5 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Haha, there is something there but it lacks passing and pace.  May I recommend adding Drinkwater and Zappacosta to address those gaps?

I like your thinking! All we need to top it off is Kenedy at left back. Should work an absolute treat. 

Wouldve fallen to pieces being pressed last night. 

Sell asap. His value drops every window.

We've got dumb and dumber as centrebacks, a dwarf in goal, Marcos Alonso and Emerson as our left backs, and people want to bring Bakayoko back? Is there a conspriracy to make Chelsea fans commit suicide on this forum by any chance? 

7 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Haha, there is something there but it lacks passing and pace.  May I recommend adding Drinkwater and Zappacosta to address those gaps?

Drinkwater was  a perfectly decent Premiership level player, but then he joined us and  sat back and watched his career go down the tiolet.  I'd love to know how and why it all fell away so quickly for him.

3 hours ago, Dixon said:

Drinkwater was  a perfectly decent Premiership level player, but then he joined us and  sat back and watched his career go down the tiolet.  I'd love to know how and why it all fell away so quickly for him.

My educated prediction is that Leicester's title win made him believe he arrived at the top level and that was only further confirmed in his mind when we signed him. When he was frozen out with us i think he just couldn't be arsed with the grind of mid table football anymore after getting that taste of the high life.

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by Argo

1 hour ago, Argo said:

My educated prediction is that Leicester's title win made him believe he arrived at the top level and that was only further confirmed in his mind when we signed him. When he was frozen out with us i think he just couldn't be arsed with the grind of mid table football anymore after getting that taste of the high life.

Yikes, sounds about right.

Was going to ask for my 10 minutes back having to go back 3 pages to find out why the baka thread was poppin but it ended up being a good laugh haha 

Bring back Baka and Zappa!

On 23/07/2020 at 23:05, Dixon said:

Drinkwater was  a perfectly decent Premiership level player, but then he joined us and  sat back and watched his career go down the tiolet.  I'd love to know how and why it all fell away so quickly for him.

Didn’t live up to his name and started to consume the devils water instead. 

21 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Didn’t live up to his name and started to consume the devils water instead. 

Drinkwater turned to Drinkwvodka instead

On 24/07/2020 at 02:50, Argo said:

My educated prediction is that Leicester's title win made him believe he arrived at the top level and that was only further confirmed in his mind when we signed him. When he was frozen out with us i think he just couldn't be arsed with the grind of mid table football anymore after getting that taste of the high life.

Could well be that.  Some sportsmen/women just lose their ambition and drive once they've achieved something special. In this day and age they only have to slack off a bit to fall very quickly. Even the amazing Ronaldinhio's career fell away quickly once he lost that bit of drive. 

 

Edited July 25, 20205 yr by Dixon

I think Baka could do well in a midtable team where is not under too much pressure,

On 24/07/2020 at 06:05, Dixon said:

Drinkwater was  a perfectly decent Premiership level player, but then he joined us and  sat back and watched his career go down the tiolet.  I'd love to know how and why it all fell away so quickly for him.

It's a performance-based business.  The moment he stopped performing well, the road back would steep and he lost to alcoholism in the end. 

There must be a good player somewhere in Bakayoko, after all he was pretty good for Monaco. But I get the feeling that he’d only do well in a certain system, maybe as a deep defensive midfielder and obviously it’s not worth changing the whole system just to fit Bakayoko in.

I’d say we should keep loaning him out until he rediscovers his Monaco form and then sell him.

2 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

There must be a good player somewhere in Bakayoko, after all he was pretty good for Monaco. But I get the feeling that he’d only do well in a certain system, maybe as a deep defensive midfielder and obviously it’s not worth changing the whole system just to fit Bakayoko in.

I’d say we should keep loaning him out until he rediscovers his Monaco form and then sell him.

This summer is the last opportunity of getting a fee for him as his contract ends in 2022. Will be interesting to see what we do.

10 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

There must be a good player somewhere in Bakayoko, after all he was pretty good for Monaco. But I get the feeling that he’d only do well in a certain system, maybe as a deep defensive midfielder and obviously it’s not worth changing the whole system just to fit Bakayoko in.

I’d say we should keep loaning him out until he rediscovers his Monaco form and then sell him.

He wasn't that good for Monaco. He was average. It's not that hard when you have Mbappe as striker, Lemar at the left wing, Silva at the right, Fabinho sweeping up for you and Moutinho to guide you. 

You just need a certain level of physique and the pace to play at top level. 

On 26/07/2020 at 09:19, dansubrosa said:

There must be a good player somewhere in Bakayoko, after all he was pretty good for Monaco. But I get the feeling that he’d only do well in a certain system, maybe as a deep defensive midfielder and obviously it’s not worth changing the whole system just to fit Bakayoko in.

I’d say we should keep loaning him out until he rediscovers his Monaco form and then sell him.

That's a myth. He was never very good for Monaco, it was the players around him that were good. I remember watching him that season when people were saying he was having a good season, and I just couldn't see anything about him that was good. His performance in the Champions League against Juventus that year was a sign of what was to come. He was well out of his depth.

Can’t believe some people are even contemplating Baka being given another try. He is probably the worst player I have ever seen put on a Chelsea shirt. And if not the worst player, then certainly he wins the award for the worst ever individual performance in a game (Watford). I said at the time, he looks like a confused goat when playing, and seemed to have no idea of wtf was going on, why he was there or what he was meant to be doing. 
 

 

4 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Can’t believe some people are even contemplating Baka being given another try. He is probably the worst player I have ever seen put on a Chelsea shirt. And if not the worst player, then certainly he wins the award for the worst ever individual performance in a game (Watford). I said at the time, he looks like a confused goat when playing, and seemed to have no idea of wtf was going on, why he was there or what he was meant to be doing. 
 

 

You're probably being a bit unkind to confused goats ... 🙂

 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

 

As CarefreeYouth pointed out on Twitter, this is a little disingenuous from Milan. Bakayoko has 2 years left on his contract, so they'll never pick up that option. Chelsea will want an "obligation" which is likely to be less... but guaranteed. 

Nobody is buying Bakayoko, best thing we can do is get him out on a loan until his contract is up, same with Drinkwater. 

1 hour ago, Skinnedy said:

As CarefreeYouth pointed out on Twitter, this is a little disingenuous from Milan. Bakayoko has 2 years left on his contract, so they'll never pick up that option. Chelsea will want an "obligation" which is likely to be less... but guaranteed. 

Good call, or make Baka sign a new deal before we accept such an offer

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

Nobody is buying Bakayoko, best thing we can do is get him out on a loan until his contract is up, same with Drinkwater. 

I wonder how close in that case, with loan fees and other teams paying his wages, we would come to getting our money back on him. Bet it would be close.

24 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

I wonder how close in that case, with loan fees and other teams paying his wages, we would come to getting our money back on him. Bet it would be close.

I think best we could hope for is about half. Figure €3M in loan fees across 3 years, then get €10-15M on a sale. 

I dont think a sale for him is out of the question. He was really good for AC Milan and has evidently said he'd take a pay cut to sign a new contract. 

I'll actually be a little surprised if we can't get a few for him. 

 

15 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Good call, or make Baka sign a new deal before we accept such an offer

2 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Ah come on Munk. Dont you fancy the chance to break this season's defensive record with Baka and Drinkwater in front of Kepa and our defence? Lol