14 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Yup, it would be Sarri-ball part 2, except Sarri has actually managed to get average squads playing great football at Napoli and Lazio, whilst getting good results. I geniunely have no idea why Enrique is being hailed as a world class coach.  

Pep is hailed as a world class coach and has always had the best players at his disposal. Eveey coach has faults and isn't perfect. Maybe Ancelotti should have had Everton fighting top four considering he's a world class coach. Doesn't always work that way does it. Ranieri isn't world class and he won the PL with little old Leicester. I guess he's better than Ancelotti then because he took an average PL side and won the league. 

Mourinho, world class coach, when he returned to chelsea took us to four pts above relegation zone at one point too ffs, with a pretty good team too consisting of Fabregas, Costa, Hazard, Terry,  Azpi, Cahill, Ivanovic, Willian etc. World class managers aren't always going to have it easy, just because they have won big trophies.

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For short term Frank is a good option. He is like the Guus Hiddink of 2023 without all the managerial prestige and skill. 

The man is trusted and knows Chelsea. What could go wrong really. 

The risk is, he manages to win the Champions League and we then either go with the manager we hired for long term (like Nagelsmann or Enrique) or stick with Frank, which for me is not a smart move. 

Would be pretty horrible for Nagelsmann to take over the squad that just won CL and the club legend is just kicked out. Lose 3 games in a row and your head is on the table.

I think I could suffer thst scenario to be fair !!

Can anyone tell me if Enzo is similar in style to Lampard? Was just thinking Lamps could be a really good influence on Enzo, helping him to improve even more. 

Edited April 6, 20233 yr by enigma

44 minutes ago, enigma said:

Can anyone tell me if Enzo is similar in style to Lampard? Was just thinking Lamps could be a really good influence on Enzo, helping him to improve even more. 

Hmmm..there are similarities in my book. Frank is lot closer to being like Enzo than Kante for example. I think Frank was a classic number 8 but Enzo is more of a 6... don't know...

2 hours ago, evissy said:

Hmmm..there are similarities in my book. Frank is lot closer to being like Enzo than Kante for example. I think Frank was a classic number 8 but Enzo is more of a 6... don't know...

I did think Frank and Enzo were similar too. I know it doesn't always work that way with all of a sudden Enzo becomes Frank regen under his tutelage.

I just thought it interesting that Lampard could potentially improve Enzo further, especially with goal scoring from midfield

7 minutes ago, enigma said:

I just thought it interesting that Lampard could potentially improve Enzo further, especially with goal scoring from midfield

It may just be a question of how you play him positionally ? Thus far, he has played pretty much as our deepest midfielder.

We haven't seen it in Europe (either here or Benfica) but in his last season at River Plate he did score 10 goals in 26 appearances, so you'd have to think he does have goal scoring ability in his locker. 

It's why I'd like to see him play with Zakaria, who is the most natural DM in the squad, and has the discipline to hold the position, allowing Fernandez a free "box-to-box" role to best influence the game.

If we had any chance of Ancelotti in the summer,I would say stuff all the names above, I would welcome him back in a heartbeat.

4 hours ago, enigma said:

Pep is hailed as a world class coach and has always had the best players at his disposal. Eveey coach has faults and isn't perfect. Maybe Ancelotti should have had Everton fighting top four considering he's a world class coach. Doesn't always work that way does it. Ranieri isn't world class and he won the PL with little old Leicester. I guess he's better than Ancelotti then because he took an average PL side and won the league. 

Mourinho, world class coach, when he returned to chelsea took us to four pts above relegation zone at one point too ffs, with a pretty good team too consisting of Fabregas, Costa, Hazard, Terry,  Azpi, Cahill, Ivanovic, Willian etc. World class managers aren't always going to have it easy, just because they have won big trophies.

Pep has still had that success with multiple teams, even if they were all good. And aside from his 2009 squad, I don't think anything is comparable to having the best strikeforce in the history of football.

 

Prime Suarez nearly won a the Prem all by himself, add in neymar (arguably the 3rd best player of this generation) and prime Messi and it'd be hard not to win the Champions League to be honest. 

I wouldn’t be averse to a focused Conte again, proven winner, and if he was winning Boehly would pander to most of his whims…..loved his passion, falling out with Diego signalled the sh*tstorm that ensued….

The appointment of Frank tells me we don't have any concrete leads on a permanent manager. If Nags'man or Enrique seriously wanted the position,  they NEED to be here now. If CFC truly made an offer to them, they need to make it a point that they need to be here, now. 

 

In reality,  our preseason for next season is already well underway. I truly think if Frank does well, he is in line for next season. IF he does well and the team clicks for him, I'd argue that should be the case. Everton was toxic for reasons that weren't all down to Frank. 

Enrique wants to start in the summer and Nagelsmann has contract issues with Bayern. 

