58 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

If I’m Pochettino then I’d want in the door asap. 
The season is over. Perfect opportunity to see who he wants kept or sold before the season finishes

There are 2 advantages to bringing in Pochettino now (assuming he takes the job):

1) He gets to look over some of the players now and maybe have a say before we sell off a bunch in the summer.

2) The players would know he is the permanent boss and so might actually perform knowing that their future playing time is at stake. One of the issues Frank has now as caretaker is that the players know they have little to gain by impressing him.

That being said I am not convinced any manager would have a massive impact in the remaining fixtures. The problems have been created over the whole mess of the season. We have a chunk of the squad that is looking at the exit door. Some key players who have already seen their seasons over through injury, and a few other key players that are still working their way back to match fitness after long term absences. Then there are a bunch of the new signings (Madueke, Carney, D. Fofana etc.) who have barely featured and have had pretty well zero minutes of competitive football for months. As a result they are not match fit and would likely perform poorly if picked.

The main risk is if Pochettino did start now, and we still failed to manage a win in our last 6 games. It potentially sets him up badly before next season is even underway. Once Clearlake had decided to part ways with Potter, they should have had the permanent replacement lined up, or they could have stuck with Potter while they identified the replacement.  After all Potter had actually enjoyed an improved run of results before the defeat that led to him being shown the door. Would it have been the end of the world to let him see out the season?

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

There are 2 advantages to bringing in Pochettino now (assuming he takes the job):

1) He gets to look over some of the players now and maybe have a say before we sell off a bunch in the summer.

2) The players would know he is the permanent boss and so might actually perform knowing that their future playing time is at stake. One of the issues Frank has now as caretaker is that the players know they have little to gain by impressing him.

That being said I am not convinced any manager would have a massive impact in the remaining fixtures. The problems have been created over the whole mess of the season. We have a chunk of the squad that is looking at the exit door. Some key players who have already seen their seasons over through injury, and a few other key players that are still working their way back to match fitness after long term absences. Then there are a bunch of the new signings (Madueke, Carney, D. Fofana etc.) who have barely featured and have had pretty well zero minutes of competitive football for months. As a result they are not match fit and would likely perform poorly if picked.

The main risk is if Pochettino did start now, and we still failed to manage a win in our last 6 games. It potentially sets him up badly before next season is even underway. Once Clearlake had decided to part ways with Potter, they should have had the permanent replacement lined up, or they could have stuck with Potter while they identified the replacement.  After all Potter had actually enjoyed an improved run of results before the defeat that led to him being shown the door. Would it have been the end of the world to let him see out the season?

I get the feeling the squad just want some direction now and Lampard isn’t the one who should or can give it.

Getting him in now allows him to be upfront with the many players he’ll want to move on before the end of the season and boost others confidence that they’ll be part of squad next season . It’s going to be a massive rebuild again with maybe 3 coming in and as many as 12 moving on. It’s a testament to the ludicrous recruitment over the season that our rebuild is predominantly players leaving rather than arriving.

Its going to take a bit of time to move on several of these players so the quicker they know the better chance we have of not being saddled with 4 or 5 of them next season who have little chance of playing. 

If Frank gets the tic tac looks like Bruno would return for interim interim ? 
 

Coaching staff from club site 

2 minutes ago, General said:

If Frank gets the tic tac looks like Bruno would return for interim interim ? 
 

Coaching staff from club site 

Think Bruno is on gardening leave - not seen him around on match days or in pics/videos of training 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Think Bruno is on gardening leave - not seen him around on match days or in pics/videos of training 

Think the whole squad is on gardening leave, haven't seen them turn up for matchdays for a while

Whoever thinks we are going anywhere at all (bar perhaps the Championship) are deluding themselves. How often have we not seen a young talent from abroad come into this league, take a huge hit to their confidence and then never turn it around? For a young lad it's very hard to turn it around unless you go and do it at another club but if one thinks Mudryk, Madueke, Fofana, Badiashile, even Enzo and the other youngsters we have bought will suddenly rock up next season and look great they are out of touch with reality.
Chances are that they will go down the Werner, Havertz, Sancho, Pepe route and never kick on after this kind of a start for all of them.

I think as it stands now I would let Silva manage the team for the remaining games,he would probably do a better job,I'm with those who wouldn't want Pochettino tarnished with this sh*t for the remaining games.

