44 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I certainly haven't felt the same connection to the club since all this happened. I think it's clear it's happened to a lot of people, as the engagement here has dwindled since then. I find it a real struggle to care any more. Of course, I can't watch anyone else instead, so it's just sapped my love for the game completely.

Yeah I feel the same way.

They've turned one of the most successful European clubs over the last two decades into a laughingstock in less than two years.

And had the arrogance to criticize how archaic and backwards the previous regime was in the way they were running the club, making transfers etc.

f**king c**ts, the lot of them.

 

Frank Leboeuf:

‘When Christopher Nkunku came on, I saw a different player,’ said Lebouef.

‘I saw a player who knows how to play internationally. The others don’t know. The others are mid-table players.”

 

 

‘I was insulted by a lady on social media last week because I was harsh on Chelsea. How can you be nice right now?

‘What can you find about my former club to believe in something good? It’s awful, it’s appalling! Everything is wrong! Nothing is good.’

“Well if I was a member of the Chelsea board I would sack myself, that’s the first decision I would make. Because of the bad decision we made to hire some players and pay so much money.

54 minutes ago, JJ8 said:

Frank Leboeuf:

‘When Christopher Nkunku came on, I saw a different player,’ said Lebouef.

‘I saw a player who knows how to play internationally. The others don’t know. The others are mid-table players.”

 

 

‘I was insulted by a lady on social media last week because I was harsh on Chelsea. How can you be nice right now?

‘What can you find about my former club to believe in something good? It’s awful, it’s appalling! Everything is wrong! Nothing is good.’

“Well if I was a member of the Chelsea board I would sack myself, that’s the first decision I would make. Because of the bad decision we made to hire some players and pay so much money.

He's been bang on about everything going on at the club for months now. One of the only ones I see being brutally honest. As much as like Joe Cole, his constant attempts and pretending that things will be fine if we persist is nauseating. Stop being the nice guys and tell it like it is.

1 hour ago, JJ8 said:

Frank Leboeuf:

‘When Christopher Nkunku came on, I saw a different player,’ said Lebouef.

‘I saw a player who knows how to play internationally. The others don’t know. The others are mid-table players.”

 

 

‘I was insulted by a lady on social media last week because I was harsh on Chelsea. How can you be nice right now?

‘What can you find about my former club to believe in something good? It’s awful, it’s appalling! Everything is wrong! Nothing is good.’

“Well if I was a member of the Chelsea board I would sack myself, that’s the first decision I would make. Because of the bad decision we made to hire some players and pay so much money.

Love Frank Lebouf, top bloke, great freekicks and pens.

Not only have we overpaid on transfer fees for just about everybody, but they have also handed out salaries that were a huge increase on what players were on at their previous clubs (assuming data on the Capology website is correct).

A few examples : 

• Cucurella £50K at Brighton ; now £175K per week
• Caicedo £60K at Brighton ; now £150K
• Fernandez £41K at Benfica ; now £180K 
• Fofana £19K at Leicester ; now £200K (ffs)
• Badiashile £9.5K at Monaco ; now £90K
• Disasi £11.8K at Monaco ; now £80K 
• Jackson £8.5K at Villareal ; now £65K
• Chukwuemeka £1.5K at Villa, ; now £100K

These are all right out of the Peter Ridsdale play book ... in fact they make Ridsdale look like a rank amateur  ... 

The old salaries are a more accurate representation of  current "ability" for me. We might even be overachieving with this group of players LOL. 

Interesting that Leboeuf talks about Nkunku being on a different performance level, as he was on £164K a week at Leipzig which is multiple levels of remuneration above all the other signings bar Sterling. We are paying Nkunku £195K a week, and Sterling of course is on a silly £325K, (he was on £300K at City, but for me we should have been offering much lower than that, like we did with Silva, who went from £296K at PSG to £110K with us)

Going to be nigh on impossible to shift anyone that doesn't make the grade ... 

 

3 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Not only have we overpaid on transfer fees for just about everybody, but they have also handed out salaries that were a huge increase on what players were on at their previous clubs (assuming data on the Capology website is correct).

A few examples : 

• Cucurella £50K at Brighton ; now £175K per week
• Caicedo £60K at Brighton ; now £150K
• Fernandez £41K at Benfica ; now £180K 
• Fofana £19K at Leicester ; now £200K (ffs)
• Badiashile £9.5K at Monaco ; now £90K
• Disasi £11.8K at Monaco ; now £80K 
• Jackson £8.5K at Villareal ; now £65K
• Chukwuemeka £1.5K at Villa, ; now £100K

These are all right out of the Peter Ridsdale play book ... in fact they make Ridsdale look like a rank amateur  ... 

