24 minutes ago, Osgood is Good said:

Sarri has to be given time. However this is the third manager that has levelled criticism at this set of players. IMO any player who does not want to commit their future to Chelsea, should be sold, and if that includes Hazard so be it. I find the stance Chelsea have taken to the Hazard contract, has made the club look weak.

I have noticed hazard being waaay too friendly (having a good laugh) with opposing team players a good few times before and during games of late. Shouldn’t happen

2 hours ago, Brutos said:

Three different managers have mentioned the mentality of this group of players at some point you have to take a step back and say...hold on three different managers saying the same thing...

Believe it or not a lot of people on this forum still think Mourinho was 100% guilty. 

3 minutes ago, Dean said:

I have noticed hazard being waaay too friendly (having a good laugh) with opposing team players a good few times before and during games of late. Shouldn’t happen

To be fair, that's not just Hazard though, that's how modern players are today, hugging and hand shakes with the opposition in the tunnel before the game 

3 hours ago, EngineerJoe said:

The writing is on the wall for Sarri. He is gone. The players aren't performing for him and why should they? He is making all the wrong team line up choices and is constantly getting subs wrong. Our 2 best players out of position.

Hazard will move on, Kante will be snapped up by the likes of PSG and we we will become a top 10 team with the likes of Arsenal. No-one wants to be Arsenal, not even Arsenal. Let's get rid of him now before the rot truly sits in. We are still in multiple trophies, can we not exit all of them before deciding that the players simply aren't interested any more.

Welcome to the forum Joe. Think you're going to get Yorkley-ed pretty soon though!!

2 hours ago, DaRick said:

Arsenal are a Top 6 team ATM. 

Apparently overtures were made to Kante by PSG and he rebuffed them. 

Put bluntly, this side has inadequate personnel to play Sarri's 4-4-3 formation. However, as we discovered last season, changing it back to a 3-at-the-back formation may not be the long-term (or even short-term answer). With hindsight, Conte won the 2016/17 PL by changing the formation and taking the league by surprise - on paper, our squad was at best Top 4 quality.

If you wish to sack Sarri in a panic (which I still disagree with for now), who would you bring in?

To a large degree, Sarri has been hindered by mentally fragile strikers, alongside one target-man who has lost all scoring touch and some pretty erratic recruitment, coming partially from the whims of a manager whose philosophy was different to Sarri's. 

Where he has fell down is in starting the wrong lineups too often (A target man is useful against parked buses and yet Giroud has rarely been played in that role) and not rotating Willian/CHO more (and arguably not playing Emerson more). Also, maybe he relies on Kovacic too much as a means of retaining possession and countering counters. The problem is that he lacks end product. Against non-Top 6 sides, Barkley/RLC should probably start, before bringing on Kovacic to repress counterattacks.  

EDIT: There is much to be said to the notion that we're getting physically bullied off parks - an Essien-type in this midfield would solve that problem. Problem is that Kante's the designated Box-to-Box midfielder so you would have to play this midfielder in the Kovacic/regista position, which wouldn't seem very likely. A Pogba-type would be useful.

Yorkley will have you for that as well

3 hours ago, EngineerJoe said:

The writing is on the wall for Sarri. He is gone. The players aren't performing for him and why should they? He is making all the wrong team line up choices and is constantly getting subs wrong. Our 2 best players out of position.

Hazard will move on, Kante will be snapped up by the likes of PSG and we we will become a top 10 team with the likes of Arsenal. No-one wants to be Arsenal, not even Arsenal. Let's get rid of him now before the rot truly sits in. We are still in multiple trophies, can we not exit all of them before deciding that the players simply aren't interested any more.

What do you mean why should they? Because he's the f**king gaffer and they're paid a big wage regardless. 

If you don't like something, you take it up with the gaffer privately, not just play sh*t on purpose. I don't think this is the case by the way, but people shouldn't justify players playing bad on purpose just because they don't agree with the manager. 

