Coming to think of it, Tuchel never really built his own team the way Klopp and Pep did. He took on the team Lampard/the board built and really only added Lukaku to it. It'll be nice to see him build a team in his own liking.

5 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

For me next season is not about improving the team. We have to pretty much rebuild our entire backline. That itself won't be cheap.  We can potentially lose alonso, Azpi, Chris n Rudi. Furthermore, Silva is not exactly a young gun. 

I expect reinforcement come from our loanee. Eeryone is excited with Borja n conor coming back to join us. However both excel right now in role that does not exist in our team. Gallagher is basically playing Lampard role for palace whereas Borja is playing in a two st system for soton.

I mentioned a while ago here about moving to a more 352 but I am not sure Tuchel really like it. 

Aye we do have to rebuild our backline and TT will need to use Colwill and Chalobah and develop them more as realistically he won't get to spend a bomb on defence, maybe one large signing at most, which is probably Kounde:

 

James/Sterling

Kounde/Chalobah

Silva/Colwill

Chilwell/Maatsen.

 

Outlay 60mill, possibly bringing in 10mill to 15mill for Alonso and Dave.

 

That would be my expectation unless there are some good frees about. 

The date driven signings will become a thing but am not sure they have the time to get all that going this summer.

2 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

That's not how I interpreted it. Pretty sure Tuchel is committed to Chelsea.

He is, are the new owners committed to him though?

17 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Coming to think of it, Tuchel never really built his own team the way Klopp and Pep did. He took on the team Lampard/the board built and really only added Lukaku to it. It'll be nice to see him build a team in his own liking.

To be honest I'm a little bit nervous about Tuchel's record in the market, that's the one aspect he still has everything to prove in compared to Klopp especially.

That said, if the rumours are true about Kounde, Cucurella and Tchouameni being the main targets in defense/midfield areas I'll feel a little better about things. Those three plus Gallagher and Colwill returning will improve us greatly in my opinion even factoring what we are losing.

Edited May 18, 20224 yr by Argo

1 minute ago, Argo said:

To be honest I'm a little bit nervous about Tuchel's record in the market, that's the one aspect he still has everything to prove in compared to Klopp especially.

That said, if the rumours are true about Kounde, Currella and Tchouameni being the main targets in defense/midfield areas I'll feel a little better about things. Those three plus Gallagher and Colwill returning will improve us greatly in my opinion even factoring what we are losing.

We are likely to get Kounde but we missed the boat in the other 2. The Birghton LWB is off to City and Tchouameni to Liverpool.

Am expecting TT is in contact with Dembele trying to convince him to come here.

Edited May 18, 20224 yr by axman2526

Tchouameni goes to Liverpool than that's an extra 5 steps they've taken away from us. 

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

We are likely to get Kounde but we missed the boat in the other 2. The Birghton LWB is off to City and Tchouameni to Liverpool.

Am expecting TT is in contact with Dembele trying to convince him to come here.

We'll see. London is still a big pull and if there's one good thing about them being ahead of us is we can tempt players with the type of role they simply can't in the short term.

15 minutes ago, Argo said:

We'll see. London is still a big pull and if there's one good thing about them being ahead of us is we can tempt players with the type of role they simply can't in the short term.

City pay bigger wages and Pool can sell the quad to new signings.

We have to be smart, out flank them if we can, and move on if qe cannot. No more buying second rare players hopefully.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

City pay bigger wages and Pool can sell the quad to new signings.

We have to be smart, out flank them if we can, and move on if qe cannot. No more buying second rare players hopefully.

Dear me Axman I wouldn’t want you in the trenches with me. Every other post is one of despair. Stop being a surrender monkey! City and Liverpool are in the ascendancy at present…it won’t last forever, just like when other top teams were at the top. 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

He is, are the new owners committed to him though?

It would be a huge shock and a very unpopular move if they chopped tuchel. So almost certainly yes they are committed to him

16 minutes ago, charierre said:

Dear me Axman I wouldn’t want you in the trenches with me. Every other post is one of despair. Stop being a surrender monkey! City and Liverpool are in the ascendancy at present…it won’t last forever, just like when other top teams were at the top. 

It won't last forever, everything comes in cycles. United had theirs, we had ours. Now is Pool and Cities turn.

Just saying we have to be smart with our transfer business if we want to compete. Cannot go about wasting money on poor players anymore.

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

No just from the quote.

Have to be realistic. To challange City and Pool we would need to rip up almost everything to challage. Only a few of our players would survive and that would require massive investment.

 

We would need something like this:

 

For low block sides:

 

Oblak 

 

James

Kounde

Silva

Chilwell

 

Tchouaméni 

 

Havertz

Mount

 

Gnarby 

Lewa/Mbappe

Son

 

For sides that will have possession and attack us

 

Oblak

 

Kounde

Silva

Pau Torres

 

James

Rice 

Tchouaméni 

Chilwell

 

Gnarby 

Lewa

Mount

 

Mount and Havertz as 8s that's prime Lampardball 😉😂😂

10 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Mount and Havertz as 8s that's prime Lampardball 😉😂😂

Seeing Havertz trying to occupy the ball that deep with his lethargic pace against a high press was genuine suicide. 

