2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I think with us signing Cucurella for £60m, and what with Cucu's previous history with Potter, it was always quite likely that Chilwell was going to get less starts last season than if he was available and up against Alonso and Emerson. Chilwell missed 15 games, and so he was in the match day squad for 35 out of our 50 fixtures. Pretty good availability after a serious injury - got to side with Sconnie on this one !

He was also clearly being rotated with Cucurella before the WC. 

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Luke Shaw took years to recover. Seamus Coleman was never the same player after that injury and Gomes dropped off so badly that he ended up at Lille last season.

A lot of that is your subjective opinion.

The objective facts are that all three players fully recovered physically, which is evidenced by the number of games they played after their injuries. Your original point was in relation to the supposed risk of Fofana being injury prone due to his leg break, but those three players show there is no relationship between the two factors.

6 hours ago, evissy said:

Step in Lewi Colwill. Chalobah needs to stay also.

 

5 hours ago, Stockholm98 said:

Does FFP take this into regard? I take it that he is properly insured etc.

Anyway, hope that Colwill makes the most if this.

 

2 hours ago, Nibs said:

It seems not very.

Gutted for the lad as I do rate him, but this is a serious blow.

The only silver cloud is Colwill will now get plenty of game time so shouldn't be going anywhere.

 

Fofana is an RCB

Levi Colwil is an LCB

This news doesn’t really affect him per se.

The biggest question mark over Colwill and probably why Klopp has been calling him on his personal number is whether or not Badiashile is going to move from LCB to RCB (as Sconnie pointed out, he’s played there before for Monaco), so there’s a chance. We’ll see how it plays out. 

Edited July 18, 20233 yr by Term_X

6 minutes ago, Term_X said:

 

 

Fofana is an RCB

Levi Colwil is an LCB

This news doesn’t really affect him per se.

The biggest question mark over Colwill and probably why Klopp has been calling him on his personal number is whether or not Badiashile is going to move from LCB to RCB (as Sconnie pointed out, he’s played there before for Monaco), so there’s a chance. We’ll see how it plays out. 

Yeah he thrived there at youth level, his ability on the ball and positioning make him effective on either side. Elite players learn to manage, look at Rudiger. 

Edited July 18, 20233 yr by Sconnie Blue

Sorry for Fofana but that’s professional sport and Chelsea may have to replace him. 
 

Badiashile is also injured after the off season which astonishes me. 
james and Chilwell typically struggle to get half a season in. 
silva is way past it now. Wasn’t expected to play all the time in his first season with us let alone in his 3rd. 
chalobah might be a regular I guess  but I wouldn’t feel confident with only one right footed centre back. 

The only silver lining is that this has happened while the transfer window is open and there is still time yo fix it. 
 

1 minute ago, ozboy said:

Sorry for Fofana but that’s professional sport and Chelsea may have to replace him. 
 

Badiashile is also injured after the off season which astonishes me. 
james and Chilwell typically struggle to get half a season in. 
silva is way past it now. Wasn’t expected to play all the time in his first season with us let alone in his 3rd. 
chalobah might be a regular I guess  but I wouldn’t feel confident with only one right footed centre back. 

The only silver lining is that this has happened while the transfer window is open and there is still time yo fix it. 
 

Signing players isn't the solution for every problem, especially when most often than not it makes things worse in the long run. 

Even before Fofana's injury we were 1 CB too many. 

9 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Sorry for Fofana but that’s professional sport and Chelsea may have to replace him. 
 

Badiashile is also injured after the off season which astonishes me. 
james and Chilwell typically struggle to get half a season in. 
silva is way past it now. Wasn’t expected to play all the time in his first season with us let alone in his 3rd. 
chalobah might be a regular I guess  but I wouldn’t feel confident with only one right footed centre back. 

The only silver lining is that this has happened while the transfer window is open and there is still time yo fix it. 
 

Fair points.  I believe Badiashile's injury went back to the very end of season though, as was publicly reported by Chelsea on May 23.  At that time, Lampard said we were looking at months, not weeks, for his hamstring issue.  Shame. 

4 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

Fair points.  I believe Badiashile's injury went back to the very end of season though, as was publicly reported by Chelsea on May 23.  At that time, Lampard said we were looking at months, not weeks, for his hamstring issue.  Shame. 

Good point. 

I don't think we will buy a replacement unless someone top class is available at a fair price.

Without European football our load is a lot less, and Pochettino has Silva, Trev and even Reece to play RCB.