I actually still heavily disliked the way Lampard behaved with AVB, even after AVB got sacked he said "I like Di Matteo because the last one wouldn't play me", when AVB had good reasons to drop Lampard after how badly he was playing then. 

6 minutes ago, Slojo said:

What do you mean why should they? Because he's the f**king gaffer and they're paid a big wage regardless. 
 

I'm not even going to go there yet, but we know what this club is like for sacking managers so it wouldn't surprise me if he is gone soon, I said the same when there was a poll running about who would replace Conte.

The club can either keep up this hiring and firing act or stick by the manager and tell the players to deal with it or leave.

Edited January 20, 20197 yr by Scott Harris

This is ridiculous to have a subject of firing another good manager. Just goes to show thats its not only the board inpatient but us supporters too. Think of Guardiolas first season and the amount of new players he signed to his liking. 

 

Its not the manager but players such as willian and alonso that even when they score they hardly smile. We need new characters in the team simple as that and patience too. 

1 minute ago, Gentian said:

This is ridiculous to have a subject of firing another good manager. Just goes to show thats its not only the board inpatient but us supporters too. Think of Guardiolas first season and the amount of new players he signed to his liking. 

 

Its not the manager but players such as willian and alonso that even when they score they hardly smile. We need new characters in the team simple as that and patience too. 

To be honest, most fans aren't asking for him to be sacked, they are just talking about it being a possibility because of what has happened in the past.

His sacking is inevitable. It is just a matter of when not if.

The board will not do what is needed to do for him to succeeded. The squad needs a massive clear out, a notion that was poo pooed on by some posters when I put it forward but Klopp and pep were both allowed to change their squads to meet their needs. If we believe in sarri we must do the the same.

If the means selling Eden to fund it so be it. We have lost better players and still moved forward.

Replacing a top class keeper with another and signing jorginho is not enough, we need a big clear out. Find the players Sarri trust and get rid of the rest.

Build the squad around kepa, rudiger, christensen, jorginho, kante, a ampadu and hopefully CHO

Yeah we really need to freshen up the squad. The history has repeated itself far too many times, 3rd manager now threatened with sacking due to the players. I’ll be surprised if they don’t down the tools now.

Best thing the board can do now is stick with Sarri and give him the team he wants.

If Poch and Klopp get four years plus without winning anything then we should extend Sarri the same compliment. Back him.

I do think it's going to get a fair bit worse if he continues to play names vs form.

31 minutes ago, Luca Vialli said:

If Poch and Klopp get four years plus without winning anything then we should extend Sarri the same compliment. Back him.

I do think it's going to get a fair bit worse if he continues to play names vs form.

Did they keep their respective clubs in the CL.....................?

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I'm not even going to go there yet, but we know what this club is like for sacking managers so it wouldn't surprise me if he is gone soon, I said the same when there was a poll running about who would replace Conte.

The club can either keep up this hiring and firing act or stick by the manager and tell the players to deal with it or leave.

To side with the manager over the players will likely mean a massive overhaul so we have to be 100% sure Sarri is the right man to oversee it.

Backing Jose over the players in 2015 would have been a catastrophic mistake but my intincts are telling me we should side with the manager this time.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

His sacking is inevitable. It is just a matter of when not if.

The board will not do what is needed to do for him to succeeded. The squad needs a massive clear out, a notion that was poo pooed on by some posters when I put it forward but Klopp and pep were both allowed to change their squads to meet their needs. If we believe in sarri we must do the the same.

If the means selling Eden to fund it so be it. We have lost better players and still moved forward.

Replacing a top class keeper with another and signing jorginho is not enough, we need a big clear out. Find the players Sarri trust and get rid of the rest.

Build the squad around kepa, rudiger, christensen, jorginho, kante, a ampadu and hopefully CHO

In all honesty, the board have actually recruited players to fit into Sarri's tactical setup.

