1 minute ago, Slojo said:

Is Steve McClaren free?

Arsene Wegner free apparently ...guaranteed top 4 anyway 

They are just toying with us now.

Just now, Slojo said:

Is Steve McClaren free?

He’s babysitting Rooney. Alan Curbishley is available 

6 minutes ago, DannyLB said:

I wouldn’t say it’s comprehensive but indeed our midfield is a major issue. Can’t defend or attack. I include Mount in this. 

What I would do to go back to having players like an Essien or Fabregas.

We really should have tried to go for Partey and Aouar when we had the chance

1 minute ago, evissy said:

Do the players themselves decide when to press or Frank? 

They are being coached that way, so I have to say, this is on Lampard, unless the players are completely ignoring his coaching.

0-100% in possession last 5 minutes?

We have given up.

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7 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I specifically said salvage though. That means temporary, what are our chances right now of getting top 4 under Frank currently? f**king nitto I say. But a caretaker manager we could actually salvage something, we've done it before a few times at this club and its worked. Then in the summer we press on for a good manager to take us somewhere. If we stick with Frank the likelihood is we are finshing midtable at best. 

Where we disagree is that I think it's impossible a caretaker gets us top 4. 

So from that position, we have to disagree on the approach. If I thought there was a chance Benitez (that's the caretaker folks!) got us top 4, then I'd be all for it. 

As Tyler just said, City are toying with us. So many options and yet we haven't even troubled their rookie keeper.

Frank, make some changes FFS.

Where’s the f**king leaders fight Chelsea f**king fight ffs

We need Clive Walker off the bench here.

Where are those  driving runs that Kova was doing, Kante Defend ffs, but no he is trying to play like De-Brunye or Gundogan

I'm not even upset. We have no excuses for this very bad form. I actually hope Lamps is the problem as that would be an easier fix than the squad after all the money invested.

That was just sublime men against boys here. Still don’t know what our tactics are 

Finally !!!!

Just now, Scott Harris said:

They are being coached that way, so I have to say, this is on Lampard, unless the players are completely ignoring his coaching.

Sometimes Kovacic for example just by a whim runs up leaving his spot. With no apparent cohesion. 

If they stick with lamps they should bring in a mentor for hi. This is ridiculas.

Would love to see a Chelsea player sprint. Actually just run. 
they’re walking off the ball. It’s awful

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

Trust me I take less than zero pleasure in this infact it hurts me big time to say this but I just can't see anyway that this gets turned around, even Conte's last few months wasn't this bad. Patience is all well and good if the projected end product is something you want to see but what end product are we building towards here? If the performances were still promising despite the rut I'd keep cool but following us atm feels like a chore and that's not a good thing especially in these times.

Same here Argo, Football is a fickle game. But these performances are a disgrace, there's nothing good coming out of them, nothing salvagable, we've made a complete u-turn. And the people who kept highlighting how we haven't beat a top 10 side, well I hate to say it, but it looks like they have a point. We can't turn up when it matters, get spanked against any bit of quality. 

I say it with my chest, he isn't the right man for the job. 

CHO and Billy on. 

Just now, KonaKai Blue said:

I'm not even upset. We have no excuses for this very bad form. I actually hope Lamps is the problem as that would be an easier fix than the squad after all the money invested.

That actually is a good option, because if these are 11 sh*t players, Lamps has no hopes anyway...

We are getting schooled here by City's B team...

I’m actually starting to think fitness at this club is an issue as well.

We play at a pace like we are waiting for the last 15 mins to step it up or we are 2 goals behind, whatever comes first.

We still play like an European time forced to play matches in the EPL.

When was the last time we was on it for anything more than 30 minutes at a time? Leeds match possibly?

And we’ve looked burnt out ever since.

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2 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Where we disagree is that I think it's impossible a caretaker gets us top 4. 

So from that position, we have to disagree on the approach. If I thought there was a chance Benitez (that's the caretaker folks!) got us top 4, then I'd be all for it. 

Of course, I don't know for sure, but what I do think, is that a caretaker at least gives us that chance, or gets us in a better position. For me that's worth it, keeping Frank for the sake of it gets us nowhere if we are already going to replace him anyway. 

Again. Mentality problem. Just walking around. Not fighting for anything. Letting the game pass them by. I think Silva might have a mentality problem too. He had it too easy at PSG, but now he's going through a rough patch the mental strength goes. 

Going the Arteta route now with the young players. Could work