The old salaries are a more accurate representation of  current "ability" for me. We might even be overachieving with this group of players LOL. 

Interesting that Leboeuf talks about Nkunku being on a different performance level, as he was on £164K a week at Leipzig which is multiple levels of remuneration above all the other signings bar Sterling. We are paying Nkunku £195K a week, and Sterling of course is on a silly £325K, (he was on £300K at City, but for me we should have been offering much lower than that, like we did with Silva, who went from £296K at PSG to £110K with us)

Going to be nigh on impossible to shift anyone that doesn't make the grade ... 

 

Fekkin unreal and none of them worth anything like those figures..no wonder we're in the sh*t. As for Sterling ffs 350 k  more like £3.50 

7 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Not only have we overpaid on transfer fees for just about everybody, but they have also handed out salaries that were a huge increase on what players were on at their previous clubs (assuming data on the Capology website is correct).

A few examples : 

• Cucurella £50K at Brighton ; now £175K per week
• Caicedo £60K at Brighton ; now £150K
• Fernandez £41K at Benfica ; now £180K 
• Fofana £19K at Leicester ; now £200K (ffs)
• Badiashile £9.5K at Monaco ; now £90K
• Disasi £11.8K at Monaco ; now £80K 
• Jackson £8.5K at Villareal ; now £65K
• Chukwuemeka £1.5K at Villa, ; now £100K

These are all right out of the Peter Ridsdale play book ... in fact they make Ridsdale look like a rank amateur  ... 

The old salaries are a more accurate representation of  current "ability" for me. We might even be overachieving with this group of players LOL. 

Interesting that Leboeuf talks about Nkunku being on a different performance level, as he was on £164K a week at Leipzig which is multiple levels of remuneration above all the other signings bar Sterling. We are paying Nkunku £195K a week, and Sterling of course is on a silly £325K, (he was on £300K at City, but for me we should have been offering much lower than that, like we did with Silva, who went from £296K at PSG to £110K with us)

Going to be nigh on impossible to shift anyone that doesn't make the grade ... 

 

Pretend it is not our club and have a laugh lol.

Ted “f**king” Lasso and his wise men have f**ked us for a good few years

Thats why  sacking Poch is not a/the solution.  Bring some next name and will be the same or slightly better.

Main problem is the board which i can't understand what is the vision of the club. Only they know what is their vision.

Or want to tell me that American style-"here you bunch of players, deal with them" is a strategy??? 

I wrote it last night. Bradley made our team and subs to look like clowns. Why? Because Klopp and their board , despite their differences , had some kind of vision, being on same page if you like.

What do we have? Voiceless coaches/managers and American style of bringing players. Lamp said it that the tactical training is not on level during Abramovich, now seems the same, despite that new owners bring new stuff. Poch said that Palmer is not his choice, a great one, but is not his, because he has no word on transfers. And with another coach/manager will be the same.

The only solution is the owners to change their minds or to get out of the club.

Edited February 1, 20242 yr by JJ8

Just remember what your copy of The Sun or Daily Mail tell you:

USA = Good

Russia = Bad

 

25 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Just remember what your copy of The Sun or Daily Mail tell you:

USA = Good

Russia = Bad

 

And don't forget to take your 6th booster shot!

Too many signings too quickly. Loss of identity.

The Americans seemed to have wanted every single scent of Russia out this club immediately. No money for January signings because we’ve blown it all in the last couple of windows. 
 

stuck with sh*t plays on long term contracts. It’s such a total mess. 
 

Caicedo looks every bit the £4m player. 
Enzo too. f**k all fight in then with contacts this long. 
 

we are so f**ked. Why couldn’t we sign 2 or 3 players each window for a few years, build the team that way? Instead buying really young players in the hope we’ll sell them on halfway through contact for a profit…. But we have been mugged off totally. Wonder how meetings with Todd and Clearlake go….. f**k me I'd like a teams invite. 

11 minutes ago, SimonH said:

Too many signings too quickly. Loss of identity.

The Americans seemed to have wanted every single scent of Russia out this club immediately. No money for January signings because we’ve blown it all in the last couple of windows. 
 

stuck with sh*t plays on long term contracts. It’s such a total mess. 
 

Caicedo looks every bit the £4m player. 
Enzo too. f**k all fight in then with contacts this long. 
 

we are so f**ked. Why couldn’t we sign 2 or 3 players each window for a few years, build the team that way? Instead buying really young players in the hope we’ll sell them on halfway through contact for a profit…. But we have been mugged off totally. Wonder how meetings with Todd and Clearlake go….. f**k me I'd like a teams invite. 

