Quite a few media outlets reporting we've opened talks with Dortmund over the transfer of Jadon Sancho.

Think Chelsea have set up a strategy to go aggressively after targets early as opposed to wait until the summer and get drowned out alongside the chasing pack. 

27 minutes ago, Imran_CFC said:

Quite a few media outlets reporting we've opened talks with Dortmund over the transfer of Jadon Sancho.

Think Chelsea have set up a strategy to go aggressively after targets early as opposed to wait until the summer and get drowned out alongside the chasing pack. 

Lets hope that this tactic works !!!

Why the f**k we do not negotiate when we are supposed to? Feels like we do deals when the windows are shut. A new Chelsea way.. No complaints if it works but it is unusual. If Marina pulls this off hats off to her once again.

Hard to negotiate from a position of 'listen we aren't allowed to sign anyone but MAYBE....'

1 hour ago, evissy said:

Why the f**k we do not negotiate when we are supposed to? Feels like we do deals when the windows are shut. A new Chelsea way.. No complaints if it works but it is unusual. If Marina pulls this off hats off to her once again.

Because it seems difficult with loads of clubs being active at once going for the same players.

I actually think this is a clever way of doing it, as the negotiating teams aren't distracted so a deal can be reached much quicker and efficiently.

Just about to start in CL against PSG. Interesting to see him play.

Dortmund plays a lot like us. Prone to ca and very high press. Sancho really is a great talent.

Still don't believe our board has any intention of trying to get him,to much money needed.

Clear that he stands out even at this level. Dortmund are so well set up to maximise his talent too. Great covering midfielders in Can and Witsel. Protection of the 5 defenders behind. Means Sancho, Hazard and Haaland can do their thing while still being stable against the counter. 

13 hours ago, Bluesince66 said:

Still don't believe our board has any intention of trying to get him,to much money needed.

we have more than enough money to go after him. Especially after selling more players in the summer

For me he is the most obvious player to sign along with Werner to bolster our attack, with plenty of years ahead of them. Add in Ziyech, a fit Pulisic, CHO and RLC and that is some top talent in the squad. Those along with a better keeper and a left back and we are good to go.

We need to move on players like Bats, Dave, Emerson, Willian and Pedro, for me they aren't good enough for us anymore. 

Edited February 19, 20206 yr by Malcolm9

I think the fee is way too high. He's a good player and all, but let's not forget that Batshuayi scored 7 goals in 10 apps for Dortmund. He's f**king abysmal with us. For that money I feel it's a risk.

When you spend that money to strengthen in other key areas it's less of a risk than spending so much on solely one player who may not be any better for us than Hudson-Odoi, Ziyech or Pulisic may be. 

Edited February 19, 20206 yr by enigma

1 hour ago, driller97 said:

we have more than enough money to go after him. Especially after selling more players in the summer

I know we have the money,but spending that much on one player,I don't think our marina,who does a great job would feel it's a viable option,especially if you can get 2 players for there abouts for the price.

23 minutes ago, Bluesince66 said:

I know we have the money,but spending that much on one player,I don't think our marina,who does a great job would feel it's a viable option,especially if you can get 2 players for there abouts for the price.

we spent 75m on a goalkeeper though? Its more about the value than the money if you ask me. If Marina can envision Sancho living upto the hype, and staying with us for a long time (given that hes only 19) then he can more than make up that money.

Kepa was thought to do the same, and it didnt turn out as expected - but thats a different story

However excessive the price may seem, if signing Sancho is something we can make happen, it's almost a no-brainer. Considering his age, both the height and breadth of his abilities, as well as his nationality, he is on paper someone with the potential to be as important to us as Hazard.

The only sticking point for me is that this is the only area (other than right back) in which the squad isn't in desperate need of reinforcement or improvement. I admit I have no idea what our transfer budget is looking like for the summer, but I'd be loath to spend our entire budget on an area which doesn't need it, however impressive the talent, as badly as others.

There is no question as to whether Sancho would be an improvement on what we currently have in his position - he absolutely would be. If signing him means that we are unable to effectively manage the necessary flux in the rest of the squad (and bear in mind this could extend to goalkeeper, left back, centre back, centre midfield, centre forward), I would be more reluctant to do it.

I'm sure all of this is moot anyway - there must be at least ten other clubs who would be more attractive to him at the current time - including the one he already plays for.

2 hours ago, enigma said:

I think the fee is way too high. He's a good player and all, but let's not forget that Batshuayi scored 7 goals in 10 apps for Dortmund. He's f**king abysmal with us. For that money I feel it's a risk.

When you spend that money to strengthen in other key areas it's less of a risk than spending so much on solely one player who may not be any better for us than Hudson-Odoi, Ziyech or Pulisic may be. 

Sancho has 13 goals and 13 assists this season in the German league. Last year he had 12 and 14. 

Don't compare him to batshuyai. He's a different level. 

Edited February 19, 20206 yr by bisright1

Who would we be competing with for his signature?  Assuming we are willing to pay the transfer fee and his wages

Man Utd - If he is a Chelsea fan and good mates with CHO I can't see him choosing them over us.
Man City - This ban is probably going to put a lot of big players off.
Liverpool -  I don't think they are looking for another winger, but I could be wrong.
Real Madrid & Barca - If they have the money they are both an option.
PSG - If the lad has any ambition he should stay clear, but they do have the money to make the transfer happen.
Bayern - I don't think they will spend the money
Juve -  Could be a good option given the new competition from Inter.
Inter - An outside chance but I don't they would be in the race.

