If we could buy more carefully within this existing model it would be far easier to sell players within this model.

I doubt we would see a flurry of decent performing players flogged as soon as they were "in profit" the owners would be too greedy for that.

The entire world knows we will buy anything with some good data against the individual. 

Maresca in binning half the squad shows his inexperience, now he's bringing them back starting with Trev.

The owners are happy to spend money on players and we have loads not to mention the loan squad - which could easily operate around mid table in the prem. In their own right.

Have the more recent time incoming players been better than previous? The fact that there was relatively so little activity in January was a plus.

The position we need filling most, above a striker is someone sane to prevent the continuation of the squad imbalance we currently have.

 

 

9 hours ago, Jangz said:

A lot of it makes sense till you think about what the Chelsea brand is .. they paid 4£ billion for a brand not just assets . They with their actions are killing the brand - Brighton lost 7-0 the other day, doesn’t mean much but for Chelsea that’s a disaster. 
 

This model ensures survival not trophies. A business sees exponential returns if you scale top line and not optimise bottom line- unless of course you are a PE firm which strips a company of everything.

what clearlake are doing is exactly that - we should be very worried they will extract their pound of flesh even if it comes at whatever cost.

we passed on Olisie in the summer - he wasn’t a world class player but a good premier league player - the kind of transfer we would do in a jiffy and not even think about it . That for me is a big big red flag.. 

we can always argue for both sides but facts show what they truly are.. 

That’s not true, he rejected us as he wanted to play CL football. Don’t blame him. 

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

That’s not true, he rejected us as he wanted to play CL football. Don’t blame him. 

A lot of media picked up on it -

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/olise-chelsea-fc-man-utd-city-bids-transfer-news-crystal-palace-b1166129.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5589184/2024/06/26/chelsea-wages-michael-olise/#:~:text=But Chelsea's decision to withdraw,in excess of £1billion).

 

could be a bit of both.. but certainly we werent willing to pay top dollar is one of the major reasons.

He rejected us and we wouldn't of matched the £220kpw Bayern offered either. Stupid really.

My issue is that we could of gotten him for £40m the season prior had we done things ethically. 

I blame Kenyon

10 minutes ago, Qaz said:

I blame Kenyon

To think we used to give that guy some sh*t back then, blimey!

For once, a 22 year old didn't want a 8 year contract, shame on him 😅 Of course, CL was probably the biggest blocker, if he wanted to join us, could have done it a couple of seasons ago.

If we are going to build on this youth model, these 2 should and need to do a much smarter job. Buy a bunch of youth for 15-20M and never good enough to play for the team, is not going to raise re-sell values. I'm not even going to get into the Felix deal.

I dont mind the project it's great we building for the future however I don't really in my heart believe half these players are top club quality. On what advice or criteria were they chosen?

4 hours ago, Loyalblue said:

I dont mind the project it's great we building for the future however I don't really in my heart believe half these players are top club quality. On what advice or criteria were they chosen?

NO its a stupid project, stop this rubbish no buying over 24

Ok I will let them know

12 hours ago, Loyalblue said:

I dont mind the project it's great we building for the future however I don't really in my heart believe half these players are top club quality. On what advice or criteria were they chosen?

Seems like it was entirely based on data analytics rather than actually watching them play, like scouting used to work. It is fine to invest in some potential, but you are likely to find more players that fail to fulfill their potential, than those that succeed. That is why a strategy based entirely on young players with potential is unlikely to help us build a better team.

4 hours ago, forbzy said:

Seems like it was entirely based on data analytics rather than actually watching them play, like scouting used to work. It is fine to invest in some potential, but you are likely to find more players that fail to fulfill their potential, than those that succeed. That is why a strategy based entirely on young players with potential is unlikely to help us build a better team.

We've doing that for ages though. It was Emenalo and Granovskaia who first cut the number of scouts we had in favour of an analytics-based approach, doubling down on the approach in 2019. Analytics identified the targets, and only then scouts were sent to watch them. Since Emenalo and Arnesen were brought in, we have always had sporting directors who identified young talents for long-term investment, rather than purely based on what the manager wanted/needed at the time. None of that has substantially changed, and signings like Palmer, Sancho, Caicedo, Estevao, Paez and Fernandez were not identified by analytics, but by scouting. A closer look reveals that many of our reported targets and signings (Madueke, Sancho, Palmer, Bynoe-Gittins, Olise etc...) are all well-known English academy products from its most recent 'golden generation'.