Another f**king mistakes from the clowns who own the club. Getting Frank back to please the fans only to have him lose everything single match 🤣🤣🤡🤡 you couldn’t make this sh*t up really.

Even though i didn't want Potter gone when he was, i never expected Frank to return. When he did i had some optimism given how he did with us first time around.

Maybe i was giving him too much credit. Maybe it was Jody Morris that was the real brains behind that period/partnership. I generally felt judging him on his time at Everton was harsh. 

Right now i am beginning to understand that he's not good enough. Not sure why he thought that lineup was acceptable against Brentford who weren't in good form going into that game. 

Doing it in front of home fans too, that just takes the piss. He has annoyed me with that choice of lineup and tactics last night, in a game that was winnable. 

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32 minutes ago, enigma said:

Even though i didn't want Potter gone when he was, i never expected Frank to return. When he did i had some optimism given how he did with us first time around.

Maybe i was giving him too much credit. Maybe it was Jody Morris that was the real brains behind that period/partnership. I generally felt judging him on his time at Everton was harsh. 

Right now i am beginning to understand that he's not good enough. Not sure why he thought that lineup was acceptable against Brentford who weren't in good form going into that game. 

Doing it in front of home fans too, that just takes the piss. He has annoyed me with that choice of lineup and tactics last night, in a game that was winnable. 

A lot of rose-tinted glasses around Frank (utterly brilliant as a player for us but that's not what he's here for), he was an average manager for us first time round, everyone gave him a pass due to transfer ban and blooding youth first season which to an extent was fair enough but the second season it was obvious he was out of his depth with how many goals we were shipping and tuchel coming in and getting the guys organised and not conceding as well as winning the champ league on merit showed that. This time round he's a car crash and showing more and more he is simply not cut out tactically for this level. 

5 hours ago, forbzy said:

There are 2 advantages to bringing in Pochettino now (assuming he takes the job):

1) He gets to look over some of the players now and maybe have a say before we sell off a bunch in the summer.

2) The players would know he is the permanent boss and so might actually perform knowing that their future playing time is at stake. One of the issues Frank has now as caretaker is that the players know they have little to gain by impressing him.

That being said I am not convinced any manager would have a massive impact in the remaining fixtures. The problems have been created over the whole mess of the season. We have a chunk of the squad that is looking at the exit door. Some key players who have already seen their seasons over through injury, and a few other key players that are still working their way back to match fitness after long term absences. Then there are a bunch of the new signings (Madueke, Carney, D. Fofana etc.) who have barely featured and have had pretty well zero minutes of competitive football for months. As a result they are not match fit and would likely perform poorly if picked.

The main risk is if Pochettino did start now, and we still failed to manage a win in our last 6 games. It potentially sets him up badly before next season is even underway. Once Clearlake had decided to part ways with Potter, they should have had the permanent replacement lined up, or they could have stuck with Potter while they identified the replacement.  After all Potter had actually enjoyed an improved run of results before the defeat that led to him being shown the door. Would it have been the end of the world to let him see out the season?

There is 0 advantage of bringing Pochettino right now. The season is done,all of the players are in beach mode.You can't implement anything,you can't improve anything and as you said you can't even pick player thay you want to play.

If you want to let Pochettino to look at the player,just record some training session and send him the video.

 

 

59 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

There is 0 advantage of bringing Pochettino right now. The season is done,all of the players are in beach mode.You can't implement anything,you can't improve anything and as you said you can't even pick player thay you want to play.

If you want to let Pochettino to look at the player,just record some training session and send him the video.

 

 

You can be 100% sure that Pochettino - if he's still interested in the job - has been all over the squad in forensic detail. He will have a very good idea of who he wants to keep and who not to keep. 

Even if Pochettino comes in, without a center forward and a back up one who can both score goals, we will be looking for another manager come Christmas. 

We need  a goal scorer to make the whole team believe they can turn it around. A manager on his own is not going to fix this. Goals will create confidence,  although not this season , nothings going to change the players mentality now. 

If you watch  the players , once we go past that 25 minute mark of not scoring that small amount of belief disappears and then that's it, we might as well all go home.

I'm really disappointed with Lampard tbh. I thought he would at least play the new players in a semi attacking system. 

He has fallen into same trap as Potter with this bloated squad size, only he has about 10th of the coaching ability.