Need to hit rock bottom before we bounce back......we are  gradually getting to the bottom...

4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Not only have we overpaid on transfer fees for just about everybody, but they have also handed out salaries that were a huge increase on what players were on at their previous clubs (assuming data on the Capology website is correct).

A few examples : 

• Cucurella £50K at Brighton ; now £175K per week
• Caicedo £60K at Brighton ; now £150K
• Fernandez £41K at Benfica ; now £180K 
• Fofana £19K at Leicester ; now £200K (ffs)
• Badiashile £9.5K at Monaco ; now £90K
• Disasi £11.8K at Monaco ; now £80K 
• Jackson £8.5K at Villareal ; now £65K
• Chukwuemeka £1.5K at Villa, ; now £100K

These are all right out of the Peter Ridsdale play book ... in fact they make Ridsdale look like a rank amateur  ... 

The old salaries are a more accurate representation of  current "ability" for me. We might even be overachieving with this group of players LOL. 

Interesting that Leboeuf talks about Nkunku being on a different performance level, as he was on £164K a week at Leipzig which is multiple levels of remuneration above all the other signings bar Sterling. We are paying Nkunku £195K a week, and Sterling of course is on a silly £325K, (he was on £300K at City, but for me we should have been offering much lower than that, like we did with Silva, who went from £296K at PSG to £110K with us)

Going to be nigh on impossible to shift anyone that doesn't make the grade ... 

 

The Ridsdale comparison is a good one sadly. Some ridiculous money wasted on signings and salaries. I know there are supposedly a lot of bonus payments built in, so the base rates may be significantly lower. But still. I would say we will do well if even 50% of the signings work out, and as you point out the rest will be almost impossible to shift. Not to mention many are on long term deals. What a mess.

It's hard not to laugh ( or cry) about these figures. Basically Fofana 10 times his previous salary to lie down in the sick bay or doing physio. I mean WTF you find a job like that? Not his fault, just what have we done with the scouting and medical checks. Chukwuemeka  from 1.5 k to 100k, I mean who negotiated the deal? It's like buying a Toyota and paid the price of a Ferrari.

So far all the doom and gloom I predicted under this Clearfake Todd Bully Svengali Bigballi ownership has come true, the table don’t lie neither does the current coaches win percentage, and to think SFL got stick last season. Lots of posters have woken up and realized this after suffering the dross we’ve witnessed all season long punctuated by a fair few false dawns. A  few die hards on here that have backed Clearfake from the off (Emperors New Clothes Syndrome) continue to do so probably out of ego. It’s tough for us to say we were wrong, me so far I was and am not! 😉

Clearfake will no doubt point to reaching a cup final as some kind of progress and also consider the injuries. But their ‘rip up all the rules / we know better because we’re minted already’ attitude has stunk up our beloved club out. They have dragged us down to the level of our not so successful ever neighbors Fulham, Palace & Brentford a 2 bob mid table outfit. There is unfortunately no money left to spend one’s way out of it by getting in a few seasoned world class players as they have sold the family silver already. So it’s mid table for a good few matches yet this and next season as no lessons are being learned at the club currently.

Ffs the Pikeys are now a better side than Chelsea FC.
 

Viva La Revolution ! 

Edited February 2, 20242 yr by General

42 minutes ago, General said:

So far all the doom and gloom I predicted under this Clearfake Todd Bully Svengali Bigballi ownership has come true, the table don’t lie neither does the current coaches win percentage, and to think SFL got stick last season. Lots of posters have woken up and realized this after suffering the dross we’ve witnessed all season long punctuated by a fair few false dawns. A  few die hards on here that have backed Clearfake from the off (Emperors New Clothes Syndrome) continue to do so probably out of ego. It’s tough for us to say we were wrong, me so far I was and am not! 😉

Clearfake will no doubt point to reaching a cup final as some kind of progress and also consider the injuries. But their ‘rip up all the rules / we know better because we’re minted already’ attitude has stunk up our beloved club out. They have dragged us down to the level of our not so successful ever neighbors Fulham, Palace & Brentford a 2 bob mid table outfit. There is unfortunately no money left to spend one’s way out of it by getting in a few seasoned world class players as they have sold the family silver already. So it’s mid table for a good few matches yet this and next season as no lessons are being learned at the club currently.

Ffs the Pikeys are now a better side than Chelsea FC.
 

Viva La Revolution ! 

I was with you in the beginning with them, and sadly it looks like we were on the money.

Good with the bad though. Many Chelsea fans long gone could only dream of what we had with Roman.