The real issue is that the club continue to believe that these products will simply develop in a vacuum, devoid of any real coaching, competition or active management. Like a computer game, they expect these players to simple be programmed to reach their potential as they age with no extraneous effort. Of course, great players are shaped and formed and mentored by senior, experienced professionals and coaches who set the standard through leadership and a culture of success. We absolutely do not have that and unfortunately our upper management do not believe it is necessary. Who will help Estevao settle in London? Who will stand up for him when he is kicked off the park? Who will model professional training habits to a pampered generational talent like Kendry Paez? I think we are signing very talented players on paper, but we do not have the framework to help them come close to their potential.

5 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

We've doing that for ages though. It was Emenalo and Granovskaia who first cut the number of scouts we had in favour of an analytics-based approach, doubling down on the approach in 2019. Analytics identified the targets, and only then scouts were sent to watch them. Since Emenalo and Arnesen were brought in, we have always had sporting directors who identified young talents for long-term investment, rather than purely based on what the manager wanted/needed at the time. None of that has substantially changed, and signings like Palmer, Sancho, Caicedo, Estevao, Paez and Fernandez were not identified by analytics, but by scouting. A closer look reveals that many of our reported targets and signings (Madueke, Sancho, Palmer, Bynoe-Gittins, Olise etc...) are all well-known English academy products from its most recent 'golden generation'.

The real issue is that the club continue to believe that these products will simply develop in a vacuum, devoid of any real coaching, competition or active management. Like a computer game, they expect these players to simple be programmed to reach their potential as they age with no extraneous effort. Of course, great players are shaped and formed and mentored by senior, experienced professionals and coaches who set the standard through leadership and a culture of success. We absolutely do not have that and unfortunately our upper management do not believe it is necessary. Who will help Estevao settle in London? Who will stand up for him when he is kicked off the park? Who will model professional training habits to a pampered generational talent like Kendry Paez? I think we are signing very talented players on paper, but we do not have the framework to help them come close to their potential.

Spot on. Great post.

14 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Who will help Estevao settle in London? Who will stand up for him when he is kicked off the park?

Levi is always up for a fight 😅

Day 830 since the arrival.

c**ts.

You know I'm starting to think we should take a look at our goalkeeper recruitment

21 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

You know I'm starting to think we should take a look at our goalkeeper recruitment

Should put Ben Robert in the title too.

A faked it until he made it story.

Given we’ve got all these “data” guys and goalkeeper specialists, I’m amazed the best we could come up with is Jorgensen. It’s shocking.

I can forgive Bohley with the early signings like Sterling, Kouliabaly etc as it was early days. However we’re 2 years down the line now and our recruitment has been SO bad. Outside of Palmer, has anyone had any outstanding impact? Most of them are pretty average.

14 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Given we’ve got all these “data” guys and goalkeeper specialists, I’m amazed the best we could come up with is Jorgensen. It’s shocking.

I can forgive Bohley with the early signings like Sterling, Kouliabaly etc as it was early days. However we’re 2 years down the line now and our recruitment has been SO bad. Outside of Palmer, has anyone had any outstanding impact? Most of them are pretty average.

Only Joe Shields’ signings and he’s technically beneath the directors.

Tbe Musk and Trump of Premeir League.

They run a club with EIGHT keepers on the books, and none are good enough?

12 minutes ago, ross91690 said:

Tbe Musk and Trump of Premeir League.

They run a club with EIGHT keepers on the books, and none are good enough?

Not sure why you’re brining politics into it, strange comparison, since those two tend to make a lot of common sense decisions, unlike the Starmer dystopia we’re enjoying over here. Chelsea now is more akin to Joe Biden stumbling and tumbling around with Kamala.

Get these c**ts out of my club

I actually mentioned on Teamtalk I would not select Jorgensen ahead of Sanchez after his last game , the question is if a nobody like me could see that why can't Maresca? Why not bring Petrovic back, he seemed the best of the lot .

On 23/02/2025 at 01:37, ross91690 said:

Tbe Musk and Trump of Premeir League.

They run a club with EIGHT keepers on the books, and none are good enough?

Musk and Trump are far more talented and intelligent just lacking in a bit of wisdom

Stewart and Winstanley have apparently identified the new "Ederson" at Brazilian club Santos to solve our GK problem and are preparing a £50m + Deivid Washington offer for him.

Here is a YouTube clip of him in action :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCWgwYDF80

Edited February 25, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball