4 hours ago, venom2011 said:

It happened with Torres, it happened with Werner and even Auba could've been played in a couple of times in the last league game. Eventually they stop making the runs, lose confidence, and then we blame the striker.

Costa is seen as the one exception to 'we've had sh*t strikers since Drogba' but it's not a coincidence that he had Fabregas and Hazard to feed him the ball. 

I think in the end you've got to adapt as a player though. We have always been better served by strikers who could play with the ball at their feet and back to goal.

Let's see what the kid can do. Maybe he can do both once he is more used to the style of play.

2 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

I think in the end you've got to adapt as a player though. We have always been better served by strikers who could play with the ball at their feet and back to goal.

Let's see what the kid can do. Maybe he can do both once he is more used to the style of play.

I agree that player need to adapt, slight change is normal but It is very difficult to for a player to completely change their game. We have seen this story again and again with many player with many club. 

Most of the time both the team and the player will  have adapt to each other. You can see it clearly at city with Haaland to some degree Rodri. 

Edited January 9, 20233 yr by Bob stark

5 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

I think in the end you've got to adapt as a player though. We have always been better served by strikers who could play with the ball at their feet and back to goal.

Let's see what the kid can do. Maybe he can do both once he is more used to the style of play.

Agreed but that may be because we've largely been shorn of midfield creativity. Costa wasn't great with his back to goal either but he scrapped for the ball. We shouldn't be buying strikers like Torres, Lukaku, Werner etc and then ask them to change what makes them successful. 

I like the look of the kid though, looks to have a good mix of physicality and technical ability. 

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I agree that player need to adapt, slight change is normal but It is very difficult to for a player to completely change their game. We have seen this story again and again with many player with many club. 

Most of the time both the team and the player will  have adapt to each other. You can see it clearly at city with Haaland to some degree Rodri. 

I would bet half my house on Haaland failing here had we signed him. Not great with his back to goal, doesn't have the best touch, and all his great runs would have come to nothing. Our supply lines are simply shocking. 

4 minutes ago, venom2011 said:

I would bet half my house on Haaland failing here had we signed him. Not great with his back to goal, doesn't have the best touch, and all his great runs would have come to nothing. Our supply lines are simply shocking. 

Agree, in general Haaland will be 200m down the drain. 

However, it really depend on what version of Chelsea that is playing. 

I don't know what Potter is doing so I can't say much. But in last year version, we would have made Haaland looks stupid. 

Strikers can run in behind and do all the things that gifted players do but if you don't pass them the ball and pass it sideways and backwards to the keeper , 

why would they keep going ?

9 hours ago, venom2011 said:

I would bet half my house on Haaland failing here had we signed him. Not great with his back to goal, doesn't have the best touch, and all his great runs would have come to nothing. Our supply lines are simply shocking. 

This crossed my mind looking at striker options, we can sign any world class striker but they would fail here immediately due to how lacking we are in creativity.

On 09/01/2023 at 08:18, hawkster said:

Strikers can run in behind and do all the things that gifted players do but if you don't pass them the ball and pass it sideways and backwards to the keeper , 

why would they keep going ?

The best ones just make sh*t happen on there own a lot of the time.

https://www.facebook.com/ChelseaFC/videos/drogba-goal-v-everton-200607/521038338387301/

https://www.facebook.com/EmiratesFACup/videos/goal-of-the-day-didier-drogba-vs-spurs/301595011006388/

11 hours ago, just said:

The best ones just make sh*t happen on there own a lot of the time.

https://www.facebook.com/ChelseaFC/videos/drogba-goal-v-everton-200607/521038338387301/

https://www.facebook.com/EmiratesFACup/videos/goal-of-the-day-didier-drogba-vs-spurs/301595011006388/

That was Drog ,who've we got at present who can compare ? I do take your point but these guys are rare and we certainly haven't had one for a while 👍

Very lively cameo when he came on. Looks like a player who could cause problems and get goals. 

I think he should have squared it to Havertz when he took it round the keeper but apart from that he offered so much more than Havertz did m, should start against West Ham 

2 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think he should have squared it to Havertz when he took it round the keeper but apart from that he offered so much more than Havertz did m, should start against West Ham 

He is a bit of a selfish player judging by his YouTube comp but I agree, we need his mobility and eagerness to find the net. 

3 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think he should have squared it to Havertz when he took it round the keeper but apart from that he offered so much more than Havertz did m, should start against West Ham 

Not only did he take it round the keeper, he did the covering defender too. I like that he wanted to finish what he himself had created. Shows a striker's instinct. 

He also looked strong. Not something you can say about Havertz or Aubameyang.

1 minute ago, just said:

Not only did he take it round the keeper, he did the covering defender too. I like that he wanted to finish what he himself had created. Shows a striker's instinct.

And also kicked the air angrily when he missed the chance, showed a bit of passion!

Really should get more game time

56 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think he should have squared it to Havertz when he took it round the keeper but apart from that he offered so much more than Havertz did m, should start against West Ham 

Why Havertz would just have ballooned it like he did the chance mount made for him. If it is not on his head Kai is a poor finisher.

49 minutes ago, just said:

Not only did he take it round the keeper, he did the covering defender too. I like that he wanted to finish what he himself had created. Shows a striker's instinct. 

He also looked strong. Not something you can say about Havertz or Aubameyang.

Finish was not great but the build up before was beautiful. 

We would have had a better chance is the post shot or ballooned effort from Kai in first half had fallen to DDF. 

Edited February 4, 20233 yr by axman2526

Would love to see him get a run of games - see what he is about.  Like his movement and physicality so far.

Been reading reports we are desperate to loan him out for the rest of the season. Solely based on what he did in 20 minutes last night, I really hope we don't. 

15 minutes ago, just said:

Been reading reports we are desperate to loan him out for the rest of the season. Solely based on what he did in 20 minutes last night, I really hope we don't. 

Can we even loan him out? We cannot sell or loan Auba because he has played for Barca and us this season. 

DDF has played for both Molde and us this season so I would assume therefore he cannot play anywhere else either.

Don't know why he was taken off, thought he had a solid first half

Looked at least somewhat dangerous, so of course he's replaced with Mount up front instead.

Potter couldn't f**king wait to take him off and replace him with Havertz. 

Every time he plays he looks dangerous, and yet our Graham immediately then parks him on the sidelines LOL. It's happened 3/3 so far ...

He must be thinking WTF ... LOL

Just now, Sexyfootball said:

Every time he plays he looks dangerous, and yet our Graham immediately then parks him on the sidelines LOL. It's happened 3/3 so far ...

He must be thinking WTF ... LOL

To be fair to Potter, he went nearly 70 minutes not having to play Havertz. I'm sure that killed him. 

Taking him off at HT was one of the weirdest subs I can remember in recent Chelsea history. It's like he is actually trying to stop us from scoring. Maybe he wants to get himself sacked on purpose so he can enjoy the money and relax.