2 hours ago, Bluesince66 said:

If we had any chance of Ancelotti in the summer,I would say stuff all the names above, I would welcome him back in a heartbeat.

If we still had our UCL winning squad plus Enzo he would be a serious option but as it i'd rather we explored that option in a few years if the timing works, we currently have multiple young players that need micro coaching and he's not that type of manager.

45 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Enrique wants to start in the summer

Is that confirmed?

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

If we still had our UCL winning squad plus Enzo he would be a serious option but as it i'd rather we explored that option in a few years if the timing works, we currently have multiple young players that need micro coaching and he's not that type of manager.

Is that confirmed?

No. Something I read that his intermediaries stated he preferred to start in the summer. 

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

No. Something I read that his intermediaries stated he preferred to start in the summer. 

Hopefully that's the case then. I'm starting to warm to the idea of Frank as an interim but i can't truly relax until i know for a fact it won't lead to another permanent spell.

21 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Nah @Valeriehas a very sultry and seductive voice, and has mastered several accents from the company her leading man keeps:

Can't see the attraction myself.

Nice name though

49 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Can't see the attraction myself.

Nice name though

Cannot see the attraction to @Valerie?!! Have you never seen her modeling shots?:

3 hours ago, ross91690 said:

The appointment of Frank tells me we don't have any concrete leads on a permanent manager. If Nags'man or Enrique seriously wanted the position,  they NEED to be here now. If CFC truly made an offer to them, they need to make it a point that they need to be here, now. 

 

In reality,  our preseason for next season is already well underway. I truly think if Frank does well, he is in line for next season. IF he does well and the team clicks for him, I'd argue that should be the case. Everton was toxic for reasons that weren't all down to Frank. 

Frank isnt a world class coach. As an interim coach fine but we shouldnt entertain any idea of him becoming a permanent coach. People have short memories

4 hours ago, ross91690 said:

The appointment of Frank tells me we don't have any concrete leads on a permanent manager. If Nags'man or Enrique seriously wanted the position,  they NEED to be here now. If CFC truly made an offer to them, they need to make it a point that they need to be here, now. 

 

In reality,  our preseason for next season is already well underway. I truly think if Frank does well, he is in line for next season. IF he does well and the team clicks for him, I'd argue that should be the case. Everton was toxic for reasons that weren't all down to Frank. 

I don't know... 

Julian or Luis Enrique could get burnt off if they can't adapt the team to their playstile. So much to lose and so little to win in these last 8 games for them

Personally and unrealistically I'd love to get Mourinho or Conte back but the first one is happy at Rome and the second one wants to train in Italy. 

Realistically Luis Enrique is my favourite. Top Class coach who already knows what is to win almost any trophy and made my country play so well in International Football with a terrible generation.  

I personally think that Spalletti could have a chance. 

He has been close to Chelsea in the past, when he was the manager of Roma, and afaik there could be a package of the guy who does the players trading + him + Osimhen to Chelsea.

I do think that he is a terrific manager, better than many other who are being evaluated or mentioned. Makes his teams play well, but without the need for significant time to adjust to the new system (which I feel that would be needed with LE). 

The decision to appoint Frankie could also be related to his need to finish the season with Napoli.

If not him, I do like Pochettino. Best option would've been to keep Tuchel, but never mind...

On 05/04/2023 at 19:06, ross91690 said:

I love Frank, but this is a joke. Even in interim capacity,  what does this accomplish?

 

Say we go on a run...what then? 

It wins the owners/Board time to come up with a genuine plan for the future. If there was any prospect of Chelsea getting relegated, they wouldn't have let Frank anywhere near Stamford Bridge. A few Brownie points with the fans after the Potter disaster won't hurt either.

2 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

Personally and unrealistically I'd love to get Mourinho or Conte back but the first one is happy at Rome and the second one wants to train in Italy. 

Realistically Luis Enrique is my favourite. Top Class coach who already knows what is to win almost any trophy and made my country play so well in International Football with a terrible generation.  

Mate, Luis Enrique has the third worst winning percentage in official games (~50% excluding friendlies) of all our coaches since 1982… and we’ve played really boring football under him after Aragonés or Del Bosque had us playing really good football. And worst teams we had in the 80s and 90s.

5 minutes ago, RMH said:

Mate, Luis Enrique has the third worst winning percentage in official games (~50% excluding friendlies) of all our coaches since 1982… and we’ve played really boring football under him after Aragonés or Del Bosque had us playing really good football. And worst teams we had in the 80s and 90s.

Semi unrelated but out of interest based on what you've seen for Spain would you be happy if we put our name in the hat for Gavi if his contract situation at Barca can't be sorted?

4 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

Frank isnt a world class coach. As an interim coach fine but we shouldnt entertain any idea of him becoming a permanent coach. People have short memories

Somoe people in this forum is deluded