If he goes, I think Sarri would be the option to go for.

2 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

 

 

To be fair Alonso has been in red hot form and Emerson is still building his fitness, remember he played twice in a year before joining us.

I have liked his games so far but I don't think he has been game changing for us. I won't hold that against Conte.

 

Red hot form, im not sure about that. I can't argue goals wise but his all round play has been disappointing this year, the goals does paper over everything else.

39 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Simeone is not better? LOL. The 2 time CL finalist on a sh*t budget, putting in young players like Koke, saul is not a better manager? 

Sure.

Good for him, but what he is done in Premier League ??? Also in Atletico there is zero preasure on him. Whether he finish 10, whether he get kicked in the group stage in CL and also how his team is playing.

He is not under pressure that first bad season his head will go down. There is no expectation for him. That`s a huge difference. There is a lot of good managers like that, but they can`t do well in big team, that try to challenge every season for trophies.

He can integrate young players on the team pretty easy, because he know he won`t be sacked.

Conte is not the problem Chelsea are not integrate young player, not that we have some great young players at the moment to be fair. Neither is the previous manager. When the board require fastest possible result and you know your head will go down, no one will go and try to integrate young players. That is the truth.

And there is exactly 0 chance that Simeone will come to us. He have safe job there, why would he would change it to come here? He also have solid team there and will play CL football next year, unlike here.

We also are not spending big anymore or if we spend will be for quanity.

Why would he, when everyone knows Chelsea manager life span is 1-2 year at best.

 

Edited April 23, 20188 yr by brakeit

So since Messi has done nothing in PL, that makes him a worse player than Aaron lennon. 

I mean seriously? Simeone is not a better manager than conte because he has done anything in PL. Thats got to be the funniest thing i have read.

ATM are 2nd in la liga ahead of RM. He took a bang average ATM and made them into La liga winners and 2 time CL finalists.

Did not conte get burned out of CL with juve and threw his toys out of the pram and leave juve, because he did not "get his players". And did not the same Juve end up reaching the CL finals right after that. 

Did the ATM board come to you and tell you about the expectations of their club? Stop spouting nonsense.

Its not about if Simeone will come to us or not. Its about giving a great manager his due. Simeone's acheivements far outweigh Conte's.

Edited April 23, 20188 yr by didierforever

I really don’t want Simeone. I’m sick of defensive football!

Simeone and Allegri are on another level to Conte, Simeone won La Liga and got to the champions league final in the same season losing out to a 93min goal, Simeone is class and over a long number of years has earned the right to have a bad year. Out of interest because I don't know but has Simeone ever slagged off the board and transfers as much as Conte in one season and giving so many indications he doesn't want to stay? 

On 4/20/2018 at 16:07, dkw said:

Some embarrassing stuff being written in here, I suppose brakeit is right though, how can conte hope to beat the likes of Bournemouth and West ham at home when only being allowed to sign 5 or 6 international players, the poor sod. 

You use the term international players quite liberally.. Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Emerson, Caballero, Bakayoko barely feature for their countries. 

Morata is the only one who has significant stats with his national team and even his participation with Spain is not guaranteed.

On 4/21/2018 at 13:21, mclovin83 said:

"you people"  Haha

"spent a bit...... on crap" 

Were you saying Morata & Bakayoko were crap when we signed them? I bet you weren't. 

Shock, horror- we sold some players as we endeavour to break even and be a sustainable business model. 

However much you huff and puff, nothing changes the fact that only Man City spent more than us. 

 

 

Maybe no one was saying those buys were sh*t but were you saying we were better with Morata and Bakayoko than Costa and Matic?

Edited April 23, 20188 yr by Saaladin

Big difference, but you are not reading, what i write. Look again at the column " working at pressure" and "no pressure at you when you not have good season".

And Conte is 4 time league Champion. He took Juvetnus team at 2 years at 7th place and made them 3 time Champions in a row, done the same with us, but we was 10th.

Want to see Simeone done that.

And yeah he was in 2 CL final, but didn`t win one.

Call it lack of luck.

 

1 minute ago, Saaladin said:

You use the term international players quite liberally.. Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Emerson, Caballero, Bakayoko barely feature for their countries. 

Morata is the only one who has significant stats with his national team and even his participation with Spain is not guaranteed.

So they are internationals then, as I stated.

1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

Oh, OK.  Exact quotes of what the man said, but you have either a crystal ball or an online lie-detector,  so you know it's not true?  Yeah, Ok.

When someone says honour the contract, that is easily explained by he wants to get paid until it finishes. He isn't going to quit

If someone said I want to manage here next year and the year after and build a legacy then it means they want to stay.

He isn't saying that 

 

1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

I'm not sure about Conte, if I'm honest, but I find it interesting that the majority of the posters in here seem to want him gone, whilst the majority of the actual match-going fans sing his name loud and proud, every match, regardless of whether we are winning or losing.

I've said many times before.  Support the team and the manager.   That is all.

I want him gone because he wants to be gone. I'd sing his name at the ground because back the team and the manager.

The team don't read this forum

 

14 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Lining up in a 3-4-1-2, I give you a team totally made up of players that have joined our squad since Conte was appointed coach ... it looks like a pretty decent line up to me, so I don't buy all this dialogue about the board being sh*t at transfers and handing Conte a squad full of crap ...

Caballero

Rudiger, Luiz, Christensen

Zappacosta, Kante, Drinkwater/Bakayoko, Emerson/Alonso

Barkley

Morata, Giroud

Great now compare that with the players top teams buy and see how it looks.

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

So they are internationals then, as I stated.

Ya you stated a fact... and lost the argument because of it.

We seem to have turned a corner.

11 minutes ago, brakeit said:

Big difference, but you are not reading, what i write. Look again at the column " working at pressure" and "no pressure at you when you not have good season".