For me Real, Barca, and PSG will be the main competition that could beat us to his signature.  

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Sancho has 13 goals and 13 assists this season in the German league. Last year he had 12 and 14. 

Don't compare him to batshuyai. He's a different level. 

I'm saying it's easy for a mediocre striker to score goals in Bundesliga. 

9 hours ago, Bluesince66 said:

I know we have the money,but spending that much on one player,I don't think our marina,who does a great job would feel it's a viable option,especially if you can get 2 players for there abouts for the price.

Liverpool spent 80 mil on VVD, we spent same on Bakayoko and Drinkwater, we got two players they got one, but who got the best deal? 

1 hour ago, chi blue said:

Liverpool spent 80 mil on VVD, we spent same on Bakayoko and Drinkwater, we got two players they got one, but who got the best deal? 

I understand what your saying and I agree,I would love to have Sancho here,I hope that's how the board feel,I'm not so sure they would at the price.

They should pull out all the stops imo. With Pulisic, Sancho, Ziyech, RLC, Mount and CHO, we may finally have a creative attack force.

If we can sign someone like Ndidi, our midfield will be solid again. Having Kova, Kante and Jorginho gave us a good base. Just need to add more bite since RLC should be played more as an AM imo to help his longevity in the sport. We just need to have a midfield that can link attack to defense with a bit of bite. Barkley is done for me at the very top unless he steps up to a new level which is hardly the case.

Defense-wise, we need to refurbish it. Get a good keeper, a world class CB and a good LB.

So in short imo, we need Sancho, a CF, a CM like Ndidi, a CB, LB and GK. We might not get all of them in one window but if we sell the likes of Emerson, Willian, Pedro, Giroud, Christensen with Morata money coming in and the leftover Hazard money + the annual transfer budget + the unused transfer budget for this window, we can at least sign Sancho, a CF and a GK. We still have a lot of youth that can cover for the CB, LB and CM for the time being like Gallagher, Anjorin and  whoever that breaks out next season.

 

 

 

On 19/02/2020 at 10:28, Malcolm9 said:

For me he is the most obvious player to sign along with Werner to bolster our attack, with plenty of years ahead of them. Add in Ziyech, a fit Pulisic, CHO and RLC and that is some top talent in the squad. Those along with a better keeper and a left back and we are good to go.

We need to move on players like Bats, Dave, Emerson, Willian and Pedro, for me they aren't good enough for us anymore. 

Crazy thing is, if we just sell a few of our players who no longer are fit to play for us, we can recoup more than enough money to bring in some real world class additions.

Can easily sell around 10 players we currently have on our books (loans + 1st team) and we can sign 3 or 4 quality players who can walk into our first team.

17 minutes ago, Deino said:

They should pull out all the stops imo. With Pulisic, Sancho, Ziyech, RLC, Mount and CHO, we may finally have a creative attack force.

If we can sign someone like Ndidi, our midfield will be solid again. Having Kova, Kante and Jorginho gave us a good base. Just need to add more bite since RLC should be played more as an AM imo to help his longevity in the sport. We just need to have a midfield that can link attack to defense with a bit of bite. Barkley is done for me at the very top unless he steps up to a new level which is hardly the case.

Defense-wise, we need to refurbish it. Get a good keeper, a world class CB and a good LB.

So in short imo, we need Sancho, a CF, a CM like Ndidi, a CB, LB and GK. We might not get all of them in one window but if we sell the likes of Emerson, Willian, Pedro, Giroud, Christensen with Morata money coming in and the leftover Hazard money + the annual transfer budget + the unused transfer budget for this window, we can at least sign Sancho, a CF and a GK. We still have a lot of youth that can cover for the CB, LB and CM for the time being like Gallagher, Anjorin and  whoever that breaks out next season.

 

 

 

Absolutely agree with you here. We are just a few key signings away in a few key positions from having a quality starting lineup.

Im willing to give Kepa another chance with an improved defence in all fairness though, I think if we signed a world class CB (or 2) and WC LB we are good to go. I was thinking sign Telles and Skriniar or Koulibaly for CB and then we will be able to better judge about Kepa.

We may still need a striker as well, but Tammy has been performing well for us so it may seem a bit unfair on him to sign an expensive striker

On 17/02/2020 at 13:40, evissy said:

Why the f**k we do not negotiate when we are supposed to? 

Im sure if we could have got Zyiech and Sancho in January we would have, but that wasn't realistic. Would you have given Real Madrid Hazard last January because they pulled on the violins and said they needed top 4?

On 19/02/2020 at 12:53, PloKoon13 said:

However excessive the price may seem, if signing Sancho is something we can make happen, it's almost a no-brainer. Considering his age, both the height and breadth of his abilities, as well as his nationality, he is on paper someone with the potential to be as important to us as Hazard.

The only sticking point for me is that this is the only area (other than right back) in which the squad isn't in desperate need of reinforcement or improvement. I admit I have no idea what our transfer budget is looking like for the summer, but I'd be loath to spend our entire budget on an area which doesn't need it, however impressive the talent, as badly as others.

There is no question as to whether Sancho would be an improvement on what we currently have in his position - he absolutely would be. If signing him means that we are unable to effectively manage the necessary flux in the rest of the squad (and bear in mind this could extend to goalkeeper, left back, centre back, centre midfield, centre forward), I would be more reluctant to do it.

I'm sure all of this is moot anyway - there must be at least ten other clubs who would be more attractive to him at the current time - including the one he already plays for.

For a signing like Sancho sometimes you have to take the hit, signing Hazard meant we neglected our midfield for a little while longer but it was worth it.