Bad luck to him, it will be a long road back. This is always the risk from 12 months ago, he's a good fit apart from his injury record. We even took him for a medical in US and still made the deal. Yes, it is bad luck, but hardly surprising. 

Colwill could easily make the starting CD his own if he's committed, we are fast running out of defenders.

11 hours ago, Kev56 said:

Doesn’t seem that long ago our medical staff and lack of injuries were the envy of the football world. 🤔

Yet another aspect of the running of our Club, that has become a car crash 🥴

1 hour ago, coombsie said:

Yet another aspect of the running of our Club, that has become a car crash 🥴

Surely we aren't trying to blame the owners for someone rupturing their ACL? lmao

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Surely we aren't trying to blame the owners for someone rupturing their ACL? lmao

I saw some moron on social media complaining that it was Potters fault for picking him, should have rested him as we knew he is injury prone....So dont play him and he will never get injured....amazing.

10 minutes ago, dkw said:

I saw some moron on social media complaining that it was Potters fault for picking him, should have rested him as we knew he is injury prone....So dont play him and he will never get injured....amazing.

 May I suggest not letting him train as well? 

Poor guy cannot catch a break, fingers crossed surgery goes well and he recovers in time to at least feature a little towards the back end of this upcoming season.



Looking ahead to the PL returning, do we think we'll see Chalobah + Colwill start GW1? I worry about Silva in a back four, especially against an attack like Liverpool's.

8 minutes ago, dkw said:

I saw some moron on social media complaining that it was Potters fault for picking him, should have rested him as we knew he is injury prone....So dont play him and he will never get injured....amazing.

No but I do blame them for buying a player with a significant injury history and issues significant enough to require a second opinion. I am not at all anti the owners and I am sure we will end up in a strong position. Nevertheless this  was a questionable decision from the start. Medicals need to be reliable. Maybe there is the odd error, but at first blush our medical team has been a bit average last few years. 

4 minutes ago, Valerie said:

 May I suggest not letting him train as well? 

Its foolproof.

I like him as a player.  He made some mistakes playing last season, but who didnt? [well Thiago, Thiago didnt, anyways], but Wes was feisty and aggressive and i liked his commitment and speed at the back. Good player.  Showed some loyalty.  Now he's got injured. Sad, but true.  It is simply, bad luck.  Nobody is really to blame.  He had a previous injury, but that is in no way predictive of his current injury.  It is just bad luck.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

Its foolproof.

Probably not, he appears to have Ledley Kingitus, and could rupture a joint or ligament getting off the chair.

The guys injury record is horrendous going back to his Leicester days he could barely string a few games together without an injury seems silly splashing that amount on him in hindsight with that in mind. Definitely need a stop gap can’t rely on Silva and Badiashille with there injury records either leaving us only with Colwill

2 hours ago, ozboy said:

No but I do blame them for buying a player with a significant injury history and issues significant enough to require a second opinion. I am not at all anti the owners and I am sure we will end up in a strong position. Nevertheless this  was a questionable decision from the start. Medicals need to be reliable. Maybe there is the odd error, but at first blush our medical team has been a bit average last few years. 

Actually Todd insisted that Fofana fly out to America for his medical, seem to remember Tuchel moaning about jetlag when he returned

 

21/22     Fibula Fracture                  Aug 4, 2021         Mar 15, 2022      223 days              41

20/21     Thigh Muscle Strain         Feb 3, 2021         Mar 1, 2021         26 days                 8

20/21     Knee Injury                         Dec 27, 2020       Jan 2, 2021          6 days                   1

20/21     Knee Injury                         Nov 9, 2020         Nov 21, 2020      12 days                 0

Thats his injury record with Leicester, so hardly horrendous when you take out the big one for the broken leg. 9 games missed to injury in total.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wesley-fofana/verletzungen/spieler/475411

1 hour ago, dan_cfc said:

The guys injury record is horrendous going back to his Leicester days he could barely string a few games together without an injury seems silly splashing that amount on him in hindsight with that in mind. Definitely need a stop gap can’t rely on Silva and Badiashille with there injury records either leaving us only with Colwill

Acquaint yourself with some facts. As per dkw's post.

Another silver lining as well as Colwill staying is Trev will likely stay as cover now !

People are calling us incompetent for signing, but I don't think it's the first time a club has bought a player with previous injuries in the hope that his talent will outweigh the injuries.