And Conte is 4 time league Champion. He took Juvetnus team at 2 years at 7th place and made them 3 time Champions in a row, done the same with us, but we was 10th.

Want to see Simeone done that.

And yeah he was in 2 CL final, but didn`t win one.

Call it lack of luck.

 

The 10th sh*t gets boring, the team was better than 10th, jusg because you finish 10th doesn't mean the squad was 10th quality. I would like to see Conte take Athletico to the league title and the champions league final in the same season against big boys like Real and Barca, no chance. 

37 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Simeone and Allegri are on another level to Conte, Simeone won La Liga and got to the champions league final in the same season losing out to a 93min goal, Simeone is class and over a long number of years has earned the right to have a bad year. Out of interest because I don't know but has Simeone ever slagged off the board and transfers as much as Conte in one season and giving so many indications he doesn't want to stay? 

Hardly.

ALL are good managers. Difference is , Conte has already proved he can also do it in the PL. The others may well do, but equally like many before them, they could well fail. Difficult to judge Simeone until he takes on a fresh challenge, rather than stay at Athletico where there isn't anything like the pressure to win anything.

 

7 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Hardly.

ALL are good managers. Difference is , Conte has already proved he can also do it in the PL. The others may well do, but equally like many before them, they could well fail. Difficult to judge Simeone until he takes on a fresh challenge, rather than stay at Athletico where there isn't anything like the pressure to win anything.

 

Well that's talking about the PL, I'm talking about in general. I could say Simeone is better because he has La Liga experience. I'm just saying i think they are both better managers, not that I want them as manager of Chelsea, after Mourinho and Conte I want something different.

Hardly.
ALL are good managers. Difference is , Conte has already proved he can also do it in the PL. The others may well do, but equally like many before them, they could well fail. Difficult to judge Simeone until he takes on a fresh challenge, rather than stay at Athletico where there isn't anything like the pressure to win anything.
 

Not sure how this turned into Conte v Simeone but if Simeone is virtually the best available manager in the summer and we're debating whether he is better than what we have now, then there is an argument for us to keep what we have. Particularly given Simeone is very unlikely to be available.

This is my thing. We could change managers but is what is out there better? Not sure. I'd prefer we actually improved the squad and went again with Antonio IF (and this seems a big if) he wants to stay and the players are still behind him staying.

The passion is still there. 

Like I said a few days ago, if, and granted it is a big IF, Conte can resolve his difference with the board then I do think he's still more than capable of being in charge next season. 

He's a good coach and a good tactician. He's got his short fallings like any manager but his good points more often than not outweigh the bad. 

There's no question in my mind that should he leave he'll continue to be a successful manager because he's demonstrated at Chelsea and Juventus he more than capable. 

I'm just struggling to get excited at the prospect of any of the rumoured coaches coming to Chelsea because it just sounds like a continuation of our boom or bust style appointments. I'd be happy to see an attempt at a less chaotic approach to our managerial appointments. 

24 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

The passion is still there. 

Like I said a few days ago, if, and granted it is a big IF, Conte can resolve his difference with the board then I do think he's still more than capable of being in charge next season. 

He's a good coach and a good tactician. He's got his short fallings like any manager but his good points more often than not outweigh the bad. 

There's no question in my mind that should he leave he'll continue to be a successful manager because he's demonstrated at Chelsea and Juventus he more than capable. 

I'm just struggling to get excited at the prospect of any of the rumoured coaches coming to Chelsea because it just sounds like a continuation of our boom or bust style appointments. I'd be happy to see an attempt at a less chaotic approach to our managerial appointments. 

But the Conte haters will have you believing he's a cardboard cutout on the sideline and has been sabotaging the season and simply pouting day in and day out while not doing his job!?

 

 

4 minutes ago, Saaladin said:

But the Conte haters will have you believing he's a cardboard cutout on the sideline and has been sabotaging the season and simply pouting day in and day out while not doing his job!?

Well for about six weeks after the new year, he was. 

His press conference were stinking up the joint and his general demeanor was awful. 

As I said, he hasn't been without his faults this season and he deserves his share of criticism. 

But. All said and done he was dealt a bad hand by the board regarding transfers this season and those that were signed have largely under-performed. 

He's just guided us to a consecutive FA Cup final which isn't something to be sniffed at and I just think with a few changes to his approach, the squad and the board's transfer policy/expectations I think Conte would be able to get us back on track next season. 

14 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

For those who were there today, what was the support like for him? Sounded mixed when he took off Willian for Bakayoko but I could hear his name being sung at the end.

As I said yesterday it'll be very interesting what happens if we win the FA Cup. Be tough for the club to sack him and if we are investing in the right areas in the summer I have no doubt we would improve with him as the coach.

If we can't get Simeone or Allegri I'm not convinced the other candidates are better.

We all sang his name a couple of times. And he applauded back to the fans. It’s been like this in most matches at the Bridge too.

1 hour ago, benjsross said:

When someone says honour the contract, that is easily explained by he wants to get paid until it finishes. He isn't going to quit

If someone said I want to manage here next year and the year after and build a legacy then it means they want to stay.

He isn't saying that 

 

Getting a payoff of several millions  if/when he is sacked is also honouring the contract. So it's an ambivalent statement.

 

2 hours ago, Saaladin said:

You use the term international players quite liberally.. Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Emerson, Caballero, Bakayoko barely feature for their countries. 

Morata is the only one who has significant stats with his national team and even his participation with Spain is not guaranteed.

it's f**king bournemouth and west ham for christ sake. not to mention drawing to leicester at home and also drawing at home to a weakened arsenal side without ozil, sanchez and wilshere. embarrassing all around really and we had the quality to beat all those teams at home.