11 hours ago, Zeta said:

Werner defintely go. Lukaku go. CHO can either go or go on loan.

I'd like to see a 4-3-3 or similar next season. So could have something like:

Mendy

James  Silva  [NEW - CB]  Chilwell

[NEW - Holding Midfielder]

Kovacic    Mount

Ziyech  [NEW - ST]  Pulisic

 

Give Ziyech and Pulisic a real run of games and see what they can produce. Get a new striker, who can actually move and score goals. Let mount drop back to more of an attacking midfield role, rather than wide player. Basically, Lampard's old position, with Kovacic being the box-to-box Essien type.

Would make no sense in loaning out CHO and I think although inconsistent, he is one of the few 'game changers' we have.

3 minutes ago, STATS said:

Would make no sense in loaning out CHO and I think although inconsistent, he is one of the few 'game changers' we have.

Mate, there are defenders who have outscored him. Elanga has played 3 less seasons and has outscored him. 

Unless we are massively dropping our standards there is no way he starts for us. He needs minutes and that is from elsewhere. 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

Mate, there are defenders who have outscored him. Elanga has played 3 less seasons and has outscored him. 

Unless we are massively dropping our standards there is no way he starts for us. He needs minutes and that is from elsewhere. 

He needs a run as well. In our recent 'blip', I think he is one player who could have actually helped us. We have looked lost for ideas at times.  Next season, again we will be competing for 4 trophies and injuries will pile up and we will need our players. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Elanga has played 3 less seasons and has outscored him. 

And that only serves to give me further reason to delve deeper than the top line.

Personally I'd keep both Pulisic and CHO both are young enough to improve and become key players.... I think us as fans sometimes expect far too much from players under 23... These are the type of players we should be looking to build around...I'd sell Ziyech and Werner over them two...Ziyech is 29 and as a winger should be at his peak...he's not been consistent enough and has been with us for two years now...sell whilst we can get a decent fee before he gets into his 30's...Werner as either a striker or a left sided forward hasn't done the biz in front of goal either so I'd sell reluctantly if we got a decent offer... We also need a genuine winger who can play on the same side as his good foot..none of this cutting inside from both wings...it works on one but when it's on both sides it's predictable for defenders...we need someone who is going to take their defender on and whip in crosses

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

It won't last forever, everything comes in cycles. United had theirs, we had ours. Now is Pool and Cities turn.

Just saying we have to be smart with our transfer business if we want to compete. Cannot go about wasting money on poor players anymore.

Exactly...everyone thought the Arsenal invincibles were going to dominate...look what happened to them... Enter Jose Mourinho..I'm hoping Boehly has the same effect as Roman

6 minutes ago, Trueblue76 said:

Exactly...everyone thought the Arsenal invincibles were going to dominate...look what happened to them... Enter Jose Mourinho..I'm hoping Boehly has the same effect as Roman

What give our current popular manager a season and then sack him for a new special one? 🤣

3 hours ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Mount and Havertz as 8s that's prime Lampardball 😉😂😂

Good times 😄

To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing it now in a one-off as both Mount and Havertz are better defensively. Havertz is also settling now and is not getting bullied on the ball to the same extent. 

11 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Aye we do have to rebuild our backline and TT will need to use Colwill and Chalobah and develop them more as realistically he won't get to spend a bomb on defence, maybe one large signing at most, which is probably Kounde:

 

James/Sterling

Kounde/Chalobah

Silva/Colwill

Chilwell/Maatsen.

 

Outlay 60mill, possibly bringing in 10mill to 15mill for Alonso and Dave.

 

That would be my expectation unless there are some good frees about. 

The date driven signings will become a thing but am not sure they have the time to get all that going this summer.

We can't play back 4 unless we sign one or preferably two midfielder. You will also need to question all of our cb ability to play back 4 including silva. Imo Colwill should be part of the squad but we need one seasoned CB. 

My predictions is that we will lose azpi, chris, alonso n rudi and we will sign 2 cb this season and maybe make one more minor signing and that is it. 

I don't see us making a move up top unless there is huge interest in maybe timo. 

Azpilicueta is looking to leave as well. Tuchel said maybe it is an end of a cycle. I feel he wouldn't have said that if there wasn't real fear he is leaving....

Leaving:

Rudiger, Christensen, Alonso, Azpilicueta

We are left with:

Chalobah, Silva, Chilwell, James and Sarr

We could bring back:

Ampadu, Colwill and Emerson.

We absolutely have to buy at least 2 top players. Emerson is a good replacement for Alonso I think. James has no cover and we are seriously short on center. 

Kounde is heavily linked. If we manage to get him minimum is a replacement for James. We would be still short and significantly worse in that dept than this current season. Remains to be seen how deep our pockets are and how willing the club is to splash cash. I would rather do what Liverpool does and buy if someone good is available.

 

 

God, I hope we get rid of Sarr.

It’s abit depressing having to spend so much on defenders given that our attack is woefully poor.