Poor lad got robbed of a great assist. Thought he was good when he came on yesterday.

52 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Poor lad got robbed of a great assist. Thought he was good when he came on yesterday.

Me too...I was shocked he crossed the ball when he ran down the line.

These kids needed role models, I bet he saw Neto doing it and just said that's easy I can do that. Lol

7 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Poor lad got robbed of a great assist. Thought he was good when he came on yesterday.

He has flashes of quality like that but then the next ball he will pass it out of play 5 yards behind the intended target. Bit of a enigma , not sure if we will ever get any sort of consistency from him.

I have this odd feeling he will improve because of Neto, maybe learn a few things of sancho too.

They ain't much older than the rest of the team but they have experience and some of that I think will rub off on the highly talented lot we have with very little to no experience (not just mudryk).

Already saw mudryk go down the line and "cross" the ball. Which I am very surprised at, lol. Normally he falls over, runs into someone or overshoots and ends up a goal kick or throw in.

Wow, I can't believe that I'm happy because for the first time imo there was a sign of improvement "with a cross" from a 60+mil player...lol

Used perfectly against Bournemouth. Gives me hope! 

My (and probably many others) biggest concern is MM seems to be deep in his head. He expresses everything through his tattoos, posts and hairstyle. 

It seems he thinks he can be Cristiano Ronaldo and he tries to emulate that on and off the pitch. He works out like mad like CR7 have done on Instagram and he takes these ideas from great players and leaders. 

He just isn't willing to be Mudryk who already is physically an amazing player and has all the talent in the world. 

I feel like he is looking himself in games from the sky and as he is deciding either to pass or dribble he thinks what would Cristiano do? And he blows it.

Or he shoots from a good position thinking the shot needs to be 150km/h and exactly in the top most of the corner so it looks like Cristiano is shooting only to sky the ball as the shot itself is massively difficult. 

I think Pochettino did well with him wrapping his hand around Misha's shoulders but he needs to progress and not be so inverted. 

Maresca said he is intelligent so that should help but he needs to use it quick or he will end up as a big flop.

 

I do think the problem is between his ears. He just doesn't seem to be able to play instinctively. He has technical skills and pace but can't put it all together.

He probably needs a really long run of games at a lower level coupled with a long course of sports psychology therapy. 

He's now behind Neto and Sancho so I can't see how he makes the bench let alone the team. Maybe he can fill in on the Conference games for now? Maybe Barrow? It's been a bit sad to watch for a while now but I can't stand the thought of us selling him to Arsenal, or anyone, on the cheap and they then get a tune out of him.

33 minutes ago, evissy said:

My (and probably many others) biggest concern is MM seems to be deep in his head. He expresses everything through his tattoos, posts and hairstyle. 

It seems he thinks he can be Cristiano Ronaldo and he tries to emulate that on and off the pitch. He works out like mad like CR7 have done on Instagram and he takes these ideas from great players and leaders. 

He just isn't willing to be Mudryk who already is physically an amazing player and has all the talent in the world. 

I feel like he is looking himself in games from the sky and as he is deciding either to pass or dribble he thinks what would Cristiano do? And he blows it.

Or he shoots from a good position thinking the shot needs to be 150km/h and exactly in the top most of the corner so it looks like Cristiano is shooting only to sky the ball as the shot itself is massively difficult. 

I think Pochettino did well with him wrapping his hand around Misha's shoulders but he needs to progress and not be so inverted. 

Maresca said he is intelligent so that should help but he needs to use it quick or he will end up as a big flop.

 

Ship has already sailed for me. You don't sign Neto, Felix and Sancho if you have any faith in Mudryk ... 

Genuinely believe the best move for Misha is a Bundesliga or even Strasbourg loan in January for the 2nd half of the season. 
There’s talent there we’ve all seen it, it’s just too inconsistent in being displayed.

A season at Besiktas would be good for building his confidence. The Turkish fans would be really patient and understanding with him.

As for "talent" being there WTF!!!

Perhaps he can play the banjo.

Edited September 18, 20241 yr by just

9 hours ago, evissy said:

My (and probably many others) biggest concern is MM seems to be deep in his head. He expresses everything through his tattoos, posts and hairstyle. 

It seems he thinks he can be Cristiano Ronaldo and he tries to emulate that on and off the pitch. He works out like mad like CR7 have done on Instagram and he takes these ideas from great players and leaders. 

He just isn't willing to be Mudryk who already is physically an amazing player and has all the talent in the world. 

I feel like he is looking himself in games from the sky and as he is deciding either to pass or dribble he thinks what would Cristiano do? And he blows it.

Or he shoots from a good position thinking the shot needs to be 150km/h and exactly in the top most of the corner so it looks like Cristiano is shooting only to sky the ball as the shot itself is massively difficult. 

I think Pochettino did well with him wrapping his hand around Misha's shoulders but he needs to progress and not be so inverted. 

Maresca said he is intelligent so that should help but he needs to use it quick or he will end up as a big flop.

 

Ronaldo knows why he trains the way he does. His training is completely personal to his body.