Short sighted team selections to keep as many in this  bloated squad happy as possible. As a result we have no chemistry, and very large group of unhappy, unmotivated players. 

He needs to pick 25 players including the january purchases, and have the rest train separately. 

Then choose a formation and 11, and just stick with it for the 6 games in the hope it improves. 

Potter shouldve done this from the 1st February, but he started f**king Ziyech against spurs who clearly isnt going to be here. 

I think a lot of the issues will be resolved with a reduction on numbers. Pochettino has a big job, but if he can liase with Lampard then at least we can get a bit of head start going into the summer. 

It's looking like a 14th/15th placed finish, worse season I've witness in 37 years. Too young to remember the relegation, so this one is out clear for for me. 30 goals in 32 games.

Just can't believe how bad Lamps record is. When many were wetting themselves about his return as interim, I knew it would be a bad move but didn't envisage just how bad things would be. As someone said last night, he has Hollinsed it - that's how bad he has been. For younger supporters, John Hollins was a fans favourite (despite spells at Arsenal & QPR), but he tarnished all that with how he took over John Neals great side and got us relegated. With a few less wins earlier in the season, I think Lamps would be doing exactly the same and even now, I have to keep getting out the calculator to see if relegation is still mathematically possible.

Think Lamps should follow the likes of Keane and Neville and realise there are far easier ways to carry on earning a living in football. 

In all fairness it is really hard to criticize Frank. We have been like this the entire season. We huff and puff and do nice moves, control the ball more than the opponent and can't score. We so impotent up front I don't think a handful of Viagra's would do anything....

We had absolutely no chances against Brentford... at home. None. 

This is Tuchel's team without Tuchel's managerial abilities. Potter and Frank are not close to being the same level. Even Tuchel couldn't really get anything out of this side. 

We need a massive reset.

3 minutes ago, evissy said:

In all fairness it is really hard to criticize Frank. We have been like this the entire season. We huff and puff and do nice moves, control the ball more than the opponent and can't score. We so impotent up front I don't think a handful of Viagra's would do anything....

We had absolutely no chances against Brentford... at home. None. 

This is Tuchel's team without Tuchel's managerial abilities. Potter and Frank are not close to being the same level. Even Tuchel couldn't really get anything out of this side. 

We need a massive reset.

Issue is he had options he could have started; that front 5 was totally unnecessary, between them they have scored 7 goals & created 18 big chances all season long. It was pointless playing Gallagher & Kante as wingers/inside forward, and Frank should have been questioned on his game plan. It is no surprise we started creating chances once he brought on Aubameyang & Murdyk at half time.

I genuinely reckon we'll be 3 points above relegation when the season ends. We'll go into the last gameweek with a 4-6 point gap so we'll be safe but Tuchel's PPG ratio early on this season have genuinely saved our arses.

If Everton pulls off the upset tonight against Newcastle and the results go against us at the weekend and for the rest of the season we may actually be at risk going into the last game of the season though.

In the last 5 games, literally the worst team in the league.

Just like Potter, he got completely lost try to solve the scoring problem, instead of trying to do better at simple things, coming up with strange team selection which ultimately made the team look rubbish. I mean how many defenders were on the field, Kante and Gallagher as attacker, Sterling at a fake 9. The only chance we could score would be from a set piece. This maybe the setup we will play against Arsenal, two Manchester teams and Newcastle, but fark even it works the best could you hope for is a bore 1:0, and we aren't keeping any cleansheets right now.

 

54 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Issue is he had options he could have started; that front 5 was totally unnecessary, between them they have scored 7 goals & created 18 big chances all season long. It was pointless playing Gallagher & Kante as wingers/inside forward, and Frank should have been questioned on his game plan. It is no surprise we started creating chances once he brought on Aubameyang & Murdyk at half time.

It was the exact gameplan that he used against madrid (if people say that gameplan vs madrid was bad  then i can't say anything). Lampard has history to use gameplan that work in the previous game for the next game.

I don't know why but he does this a lot.

There is only one man who can save us from being drawn into a relegation battle.

A man who has done it countless times.

A man who's job it is to come in late in the season, fight against relegation, then sail off into the wind.

And I am nailing my colours to the mast for this man to come in for the remaining 6 games.

Thank God for the 39 points Tuchel and Potter managed to get us, because i cannot see where the next point is coming from.

Our best ever player but an absolutely woeful manager. We won’t pick up another point all season.