Let's analyze everyone favorite player

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Mudryk one on one on the wing. He  dally the ball which pull double team (no problem). 

Normal move, back pass to Sterling

Superstar move, pass to the box

2.

Huge space on the sideline.

Normal move, attack the sideline 

Superstar move, cut inside 

3.

He get the ball close to the sideline with little space. 

Normal move, back pass

Superstar move, attract triple team and try to beat them. 

 

 

I don't have to tell you which move that Mudyrk make every time. I am not even sure this is a coaching problem. This is just basic team sport concept 

"We have players that need to perform in a group. If you see him, it’s amazing, but after, you need to adapt and play for the team – he needs to adapt, and all of that needs time."

This is what poch said about Mudryk in one of his interview and I completely agree. Based on skillset alone, Mudyrk should be at least rotational level player but he want to play as if he is a superstar. 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 20242 yr by Bob stark

Blimey, the poor guy hasn't kicked a ball in a game for a while, and he's still getting beat on!

Will there be an analysis if he comes on and wins the Carabao Cup at the weekend?

BenJacobs suggested that with the sales of our academy players the board aren't bothered on taking a loss on Mudryk. 

1 hour ago, Modueke said:

Blimey, the poor guy hasn't kicked a ball in a game for a while, and he's still getting beat on!

Will there be an analysis if he comes on and wins the Carabao Cup at the weekend?

Depends which team he wins it for.

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

BenJacobs suggested that with the sales of our academy players the board aren't bothered on taking a loss on Mudryk. 

I mean he is still on just a base fee, 62mill. In order for it to get to the much higher quoted fees we have to win a PL and/or a CL while he is here.

Is a bit like Lukaku and Kepa. I would guess the owners will be happy to shift their large contracts (smaller now but still large on Lukakus case) at an FFP break even or loss and cover it with pure profit sales.

For lukaku I believe we need his full 38.5mill release clause for FFP break even, Kepa 10.5mill.

Let's say we take 28.5mill on Lukaku and 5.5mill on Kepa, losing 15mill for FFP.

We have a guaranteed 28mill for Hall this summer already.

Let's look cautiously/pessimisticallyon what else we could get:

Chalobah - 15mill bare minimum 

Maatsen - 20mill bare minimum

Gilchrist - 10mill bare minimum

Gallagher - 35mill bare minimum

Broja - 15mill bare minimum (leave it alone Hazadous).

 

123mill in pure profit, minus 15mill in FFP loss leave 108mill to cover our costs, and gets rid of 2 huge earners who do nothing for us.

 

I believe we will be fine for FFP concerns.

Love this guy's attitude. Despite everyone slagging him off he's staying positive and knuckling down. Gwan Mykky, you can make it son!

He needs a loan at Frankfurt or a club like that to gain confidence, i can see him being be very good in the Bundesliga with all the space they give in that league.

The lad has good attitude, and that counts a lot. I think a loan will do him good, just forget about the price tag for a while and focus on getting game time. I think he should have got a 15 minutes cameo on the weekend when the opposition was chasing the game and leave open spaces behind, instead we went for 10 men defending, which on another 9/10 occasions we would have lost.

Rather see him spend extra time on the training ground than constantly at the gym. 

41 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Rather see him spend extra time on the training ground than constantly at the gym. 

He likely does, seems to have the work ethic. Issue is he seems to lack the football brain, which is going to be hard to teach.

Might just need that one specific system style and manager to work for him.

7 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

He needs a loan at Frankfurt or a club like that to gain confidence, i can see him being be very good in the Bundesliga with all the space they give in that league.

He could go to Serie A and instantly be the next Rafael Leao.

16 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

BenJacobs suggested that with the sales of our academy players the board aren't bothered on taking a loss on Mudryk. 

I am not even sure that is necessary at the moment.  If he goes to the Bundesliga for a seasons loan, with their high lines he could restore his reputation and value. I don't think he'll ever make it in the PL, doesn't have the football IQ, but a year at Leipzig or Dortmund and we could possibly get closer to his value at some point.

8 hours ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Love this guy's attitude. Despite everyone slagging him off he's staying positive and knuckling down. Gwan Mykky, you can make it son!