Mudryk needs to take that philosophy and work out what his body needs rather than mimic Ronaldo.

I feel bad for him even though I’ve been a big critic even before we signed him. It must be difficult to get in the zone when he plays as his homeland is f**ked. The majority of his mates are fighting a war with several killed no doubt. I think I’d struggle to be at my best in those circumstances. I bet he feels guilty that he’s over here rather than defending his country.

If I was Maresca I’d be telling him to get wide and attack the full back and not confuse him too much with tactics.

He looks a much better player when he keeps it simple.

 

4 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

If I was Maresca I’d be telling him to get wide and attack the full back and not confuse him too much with tactics.

I think this is actually the problem, he has been told to do exactly that but for some reason doesn't. All our other wingers do it, except Mudryk who for some reason insists on dropping deep into spaces.

Honestly we are using him wrong put him in a counter attacking team where his job is to use his pace and low cross or easy pass to striker and he probably shines simple as that he doesn't suit possession football

 

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/exclusive-chelsea-ready-to-axe-mudryk-and-three-more-in-january-with-maresca-fire-sale-to-continue

he will go to Arsenal on loan, we will pay all of his wages and he will turn into Robben and win them the league

12 minutes ago, POCH OUT said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/exclusive-chelsea-ready-to-axe-mudryk-and-three-more-in-january-with-maresca-fire-sale-to-continue

he will go to Arsenal on loan, we will pay all of his wages and he will turn into Robben and win them the league

They already have Sterling on loan.. 

I think there is a good chance he will leave on loan in January. It will be interesting whether we add an option to buy.

I can't see any scenario where the club don't take a loss on this. It's like Pepe at Arsenal. Mudryk's remaining book value would be £43m next summer (no way in hell he achieved any of his add ons). 

I think we will likely see Mudryk go on loan season after season to run down his book value until a club buy him, or a Saudi club comes in. 

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I can't see any scenario where the club don't take a loss on this. It's like Pepe at Arsenal. Mudryk's remaining book value would be £43m next summer (no way in hell he achieved any of his add ons). 

I think we will likely see Mudryk go on loan season after season to run down his book value until a club buy him, or a Saudi club comes in. 

Sell him to Saudi dor 25mill and accept the loss. 

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I can't see any scenario where the club don't take a loss on this. It's like Pepe at Arsenal. Mudryk's remaining book value would be £43m next summer (no way in hell he achieved any of his add ons). 

I think we will likely see Mudryk go on loan season after season to run down his book value until a club buy him, or a Saudi club comes in. 

100% loan to Germany, loan to Portugal, loan to Turkey for two years then he goes. 

12 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Sell him to Saudi dor 25mill and accept the loss. 

Clearlake won't take a loss. They'll loan him out for a few years until they can make a book value profit on him. 

Or, in the very rare scenario, Mudryk actually becomes a competent footballer. 

3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Clearlake won't take a loss. They'll loan him out for a few years until they can make a book value profit on him. 

Or, in the very rare scenario, Mudryk actually becomes a competent footballer. 

Aye....he is one of the first example we are seeing getting his career put down the toilet by the long contract/big fee. Had it been spread over 5 years his value would be a fair bit less 

This is good news though...especially if it is marseille (as in the link below) 

3 hours ago, POCH OUT said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/exclusive-chelsea-ready-to-axe-mudryk-and-three-more-in-january-with-maresca-fire-sale-to-continue

 

Best case scenario he increases his value and we sell him. I think most of us agree there's talent there but the PL may not be for him. If he can show off in one of those leagues across the channel and do well we can hopefully sell him without too much of a loss, maybe even a profit (profit!, lol, only joking)

52 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Clearlake won't take a loss. They'll loan him out for a few years until they can make a book value profit on him. 

Or, in the very rare scenario, Mudryk actually becomes a competent footballer. 

This too...and I really think one of the European leagues will actually do him good. PL is just too fast for him and/or it's a mental block of some type. He has potential but just not for the PL imho. 

I think him being off in January is actually a good thing and hope it happens and I'd even wish him well. 

 

Now the disaster brothers (also in the link)

Give them away if needs be. I don't mind paying their wages to not wear the shirt. Lol

 

1 hour ago, Simplymo said:

 

 

Now the disaster brothers (also in the link)

Give them away if needs be. I don't mind paying their wages to not wear the shirt. Lol

 

Throw in Tosin and you have the three stooges, all sh*t

On 20/09/2024 at 01:04, axman2526 said:

Aye....he is one of the first example we are seeing getting his career put down the toilet by the long contract/big fee. Had it been spread over 5 years his value would be a fair bit less 

Mudryk case will be interesting. He is a goner and that without Paez n estevao coming next season. Can we move him? 

He is probably on 100k, forget recouping his transfer fee because that is not happening but can we get something close to his book value? 

Edited September 24, 20241 yr by Bob stark

On 19/09/2024 at 20:23, POCH OUT said:

Throw in Tosin and you have the three stooges, all sh*t

Why the Tosin hate? He played well on Saturday and think he's growing into the role. Also a free transfer and on about £90k a week salary...