I dont understand why he is not getting more regular game time. With Lukaku as rubbish and lazy as he is, we need to change things up, and I would be building around Kai.

I thought Havertz played well today and was crucial to setting up the winning goal.

He looks disinterested to me. And despite the assist he was otherwise as poor as any.

 

41 minutes ago, Sindre said:

He looks disinterested to me. And despite the assist he was otherwise as poor as any.

 

He assisted the winning goal, got in a couple of good positions and was significantly more involved than Rom, in a much shorter time on the pitch. 

A clear improvement on the big lump 

54 minutes ago, Sindre said:

He looks disinterested to me. And despite the assist he was otherwise as poor as any.

 

Coming from the guy who defends Lukaku every game, im not suprised to see this🙄🙄

13 minutes ago, Oli said:

Coming from the guy who defends Lukaku every game, im not suprised to see this🙄🙄

Que?

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

He looks disinterested to me. And despite the assist he was otherwise as poor as any.

 

He was only on the pitch a matter of seconds and he got behind the entire Plymouth defence.

 

Put Timo to shame with his inability to stay onside this afternoon.

Also actually contributed in a tangible way so I suppose he put Lukaku to shame too.

Thats how bad are attackers are and how bad the standers have dropped that Havertz gets praised for an assist vs a tired league one team in extra time.

Kai was better than Werner but that wasn't difficult. At the moment all of our attacking options look pretty dire, and it makes you wonder whether it is the system at fault. Or have we really just wasted the better part of 250m on rubbish?

34 minutes ago, coco said:

He was only on the pitch a matter of seconds and he got behind the entire Plymouth defence.

 

That was the same after 8 seconds for Werner...he was offside.

He did ok got the assist for the winner but ladies & gents this is Plymouth Argyle from league 1 today so surely players of his caliber should do more than ok. Same for most of the players today no heart no grit no commitment to Chelsea FC while trousering hundreds of thousands monthly. 

Definitely made a difference when he came on 

Yet to see his 'generational talent'...not sure where that term came from in football? Truly exceptional players though can grab a game by the scruff of the neck and dominate. Kai at present is not anywhere near that level, compare him to say Gazza and there is a world of difference with the former being able to drink him under the table too.

37 minutes ago, charierre said:

Yet to see his 'generational talent'...not sure where that term came from in football? Truly exceptional players though can grab a game by the scruff of the neck and dominate. Kai at present is not anywhere near that level, compare him to say Gazza and there is a world of difference with the former being able to drink him under the table too.

He's one of the best German talents in the recent years. He won individual awards as a youth player, was in the Bundesliga team of the year and also Europa League team of the year before we bought him. 

But it's a lot different when you build the team around him, like Leverkusen that gave him all the time and space to succeed, that made us buy him but so far most of the time here he's used as a filler wherever is needed. A young player like that needs to be managed well, it's not like Messi was played all over the place and used as a sub as a 22 year old whenever someone else wasn't available, no he had his spot and just got better and better. That's how you make a talent to reach his potential but we bought Lukaku instead so it's safe to say that the setup isn't ideal for such a talent as Kai Havertz is.

After all said and done he showed last season in the CL that he could outplay Real Madrid and he did win us the CL title, can't think of anyone else except Messi that scored in the CL final being in the starting lineup that young...

Edited February 6, 20224 yr by Gol15

47 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

He's one of the best German talents in the recent years. He won individual awards as a youth player, was in the Bundesliga team of the year and also Europa League team of the year before we bought him. 

But it's a lot different when you build the team around him, like Leverkusen that gave him all the time and space to succeed, that made us buy him but so far most of the time here he's used as a filler wherever is needed. A young player like that needs to be managed well, it's not like Messi was played all over the place and used as a sub as a 22 year old whenever someone else wasn't available, no he had his spot and just got better and better. That's how you make a talent to reach his potential but we bought Lukaku instead so it's safe to say that the setup isn't ideal for such a talent as Kai Havertz is.

After all said and done he showed last season in the CL that he could outplay Real Madrid and he did win us the CL title, can't think of anyone else except Messi that scored in the CL final being in the starting lineup that young...

I know all that Gol,sooner or later though he does have to come to the party and show his talent consistently. I wonder what the narrative would be if Ederson hadn’t made a dogs dinner with his decision making in the CL final. Fine margins but he can’t dine out on that goal forever. 

I personally think Covid has affected both Werner and Havertz a lot more than is let on. They don't seem to be fully fit. Hopefully that is in the past and they can kick on. Havertz more so.

2 hours ago, RomansRoubles said:

I personally think Covid has affected both Werner and Havertz a lot more than is let on. They don't seem to be fully fit. Hopefully that is in the past and they can kick on. Havertz more so.

As someone who has had the symptomatic version of it it really does affected the lungs and breathing therefore. 

Not making excuse for them but like CHO and his ACL injury they may never reach the heights they could of now.

Secret weapon time, he's done well in his previous finals for us a goal in the UCL and an assist in the Super Cup. 

Big game player, I hope he starts and runs the show in attack again.

"Kai Havertz for Chelsea in the Club World Cup finals" I can already hear the commentator 😂

1 hour ago, LongtimerLurker said:

"Kai Havertz for Chelsea in the Club World Cup finals" I can already hear the commentator 😂

You certainly can:  “I don't give a f**k about that. I just won the f**king Club World Cup.”

Lucky charm, brought us 2 of the rarest silverware from the big stage! King Kai

Big time Kai !

The silky German just perked us up, he won Chelsea the club world cup.