1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

When he's having to hear 'f*ck Sarri-ball' chants every week whilst being in the top 4 all season I can imagine he didn't feel welcome here

True, where is that passion from our fans now? Was only there a year ago for the super league, but now nothing for Todd and co or our many players who don't give 2 sh*ts?

12 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

He could be a CL winning manager come the end of the season. 

He has to get them to the final otherwise it is a failure imo.

Apparently Naples is already celebrating just from being about to win the league, he's made history there regardless. Though they should beat Milan and Inter/Benfica

Just now, Drogba1 said:

Apparently Naples is already celebrating just from being about to win the league, he's made history there regardless. Though they should beat Milan and Inter/Benfica

Oh yeah the fans won't hokd it against him if they get knocked out by Milan. Just even with how sh*t we are I would still expect us to make the final if we were in Napolis spot of the draw, and they are much better than we are.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Mod said:

I'm going to completely change my tune from when Tuchel was sacked and I wanted Zidane!

I think we need Jose or Carlo back, a manager that can apply a quick fix to this team and put this whole 'project' nonsense on hold for a season or two!

I wouldn't want to risk either a too-young manager or one that hasn't a clue about this league, cause we'll probably be sitting in the same boat next season!

Make JT assistant to rally that dressing room and bring one of the old boys back as the boss!

I absolutely disagree. Lampard wanted to phase out Jorgi, Azpi. Tuchel took over and those two were back on starting 11. 

6 hours ago, Bob stark said:

 

 

 

I absolutely disagree. Lampard wanted to phase out Jorgi, Azpi. Tuchel took over and those two were back on starting 11. 

Lampard could win the majority of our remaining games and I’d still not want him. He’s had his time as our coach. He also phased out Tomori and rudiger as well by the way. 

I would either sign Enrique or Nagelsmann but there is a slight problem with the identity of their football. Chelsea for the most successful years have identified as a team with excellent keeper and solid defense. Neither of the two is an advocate of defensive football. Both like high pressing ball control football. 

Excellent keeper we don't have, just two good ones. Defensive players we do have. I think our centerbacks are good enough. Left and right backs also.

Now I am not saying we can't change the identity of the club but it is damn hard. It would need either of the above mentioned to take over and be very successful right away. With the young core I don't see that being very probable. Arteta is doing that right now but it took some 15 years to make it happen for Arsenal. MU is going on 10 years without any success. Both have the history and the wealth. 

 

7 hours ago, Bob stark said:

 

 

 

I absolutely disagree. Lampard wanted to phase out Jorgi, Azpi. Tuchel took over and those two were back on starting 11. 

I’m not sure what that had to do with my post, maybe you misquoted?

Next manager won't matter in my opinion, if you don't have the right people up top very little good happens.

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Next manager won't matter in my opinion, if you don't have the right people up top very little good happens.

Many managers didn't really have the right people up top and yet they made their teams bigger, you can argue one of them being SAF himself. So a good manager might be the only thing we need actually.

Get Roy Hodgson in. He has Palace scoring for fun after a week of training 🤣.

1 hour ago, ross91690 said:

Get Roy Hodgson in. He has Palace scoring for fun after a week of training 🤣.

Only 6 points behind us. Need to be looking over our shoulder. 

I think that Nagelsmann has to be the one they have in mind. The alternative doesn't seem to make sense. If you are giving Lampard a free hit then why not do this for Enrique or Pochettino. Both aavailable and if a free rein is being given then they could have assessed the squad during this period before the summer. Whereas if there remains a lien over Nagelsmann's contract (although I can't see how that can be legal) then it kind of makes sense to wait for the end of the season and bring in somebody like Lampard to cover the remainder of the season.

So I reckon it will be Nagelsmann.

19 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I think that Nagelsmann has to be the one they have in mind. The alternative doesn't seem to make sense. If you are giving Lampard a free hit then why not do this for Enrique or Pochettino. Both aavailable and if a free rein is being given then they could have assessed the squad during this period before the summer. Whereas if there remains a lien over Nagelsmann's contract (although I can't see how that can be legal) then it kind of makes sense to wait for the end of the season and bring in somebody like Lampard to cover the remainder of the season.

So I reckon it will be Nagelsmann.

They probably don't want to come in looking at our fixtures even with the off chance of UCL.

A plausible worst case scenario is a meek exit to Real and losing atleast half the league games which will mean instead of the optimism and sense of fresh hope a pre season appointment will bring they'll be question marks around the new guy.

According to a few of the Chelsea YouTubers  Nagelsmann is unsure if he wants to come to Chelsea, not being fully convinced by the project (Backing of Potter not lasting as long as expected) and wanting to wait and see if Real and PSG come knocking.

Bayern are also said to be "upset" with pur price tag for Anthony Barry.

Luis Enrique is apparently desperate for the job and has again been talking with owners and directors to emphasis how much he wants the job, is taking English lessons and has outlined his plans for every player in the squad and how he plans to develop us.

39 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

According to a few of the Chelsea YouTubers  Nagelsmann is unsure if he wants to come to Chelsea, not being fully convinced by the project (Backing of Potter not lasting as long as expected) and wanting to wait and see if Real and PSG come knocking.

Bayern are also said to be "upset" with pur price tag for Anthony Barry.

Luis Enrique is apparently desperate for the job and has again been talking with owners and directors to emphasis how much he wants the job, is taking English lessons and has outlined his plans for every player in the squad and how he plans to develop us.

At first, I thought Nagelsmann was given but the more I read he seems similar to Pep who would prefer a team where things upstairs are already a well-oiled machine vs the mess we currently are. Luis Enrique is looking more like the frontrunner now unless Real or PSG look elsewhere. Personally dont want Enrique because it means we will continue playing this boring slow build up possession game.