Kepa is perfect for his tactics as he is very comfortable with his feet, Jorginho was the key piece in Sarri's Napoli side, Pulisic is also a player that will be extremely comfortable in Sarri's system due to his pressing ability, quick movement, pace and technical ability. We are now bringing in Higuain who had his best ever season under Sarri and is another who fits into his tactical setup

This is a rebuilding job that's going to take time, we have a lot of deadwood in our squad and haven't had any decent striker for the first half of the season

I actually feel Roman's become a lot more patient recently, we gave Mourinho time to change it around before it became obvious it wasn't going to work and Conte lasted the season even though our form was horrific in the 2nd half of the season.

Before it was a win at all costs mentality, spend big and win big no matter what. It's different now, we can't afford to outspend our rivals and Roman knows this, he will also know that Sarri will need time to truly implement his style on our club. Like I said, the signings we have made since Sarri took over are all suited to his style of play plus Roman has always wanted us to play great attacking football and Napoli were one of the best sides to watch under Sarri.

 

24 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Did they keep their respective clubs in the CL.....................?

I’m not sure Klopp did in his first season? A guaranteed CL spot is no longer a thing. The top four us now six or seven and smaller teams in the league are capable of big things (not just Leicester winning the league but the likes of Burnley getting a Europa League spot). 

1 minute ago, Munkworth said:

I’m not sure Klopp did in his first season? A guaranteed CL spot is no longer a thing. The top four us now six or seven and smaller teams in the league are capable of big things (not just Leicester winning the league but the likes of Burnley getting a Europa League spot). 

I was looking for stats on this though could only find honours.

It's Brutos that posted #Sarriout before the end of the game yesterday. But it wasn't during the heat of the moment, he really thinks that the biggest factor is this current manager.

I think you may not have seen my previous post but that was sarcastic, because you always have a few going overboard with their reaction. This post I made is tongue in cheek because I know we have supporters who actually want him sacked now and will do the exact same thing with another manager in 6 months time. It's to show the impatience in our fan base the " i want it now" society

I will repeat myself again but once the board realizes it's not 2007 anymore and that we arent that big anymore and the competition got fiercer than ever, then maybe there's hope for the long term ... I thought sacking Conte was bollocks. So therefore I think that sacking Sarri wont do better despite my envy for us to come back to the direct football we're used to and until sarri gets the players he wants to make his system works !

5 minutes ago, Londonisblue said:

I will repeat myself again but once the board realizes it's not 2007 anymore and that we arent that big anymore and the competition got fiercer than ever, then maybe there's hope for the long term ... I thought sacking Conte was bollocks. So therefore I think that sacking Sarri wont do better despite my envy for us to come back to the direct football we're used to and until sarri gets the players he wants to make his system works !

Yes I thought Sarri played possession based direct football and had never heard of this regista role so feel a little cheated.

I hope also once Sarris's tour is over we go back to practical football with different tactics for different sides though not under Jose this time.

The fact this thread exists says a lot about the pressure you work under being Chelsea manager. 

We carry on about pretty football etc. but when confronted with the reality of what this might look like or at least the process to get there, the questions are immediately asked. Truth is we care about winning, and that's not just Roman.

Now for the record I thought this was a bad appointment, that it would require a massive squad investment that wasn't going to happen and that Sarri would struggle against packed and disciplined defences in England. 

But we can't serious consider replacing him after 6 months having paid massive money to get him and his star player. If we want to play good football here in England, short of hiring Guardiola (which isn't happening) we have to give him a chance to work some things through to adjust, to learn and adapt. That includes with an actual striker, something that looks like it will happen.

If we're no closer in 12 months let's talk again.

Take a look at Napoli-Lazio to appreciate different technical qualites of two last Sarri's teams. 

Roman has completely lost interest so I’d imagine that Sarri is here to stay.

The problems the club find itself in at the moment are huge.

If people don't turn up his interest will return or he will sell.

We are not there yet.