July 26, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, ozboy said: Each of our target misses if they were misses that is Raphina, Dembele, Kounde and De Ligt can be explained away individually and pretty easily. Collectively though they look like a stuff up. If these guys were never going to come why didn't we pick some targets that would be interested? We can't blame the club for trying but we should expect them to move on once the runes have been read. For all we know this is exactly what we did. We doubtless were in touch with all of the player you listed to assess their interest. My reading of those runes is that we never had any encouragement from De Ligt, that Dembele strung us along as part of his game with Barca, that Deco told us that Raphinha wanted to Barca but that we'd be considered if that move couldn't happen, and that Kounde would definitely have joined if Barca didn't intervene. 3 hours ago, ozboy said: Tuchel is 100% correct, in my opinion, when he says that part of Chelsea's problem in preseason is a lot of unhappy players, players that aren't motivated for one reason or another. And its no good saying they are professionals and paid a lot of money. That's true but doesn't alter the fact they are unmotivated. And nor will just cracking the whip do it. You have to give them a reason to believe. Agreed. All but those who are essential should be moved out of the first team group even if they can't be moved out of the club. 3 hours ago, ozboy said: And as much as Barcelona are mortgaging their future you can also argue that if they get Kounde they will have put together quite a good, if unbalanced team. Laporte and his team are experienced people who, I'm sure, have crunched their numbers. On top of that they must have a strong grasp on the power of FC Barcelona and how that means there will always be a strong will around football and financial authorities that the club must not fail. 3 hours ago, ozboy said: Our job is not to complain about the ref, not to complain about what everyone else is doing good or bad. Our job is to build a team capable of winning the PL. 3 hours ago, ozboy said: As everyone knows that requires scoring probably 2 goals a game while conceding about 1 goal a game. 😂 As an idea or philosophy of football this might catch on. 🙂
July 26, 20223 yr There is no doubt, that Boehly and his Clearlake backers, will have learned a huge amount from their first month, dealing with underhand, corrupt liars like Barcelona and Sevilla. We can hope that they will now "grow a pair" and start to be far tougher, more ruthless and above all, make sure at the outset, that the bloody player does actually want to to play for Chelsea. They have been left with egg on their face, Chelsea's name has been dragged through the mud following the Russia Ukraine war and they have done nothing to improve things by adopting a weak, almost subservient position with all of their transfer dealings since arriving. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee Todd, just because you are a nice guy who conducts himself properly, does not mean these Spanish gangsters are the same !!
July 26, 20223 yr Agree Boehly is too much hands on with all the deals, he had some success but when it's stalling, it's really stalled. We got to the point where Tuchel had to whinge about it, and he doesn't usually whinge about people running the club. Getting rid of Mariana was premature, whether she got the deal done or not it's one thing, but we would have got an answer straight away and moved on one way or the other.
July 26, 20223 yr Chelsea had contacts today with Directors and agents around Europe to explore potential new CB options, on Sunday as we said they tried to hijack Mukiele but the player had already given his word to PSG so he wanted to honour that. (@FabrizioRomano) #CFC
July 26, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said: I really do hope we get a sporting director soon. Even though I like Boehly, I do think we are missing a bit of Marina's negotiating this summer. I could careless if we got Raphina or not but I feel like if Marina was the one negotiating that transfer, given her cutthroat nature, she probably would have forced his hand to choose between us or barca right after the fee was agreed with Leeds rather than give him the time to make a decision based on whether barca can conjure money or not. We are now making the same mistake with Kounde and allowing Sevilla to hold us hostage. My sentiments exactly. There is no way in hell that Kounde and Rapinha would hold us to ransom while Barcelona rally round to gather money. We would have taken a walk longest time with Marina in charge. And as for those saying players get more attracted to Barca than us... This is not news we all know who ranks above who in each league but we have the right to walk away from any deal if we felt we are been used. Westham just walked away from signing Broja.. West ham is not a bigger club than us in world status.. but they have their dignity and took a walk from the Broja deal when it did not look viable. That is what we should have done with these guys.
July 26, 20223 yr It’s crazy how low Barca will stoop to. I mean, how do you explain this? https://twitter.com/tenhagbali/status/1551637739128373248?s=21&t=8d50XdCCW0pmFe-DRRDesA
July 26, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, dansubrosa said: It’s crazy how low Barca will stoop to. I mean, how do you explain this? https://twitter.com/tenhagbali/status/1551637739128373248?s=21&t=8d50XdCCW0pmFe-DRRDesA that's pathetic
July 26, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, dansubrosa said: It’s crazy how low Barca will stoop to. I mean, how do you explain this? https://twitter.com/tenhagbali/status/1551637739128373248?s=21&t=8d50XdCCW0pmFe-DRRDesA OMG, if that is correct, it is another level of corruption !! also Betting/match fixing maybe ???
July 26, 20223 yr I blame Tuchel for this signing not happening. Should of made him priority instead of going for Ake, De Ligt and Kimpembe.
July 26, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, JM7 said: Chelsea no longer trying to sign Jules Kounde. - @relevo #Sevilla will not lower its claims for Kounde, which are high, but not as much as has been published. Sevilla has never had an offer of more than €55m, neither from #Chelsea nor from any other club, either now or before. That is why it remains firm. (via @muchodeportecom) #FCB I wonder if it’s tactics to apply pressure. No tactics, he wants Barca.
July 26, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, coombsie said: OMG, if that is correct, it is another level of corruption !! also Betting/match fixing maybe ??? Laporta put 300 million on a throw in to happen in that minute
July 26, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said: So Tuchel has doubts over Kounde's height yet had no issue spending weeks negotiating for Ake? Simon Phillips, the guy that told us not to take Barca sources too seriously even though Barca sources were bang and owned Matt Law etc.
July 26, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, coombsie said: OMG, if that is correct, it is another level of corruption !! also Betting/match fixing maybe ??? The power ballad hits keep on coming! xavi: "right lads make de jong want to leave, Make him look pants to the lot upstairs, They're currently busy overseeing squid games 2 with masks on but keep at it and we should be good"
July 26, 20223 yr I think we should have walked away from this atleast 2 days back when we didnt get a response within 24 hours.. i mean who is Joules Kounde.. really who is he.. are we saying he is better than VVD ? Barca or no barca we shouldnt be begging players to come here.. we kind of did that with Lukaku and look where it landed us at.
July 26, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, dansubrosa said: It’s crazy how low Barca will stoop to. I mean, how do you explain this? https://twitter.com/tenhagbali/status/1551637739128373248?s=21&t=8d50XdCCW0pmFe-DRRDesA This is actual professional bullying.
July 26, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, BordeauxBlue said: This is actual professional bullying. kinda like forcing mendy to play out from the back 😛
July 26, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, dansubrosa said: It’s crazy how low Barca will stoop to. I mean, how do you explain this? https://twitter.com/tenhagbali/status/1551637739128373248?s=21&t=8d50XdCCW0pmFe-DRRDesA Doesn't it count as a completed pass purely because the player touched it? The move would actually go down as a turnover on the receivers part.
July 26, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, axman2526 said: What's your point with this picture Dave? i posted this picture of Frankfurt supporters taking over Camp Nou to make me feel better
July 27, 20223 yr when I read this topic Jules c**t and Barcelona, I start to vomit. Edited July 27, 20223 yr by TheGermanOne
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