I feel very privileged to have seen some amazing players, fantastic games and wonderful teams. Great memories.

And one day the sun will rise on us again, I hope.

Danny Drinkwater anyone. Any strategy needs tweaks, at least its not potter we would be relegated by now.

8 hours ago, SimonH said:

Too many signings too quickly. Loss of identity.

The Americans seemed to have wanted every single scent of Russia out this club immediately. No money for January signings because we’ve blown it all in the last couple of windows. 
 

stuck with sh*t plays on long term contracts. It’s such a total mess. 
 

Caicedo looks every bit the £4m player. 
Enzo too. f**k all fight in then with contacts this long. 
 

we are so f**ked. Why couldn’t we sign 2 or 3 players each window for a few years, build the team that way? Instead buying really young players in the hope we’ll sell them on halfway through contact for a profit…. But we have been mugged off totally. Wonder how meetings with Todd and Clearlake go….. f**k me I'd like a teams invite. 

Its all part of the cunning plan Simon.

Most of these players are actually on add on contracts but the press made a huge thing about reporting top prices.

So like Mudryk reported by Sky as the 100m player. Well actually that was €100m which equals £88m. And a chunk of that is add ons so it was 62m up front.

Therefore by not winning the league, not winning the champions league, not qualifying for Europe, not willing the Ballon D'or, we won't have to pay Mudryk any more in add ons. Cunning.

When we then sell him for 75m the press and punditry (morons like Darmesh Seth) will be mocking our loss on the player whereas in reality those gifted, far sighted investment gurus can teach us backwater footie people a thing or two by clearing a cool 10m in profit.

Brilliant.

One problem though.

 

He's sh*t

Oh and he's been found out in the PL and nobody in Europe has any money. Bl00dy awesome!

5 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

It's hard not to laugh ( or cry) about these figures. Basically Fofana 10 times his previous salary to lie down in the sick bay or doing physio. I mean WTF you find a job like that? Not his fault, just what have we done with the scouting and medical checks. Chukwuemeka  from 1.5 k to 100k, I mean who negotiated the deal? It's like buying a Toyota and paid the price of a Ferrari.

Negotiation skills and a proper sense of perspective seem to be lacking all the way to the top !

It's ridiculous. Total by-pass of any common sense. Football has been that way for a while though, ever since the Sky money came in.

Great for the current generation of players and their agents, but that is about it. It also breeds huge discontent in fans, as what they see on the pitch is poor value for money for what these blokes are all paid now. It creates a totally false sense of expectation that players like Sterling (for example) cannot possibly meet. Similarly with the daft fees paid for Enzo and Caicedo (as that is topical on here right now). 

It's not just in football either. Look at Musk being awarded his 56 f**king billion dollar pay package at Tesla. Thankfully some judge has seen sense on that. 

19 hours ago, Zeta said:

I certainly haven't felt the same connection to the club since all this happened. I think it's clear it's happened to a lot of people, as the engagement here has dwindled since then. I find it a real struggle to care any more. Of course, I can't watch anyone else instead, so it's just sapped my love for the game completely.

Mate you have been a Chelsea fan for about 10 years you only started following them when you were in your 20's and know you say you can't be bothered watching them on a stream ladies and gentlemen in a nutshell the modern football fan.

10 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Mate you have been a Chelsea fan for about 10 years you only started following them when you were in your 20's and know you say you can't be bothered watching them on a stream ladies and gentlemen in a nutshell the modern football fan.

I've been a fan since 2002, when I was about 14, though it's always been Chelsea, since my family support them, so I remember watching things like the cup final against Middlesboro and Di Matteo scoring in 42 seconds. So you're only about a decade or so out.

Edited February 2, 20242 yr by Zeta

12 hours ago, SimonH said:

Why couldn’t we sign 2 or 3 players each window for a few years, build the team that way? Instead buying really young players in the hope we’ll sell them on halfway through contact for a profit…. But we have been mugged off totally. Wonder how meetings with Todd and Clearlake go….. f**k me I'd like a teams invite. 

Agree! I think while certain players were underperforming last season, to change 90% of the whole team on a whim is insane! For me, the sales of Kante and Kovacic were crazy. The experience they offer to that midfield and the team generally would've helped no end this season! Both are proper 'team players' with some passion which is what has lacked a lot!

5 hours ago, smileysmiles said:

Danny Drinkwater anyone. Any strategy needs tweaks, at least its not potter we would be relegated by now.

To be honest I'm no longer convinced that we'd be any worse if Potter were still here.  It's nigh on impossible to work out what on earth Poch is trying to do, other than earn himself a big redundancy pay off maybe ?