arsenal was this time last season, there are still plenty of time and opportunities to turn this around, especially with players to come.

If you put someone in front of the telly to watch that second half and told them someone was leading 2-1 I think they would have assumed it was us.

Saints had more chances, pressed more, worked harder, showed more interest. We looked happy to sit back and showed little interest in attacking. 

You have to laugh, you really do. I don't think Todd, Clearlake and Co spent the money they did, are making the signings they are, for that sort of football and to lose to dross like Leeds and Southampton.

3 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

Yet another inexcusable interview by TT after the game...sounds like he's relying on what comes in during the next 2 days...well f**k me he better bring 11 players in then. He says we weren't tough enough in the middle...FFS been like that for years.  Bemoaning the lack of goals since he arrived...THEN f**k IT FIX IT instead of binning every forward in the club since you've been here you should have worked with them...FFS

Didn't he just say yesterday he would be a happy manager if the window closed with no new arrivals? Lol

he did say that 

22 minutes ago, JM7 said:

4 wins in the last 15 league games is vey worrying. 

Wow it is that bad? Seriously why are we putting up with such mediocrity? Why? If we were winning ok you can put up with the football as it is but our football is sh*t and that is an awful, awful return in the league.

Why is TT not under serious pressure nevermind talks of a new contract?

Just now, axman2526 said:

Wow it is that bad? Seriously why are we putting up with such mediocrity? Why? If we were winning ok you can put up with the football as it is but our football is sh*t and that is an awful, awful return in the league.

Why is TT not under serious pressure nevermind talks of a new contract?

Because he gave a few good interviews 

i would like him to criticise the players a bit more

they need to be accountable 

they and TT himself 

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2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

If you put someone in front of the telly to watch that second half and told them someone was leading 2-1 I think they would have assumed it was us.

Saints had more chances, pressed more, worked harder, showed more interest. We looked happy to sit back and showed little interest in attacking. 

You have to laugh, you really do. I don't think Todd, Clearlake and Co spent the money they did, are making the signings they are, for that sort of football and to lose to dross like Leeds and Southampton.

One of our biggest strengths was our press. It doesn't work anymore and thus a significant part of our tactic is gone. Combine that with the fact that our defensive tactic is played by mostly players that are 30+ years old and it's a bad combination. We don't have the energy anymore, every game is being played like a routinely job and that gets shut down as soon as the sheer will of the opposition is there.

We spent money on a Werner upgrade which is Sterling and fair enough he's simply a better player. Cucurella was needed as Chilwell was coming back from a long term injury and Alonso isn't in the mix, Koulibably came a few years late but he's also the replacement of Rudiger. Lastly we lost the 100m striker in Lukaku that didn't work out. Our spending is necessary in order to even have a chance to keep a similar level of being a top 4 team. We're lucky that T.Silva isn't injured for example because realistically he should be injured by now after being 37 and playing all the time PL matches.   

Just now, axman2526 said:

Wow it is that bad? Seriously why are we putting up with such mediocrity? Why? If we were winning ok you can put up with the football as it is but our football is sh*t and that is an awful, awful return in the league.

Why is TT not under serious pressure nevermind talks of a new contract?

If TT doesn’t turn things around soon- I doubt he even has until Christmas before he is on the chopping block. I know Boehly isn’t Abramovich but we’ll struggle to get a Europa league spot at this rate. Our CL win has papered over the cracks for too long 

13 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

Yet another inexcusable interview by TT after the game...sounds like he's relying on what comes in during the next 2 days...well f**k me he better bring 11 players in then. He says we weren't tough enough in the middle...FFS been like that for years.  Bemoaning the lack of goals since he arrived...THEN f**k IT FIX IT instead of binning every forward in the club since you've been here you should have worked with them...FFS

As I said before, he acts as if he just walked into the club a couple of days ago and can't believe what he is seeing

Sorry @Munkworth I know this hurts you deeply:

I'd like to comment on the team chemistry... but there wasn't any. 
 

just waiting for word on a new manager now...

 

🤬🤬🤬

Sean Dyche is available 

just saying

Don’t know what that was. What was our midfield to start with? Just Jorginho? Doesn’t Tuchel learn from our previous performances? Why are Ziyech and Pulisic getting game time while wanting to leave? While Gilmour, Chalobah and Ampadu, who can play in midfield, and actually want to stay, are on the bench? I don’t get what Tuchel is doing. I really don’t. It’s almost like he’s setting us up to lose games. 

1 hour ago, AlexTommo said:

How did we win the CL again? 

Luck! Lots of Luck in a fragmented season

58 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

He had ice on his knees . 

He played like he had them on there prior to that too!

I’m sorry, TT is hugely underwhelming. He basically put some structure, added tactics around Frank’s squad and won the CL - which was a fantastic achievement. 200M later, we are significantly worse off than last season - we’re playing badly, new signings don’t fit and the players look like they have zero respect for him. He persists in playing ‘more experienced’ players the perfect example is - does anyone think that Jorginho is better than Billy G? His tactics are a mess, he blames the players constantly and his purchases make little or no sense - there might be a reason he doesn’t stay at big clubs longer than 2 years…

54 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

What? Are you forgetting the way he has carried us in every big European game in that time? Madrid tie two years ago is a particular standout. I agree on his fitness challenges though. Seems to be that we are so reliant on him that he is often rushed back in. We are need of a strong DM type very soon. You can't be playing Jorginho there on his own in a back 4. You're asking for trouble. It is either a back 3 with Jorginho or a back 2 with someone else doing the defensive role.

I wouldn't be overly worried though. Hopefully this elicits the right reaction from the new owners and leads to the reinforcements we need.

He didn't carry us, he performed at a high level, same as everybody else in the tournament that year. Take out most of those players that played the majority of the big games in the Champions League that season, and we don't win it.

6 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Don’t know what that was. What was our midfield to start with? Just Jorginho? Doesn’t Tuchel learn from our previous performances? Why are Ziyech and Pulisic getting game time while wanting to leave? While Gilmour, Chalobah and Ampadu, who can play in midfield, and actually want to stay, are on the bench? I don’t get what Tuchel is doing. I really don’t. It’s almost like he’s setting us up to lose games. 

Very good points