Isn't this part of the concern internally at the club. Weren't they concerned that he spends too much time in the gym rather than extra work on the training pitch

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

Isn't this part of the concern internally at the club. Weren't they concerned that he spends too much time in the gym rather than extra work on the training pitch

I've no idea, not seen anything to that effect. Where did you get that from?

9 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He likely does, seems to have the work ethic. Issue is he seems to lack the football brain, which is going to be hard to teach.

Might just need that one specific system style and manager to work for him.

I don't think it is football brain problem. He think he is Neymar/Hazard. 

Edited February 20, 20242 yr by Bob stark

3 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

I am not even sure that is necessary at the moment.  If he goes to the Bundesliga for a seasons loan, with their high lines he could restore his reputation and value. I don't think he'll ever make it in the PL, doesn't have the football IQ, but a year at Leipzig or Dortmund and we could possibly get closer to his value at some point.

He can make it in pl, his skillset is very good already. I don't know whether it is him or his surrounding, but it is like they make him think that he is a superstar. 

5 hours ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

I've no idea, not seen anything to that effect. Where did you get that from?

Think it was on here a while ago. Somebody had refernced it, that he was risking getting muscle issues due to hs additional gym work. I have absolutely no hope of ever finding it in here though.

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

He can make it in pl, his skillset is very good already. I don't know whether it is him or his surrounding, but it is like they make him think that he is a superstar. 

Seen nothing to suggest he can make it here. You have highlighted it yourself on numerous occasions that he doesn't have the football IQ to work in a structured team set up and our league is too competitive for pure luxury players. I see a number of parallels between him and Werner as a wide attacker.

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He likely does, seems to have the work ethic. Issue is he seems to lack the football brain, which is going to be hard to teach.

Might just need that one specific system style and manager to work for him.

Unless he is the in one ear out the other type bloke, it is a concern how some mere fundamentals are lacking. 

In my opinion, Football IQ can't be taught - not in a meaningful way.

Ross the boss is an example of that - a gifted player, experienced with all the tools to kick on - but came across as thick as 2 short planks on the field (and probably off it)

We know my opinions on Mudryk already - i think we need to give him a genuine pressure free run of games between now and the end of the season. Lets get a proper look at him before jumping to conclusions. But if it is an IQ issue, then we are going to struggle .

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

In my opinion, Football IQ can't be taught - not in a meaningful way.

Ross the boss is an example of that - a gifted player, experienced with all the tools to kick on - but came across as thick as 2 short planks on the field (and probably off it)

We know my opinions on Mudryk already - i think we need to give him a genuine pressure free run of games between now and the end of the season. Lets get a proper look at him before jumping to conclusions. But if it is an IQ issue, then we are going to struggle .

I don't think it is iq issue. 

His best performance this season was when basically does everything simple and quickly. 

But this is not what he want to do.  neymar/messi/Hazard doesn't play simple ball, they want to produce magic and Mudryk want to do the same thing. 

 

Edited February 23, 20242 yr by Bob stark

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

In my opinion, Football IQ can't be taught - not in a meaningful way.

Ross the boss is an example of that - a gifted player, experienced with all the tools to kick on - but came across as thick as 2 short planks on the field (and probably off it)

We know my opinions on Mudryk already - i think we need to give him a genuine pressure free run of games between now and the end of the season. Lets get a proper look at him before jumping to conclusions. But if it is an IQ issue, then we are going to struggle .

No such thing as a pressure free run of games here! 

Ship him to serie a or bundesliga. See if that's the making of him. 

 

I am actually quite fond of Mudryk to be honest.

His passing/vision is very good, we don't really get to see much of it because he's trying to be prime Messi instead of playing more like Grealish at City. Maybe a coaching/tactic issue, I find it hard to believe he's just ignoring what the manager says. 

16 hours ago, Remodez said:

I am actually quite fond of Mudryk to be honest.

His passing/vision is very good, we don't really get to see much of it because he's trying to be prime Messi instead of playing more like Grealish at City. Maybe a coaching/tactic issue, I find it hard to believe he's just ignoring what the manager says. 

This is the sad part of Mudryk situation. He has many skill that is impossible to teach and he is good enough to be at least rotational player in PL if he just cut off his superstar wannabe act. 

 

 

Edited February 24, 20242 yr by Bob stark