My concern around this is identifying how this ACL injury occurred.

If this had happened by being snapped in a tackle and has been caught at a funny angle then I can see him returning without it necessarily hampering him. If, however,  this has occurred during training or just exercise and he has twisted awkwardly or caught himself, then I would be quite concerned.  If this has arisen from his natural body movement then I would expect him to always be susceptible which will surely get into his head as well which will naturally affect his aggressiveness on confidence in running and turning.

4 hours ago, dermott said:

Acquaint yourself with some facts. As per dkw's post.

Yeah that many knee injuries in a short space of time is nothing to worry about at all is it

1 hour ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

People are calling us incompetent for signing, but I don't think it's the first time a club has bought a player with previous injuries in the hope that his talent will outweigh the injuries. 

No it’s not the first and won’t be the last but that doesn’t change the fact that the injury record makes it more of a gamble. It’s particularly frustrating in that there were obviously enough issues to require a second opinion on the USA. The fact is we were desperate for a defender, missed out on what’s his name who chose Bayern, missed out or didn’t pursue Gvardiol and ended up with a bill of goods. 

it’s a shame. 
Pulisic is regularly injured and had a poor injury record when bought

Chilwell  was recovering from an injury when bought, was regularly missing parts of the season with Leicester 

My point is we need a much firmer policy on this, particularly with long term contracts  

 

47 minutes ago, dan_cfc said:

Yeah that many knee injuries in a short space of time is nothing to worry about at all is it

Doesn't look like his knees were a massive problem previously.

It sure is now, 126 days out since joining us with knee injuries.

Now a disaster knee injury gonna keep him out for most of the season.

What sh*t luck for the guy snd the club

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

Doesn't look like his knees were a massive problem previously.

It sure is now, 126 days out since joining us with knee injuries.

Now a disaster knee injury gonna keep him out for most of the season.

What sh*t luck for the guy snd the club

Actually, I didn't see the bottom of that table, the knee crops up a lot to be fair 

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

No it’s not the first and won’t be the last but that doesn’t change the fact that the injury record makes it more of a gamble. It’s particularly frustrating in that there were obviously enough issues to require a second opinion on the USA. The fact is we were desperate for a defender, missed out on what’s his name who chose Bayern, missed out or didn’t pursue Gvardiol and ended up with a bill of goods. 

it’s a shame. 
Pulisic is regularly injured and had a poor injury record when bought

Chilwell  was recovering from an injury when bought, was regularly missing parts of the season with Leicester 

My point is we need a much firmer policy on this, particularly with long term contracts  

 

OK. How about Reece James? If he plays a month or two and performs at the top level but then sustains another medium term injury. Do you then look to off-load him?

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1 hour ago, just said:

OK. How about Reece James? If he plays a month or two and performs at the top level but then sustains another medium term injury. Do you then look to off-load him?

I sure as heck look to have a backup that is good enough for  top 4 aspirations at a minimum. Reece could be easily be captain of the team but not if he is going to miss half of every season.

I'd be interested in other views but for mine a good team will be a dependable team where the guys on the field trust each other. If you always feel like you are just a stand in till the star comes back is that a good system.

So actually I think this is, excuse the words, a bit of a make or break season for Reece. What do you think?

I don't see it as a make or break season, it's probably one for the likes of Colwill and Cucurella ( that's another debate). The quality of James is not in discussion, any big club would bid for him if he's on the market. It's about his fitness and health management, I don't see him playing 2 games a week. Luckily, this season we may just be get away with playing James once a week. We rushed him last season because result was so poor and no replacement, hopefully we are better covered this season, and not crying out for James to rescue us.

22 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Surely we aren't trying to blame the owners for someone rupturing their ACL? lmao

I was referring to the shocking record the Club has with players suffering injuries and the lack of a top quality medical and remedial team that is  able to get players back into action in a reasonable time frame.

1 hour ago, coombsie said:

I was referring to the shocking record the Club has with players suffering injuries and the lack of a top quality medical and remedial team that is  able to get players back into action in a reasonable time frame.

Broja came back from his ACL rupture in record time. 

Injuries happen, more so when the team was as unfit as it was last season. 

12 hours ago, dan_cfc said:

Yeah that many knee injuries in a short space of time is nothing to worry about at all is it

You said "The guys injury record is horrendous going back to his Leicester days he could barely string a few games" and this shows that you were wrong. he missed 1 game in his first season due to knee injuries. 

Now if you had said the amount of knee injuries was a worry then thats more justifiable than saying he hardly managed to string games together.

 

9 hours ago, ozboy said:

I sure as heck look to have a backup that is good enough for  top 4 aspirations at a minimum. 
 

I`snt that what we have just signed in Gusto?

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Broja came back from his ACL rupture in record time. 

Injuries happen, more so when the team was as unfit as it was last season. 

I think thats something thats been missed with all these injuries, all the blame is on the medical staff, but it was obvious that from the start of the season the teams fitness was very questionable, we looked knackered after 20 minutes in games, so was this down to a poorly built preseason training schedule? That needs factored in for the injury record we have in my opinion.

The guy is finished before his career has begun, sad, but that's the way it is and we'd do well to move on from what has been a disastrous signing so far. sh*t luck for the player terrible judgement from the board to go near a player with a track record of hospital visits. 

Kurt Zouma was never the same. Neither will this guy be, Time for big Trev to step up and fill his boots which is what should have happened before we signed the unfortunate Fofana. 

3 hours ago, dkw said:

I`snt that what we have just signed in Gusto?

Yes. 

This is interesting, it's liked by Fofana himself so who knows, it would be great to have him back as long as we're not rushing his recovery given he wasn't supposed to be out for the season.

Doubtful. 6 months isn't enough recovery time/rehabilitation from an ACL injury. 

WHo's this guy? Does he play for us?

15 hours ago, Zeta said:

WHo's this guy? Does he play for us?

Who are you talking about? Wesley N'kunku or Christopher Fofana?

It's good that we have finally got Reece Chilwell back, but it's still gonna be a while until we see Ben James again.

Hopefully Carney Colwill and Levi Chukwumeka are back shortly.

 

 

45 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

 

That is a very encouraging update. Maybe he has a chance of coming back in the first part of 2024 after all?

16 minutes ago, forbzy said:

That is a very encouraging update. Maybe he has a chance of coming back in the first part of 2024 after all?

Mental 

2 hours ago, forbzy said:

That is a very encouraging update. Maybe he has a chance of coming back in the first part of 2024 after all?

Nah, he won't be back and playing for a long time yet. It's similar to Van Dijk at Liverpool. He returned to individual training 4 months after his ACL surgery, but he still never played another game that season. 

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We're stacked for CB's. Get him back to full fitness and let Silva + 1 (Disasi/Badiashile/Colwill/Trev) play the rest of the games this season. 

Can he finally stay fit for an extended period? If so, is he one of our best two CBS?