Edited April 9, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard

4 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Personally dont want Enrique because it means we will continue playing this boring slow build up possession game.

That's unlikely, given that his Roma, Celta and Barcelona teams were all based of an almost-suicidal press and counter-attacking kind of style. 

20 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

That's unlikely, given that his Roma, Celta and Barcelona teams were all based of an almost-suicidal press and counter-attacking kind of style. 

Sounds interesting. I wonder if he does line up with what we want. Apparently he wants a long term project to get his teeth in to.

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

That's unlikely, given that his Roma, Celta and Barcelona teams were all based of an almost-suicidal press and counter-attacking kind of style. 

Fair but his most recent team, Spain didn't play that way so that was kind of what I was basing it off. Hopefully, he plays the way he did at those clubs because I will pull my hair out if we have to go another season of passing 20 times around the box.

Edited April 10, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard

7 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

At first, I thought Nagelsmann was given but the more I read he seems similar to Pep who would prefer a team where things upstairs are already a well-oiled machine vs the mess we currently are. Luis Enrique is looking more like the frontrunner now unless Real or PSG look elsewhere. Personally dont want Enrique because it means we will continue playing this boring slow build up possession game.

Imo on paper Pochettino is the best pick. 

Enrique hasn't coached in club environment for a while so that is a red flag but he doesn't do anything crazy so he should be OK. 

But for your prefence, Nagelsmann is the guy at least for short term. You won't get bored. Crazy offensive, winger as wb, narrow, gung ho, high press. 

 

Edited April 10, 20233 yr by Bob stark

Looks like the new 🤠 owners may have shot themselves in the foot...

Which top manager with a pedigree, apart from JM or maybe Conte would want the job with no CL, no prospect of signing a top striker and all the mess that needs sorting out?

 

Amazing job by Roy Hodgson 😁

 

Edited April 10, 20233 yr by Bebe1980

It is interesting to see which route the owners take with the new manager. We tried the no-pedigree manager route with Potter. Are they going to do that again? Or will they continue with what Roman did for 20 years, hire a top name that is on everyone's lips. 

Nagelsmann, Enrique and Zidane are the big names right now. 

In terms of Champions League I don't actually think it makes that much of a difference. The salary, the league and the squad all say we are one of the worlds biggest clubs. The next logical step for the new manager here is to get back to Champions League and not winning the Premier League title. 

Nagelsmann and Enrique both speak English so they can easily communicate with the team. Zidane doesn't speak English so I would think it would be very hard for him...can be done but do you want that extra hill in front of you. 

I think clubs are looking managers who are known but are not Jose Mourinho. Everyone knows what he does. This is why we signed Potter. We wanted someone who could take the next step. Roman did that with Sarri. AVB was in that bracket as well. It is hard but not impossible. Pep and Arteta are both those guys. Took the job (Barcelona, Arsenal) and are thriving. 

A) bring in a big name

B) hire someone that is up for the next step

C) something else 

Don’t know if this is true or not but saw this:

 

Luis Enrique Updates:

He wants a mobile striker
A player leading the middle
Players playing on the sides
- He wants guarantees that he will have time to apply his style of play
- The decision-maker in the transfer market

Julian Naglesmann updates:

- Priority No. 1 within the Chelsea management and favorite coach for Winstanley, Stewart and Fifle
- He will travel to London this month for talks with the administration
- He wants to sign a goalkeeper, a pivot player and a striker

Via -  @AgentD_HotDay

2 hours ago, JM7 said:

Don’t know if this is true or not but saw this:

 

Luis Enrique Updates:

He wants a mobile striker
A player leading the middle
Players playing on the sides
- He wants guarantees that he will have time to apply his style of play
- The decision-maker in the transfer market

Julian Naglesmann updates:

- Priority No. 1 within the Chelsea management and favorite coach for Winstanley, Stewart and Fifle
- He will travel to London this month for talks with the administration
- He wants to sign a goalkeeper, a pivot player and a striker

Via -  @AgentD_HotDay

Both of those look like ok perspectives to me.

Maybe it is time for Todd to appoint co-managers LOL

We find ourselves in a situation now where Boehly and Co need to start thinking what would RA and Marina do in this scenario. I'm convinced we would never be here under their stewardship, but if we were they would make the right appointment. 

I think Nagelsmann is what Boehly and Co wanted from Potter, but they are two completely different classes of managers. I could see both Enrique and Nagelsmann working out, but also struggling. It's all about getting the right structure in place now and working out the best fit for the club moving forward. We cannot afford to mess this appointment up. 

Choose the right coach and we should win at least 1-2 league titles in the next 5 seasons and be a contender again for the UCL. I wouldn't expect this however, until after a couple of seasons.

Either way I'm happy with one of those two coaches, I think both flourish under the right conditions within a long-term project. Were Nagelsmann to be appointed it reminds me of Pep joining City in the respect we would have people upstairs he's worked with and know how to get the best out of him. 

Enrique looks like a RA and Marina appointment to me, he has his PowerPoint like TT had when he joined. He has the pedigree and CV to get us exactly where we want to be. Plus brings the Tiki Taka style we have desired for so long. 

I think both are ideal and the fact they have both identified striker and DM as priority positions makes me happy. Provided we finally give our coaches their number one targets in the areas needing improvements I could see big positives. 

I also want to add, the reason why these two are the ideal appointments and would follow RA's MO for coaches is that despite wanting to be part of long-term projects like TT, Conte, Mourinho and Anceolotti I see both these men as coaches that would still try to win the league and any other competition we are in despite being in the rebuild process. This imo is crucial in us trying to find our identity again and stick to our club DNA.

7 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

where Boehly and Co need to start thinking what would RA and Marina do in this scenario.

Nae chance. 

Man's ego way too big for that.