5 hours ago, CFC_SLO said:

OFFTOPIC RANT: Liverpool finally pulled off the Isak deal for £130M and broke the English transfer record, unreal. They keep trolling us about “spending a billion,” but they’ve just splashed €500M this summer alone. Of course for them the excuse “we also sold players” is valid, while Chelsea apparently can’t use that line… :)

And then there’s the Jackson saga, classic Chelsea soap opera. If we really had an offer of €15M + option to buy (and apparently Bayern were even open to an obligation), I’d have taken that in a heartbeat. I also read we contacted Sunderland and are even thinking about recalling Guiu from loan. Total chaos again, no logic at this club.

And let’s not forget Jackson actually wanted to stay and fight for his place – the club were the ones constantly pushing him out. No wonder he’s pissed off. After the international break, coming back to the Bridge is gonna be super toxic. Honestly I don’t see Jackson taking it like a man, keeping his head up and fighting like Chalobah is doing right now. Maybe he surprises us though (doubt).

For Liverpool of course they had the added excuse with the unfortunate death of Jota and his brother, which no doubt we will hear about constantly from Carragher and the other Liverpool twats. I was watching the Liverpool game yesterday on Sky and once again it was sooooooo evident that the commentators were biased toward Liverpool…what is it with that club and the sh*t they get away with within the media? It seems that the Hillsborough disaster together with Heysel gives them carte Blanche the given right to get sympathy at every turn from every pundit together with every defence for their actions while everything they do gets ignored…like spending 500mill won’t raise an eyebrow and if they don’t win the league for the next few years the money they’ve spent will be ignored.

36 minutes ago, markpitts said:

“Nicolas Jackson deal was never off or collapsed, even after formal Bayern letter to return to London. Chelsea have depth now with Marc Guiu back to the club and can re-negotiate terms with Bayern, open to solutions.”

Our lot are amateurs

Just now, bisright1 said:

Of course you do. Its the Broja principal.

The player who has never scored a meaningful goal in his career is better than the devil you know.

2 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Of course you do. Its the Broja principal.

The player who has never scored a meaningful goal in his career is better than the devil you know.

Things I see Guiu do better than Jackson:

Higher work rate.

Miles better aerially.

Braver in challenges.

Better natural movement and anticipation as a striker.

Of couse the last one is probably not surprising given his football education as a youngster.

4 minutes ago, just said:

Things I see Guiu do better than Jackson:

Higher work rate.

Miles better aerially.

Braver in challenges.

Better natural movement and anticipation as a striker.

Of couse the last one is probably not surprising given his football education as a youngster.

Plus much more level headed with a professionals temperament and an understanding of the offside rule.

Just now, just said:

Things I see Guiu do better than Jackson:

Higher work rate.

Miles better aerially.

Braver in challenges.

Better natural movement and anticipation as a striker.

Of couse the last one is probably not surprising given his football education as a youngster.

1 minute ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Plus much more level headed with a professionals temperament and an understanding of the offside rule.

6 minutes ago, just said:

Things I see Guiu do better than Jackson:

Higher work rate.

Miles better aerially.

Braver in challenges.

Better natural movement and anticipation as a striker.

Of couse the last one is probably not surprising given his football education as a youngster.

I fully believe that could be the case in time.

But we're comparing a player who Bayern were going to give us 15m to have for one year with someone who can't get minutes at Sunderland.

We had exactly the same comments 12 months ago about Broja.

It's based on performances against second rate opposition.

And the whole thing is moot. Maresca is just not going to start Guiu against Benfica or Bayern or anyone in the PL this side of Christmas.

2 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Plus much more level headed with a professionals temperament and an understanding of the offside rule.

Yes, you can add those to the list. And also Guiu usually has a better first touch.

If Jackson is gone by the end of the day then I would prefer if we just kept Guiu and not sign anyone.

We're just going to spend another 40m+ on another Guiu so what's the point. Gone are the days we'd go out and get an experienced short term option.

1 minute ago, bisright1 said:

I fully believe that could be the case in time.

But we're comparing a player who Bayern were going to give us 15m to have for one year with someone who can't get minutes at Sunderland.

We had exactly the same comments 12 months ago about Broja.

It's based on performances against second rate opposition.

And the whole thing is moot. Maresca is just not going to start Guiu against Benfica or Bayern or anyone in the PL this side of Christmas.

And you think Jackson is going to be picked regularly before Kane at Bayern?

I take your point about Broja, but I believe many of us were thinking about the player he was starting to look like before that awful injury. I know I was.

Crazy saga this one. Looks like he will end up at Bayern after all.

Looks like a pretty underwhelming end to the window.

Replaced Nkunku with Beunonatte, and Jackson with Guiu.

Was really hoping for Xavi Simons, we kost out on that, then yhe hope was Fermin Lopez, but that now looks dead and buried.

Have we done enough this window?

7 minutes ago, just said:

And you think Jackson is going to be picked regularly before Kane at Bayern?

I take your point about Broja, but I believe many of us were thinking about the player he was starting to look like before that awful injury. I know I was.

If Kane gets injured, Jackson will start

I don't see Guiu starting even if Pedro gets injured. Which is my concern with this decision to recall him

2 minutes ago, big blue said:

Crazy saga this one. Looks like he will end up at Bayern after all.

Looks like a pretty underwhelming end to the window.

Replaced Nkunku with Beunonatte, and Jackson with Guiu.

Was really hoping for Xavi Simons, we kost out on that, then yhe hope was Fermin Lopez, but that now looks dead and buried.

Have we done enough this window?

But the point is, he'll end up on Bayern on exactly the same deal as he was originally on, because Guiu has come back. WE just look so amateurish yet again.

16 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

If Kane gets injured, Jackson will start

I don't see Guiu starting even if Pedro gets injured. Which is my concern with this decision to recall him

But Jackson also has competition as Kane's back up from the hugely experienced Serge Gnabry and their highly rated Swedish youngster Jonah Kusi Asare. No guarantee he would be getting in ahead of those two.

Just now, just said:

But Jackson also has competition as Kane's back up from the hugely experienced Serge Gnabry and their highly rated Swedish youngster Jonah Kusi Asare. No guarantee he would be getting in ahead of those two.

Basically, Bayern aren't desperate for a back up .

23 minutes ago, big blue said:

Crazy saga this one. Looks like he will end up at Bayern after all.

Looks like a pretty underwhelming end to the window.

Replaced Nkunku with Beunonatte, and Jackson with Guiu.

Was really hoping for Xavi Simons, we kost out on that, then yhe hope was Fermin Lopez, but that now looks dead and buried.

Have we done enough this window?

No!

2 minutes ago, just said:

But Jackson also has competition as Kane's back up from the hugely experienced Serge Gnabry and their highly rated Swedish youngster Jonah Kusi Asare. No guarantee he would be getting in ahead of those two.

Just now, The Rising Sun said:

Basically, Bayern aren't desperate for a back up .

They are spending 15m on a player for one season. In nerdy financial talk that's a 75mE transfer.

It's not the same as Guiu.

Incidentally my preferred outcome was we sign a striker.

My second choice was we sign no one and recall no one.

This is my least favourite option as I want to see Guiu do something this season and I don't see him getting any opportunity to do that here.

Edited September 1, 2025Sep 1 by bisright1

33 minutes ago, just said:

And you think Jackson is going to be picked regularly before Kane at Bayern?

I take your point about Broja, but I believe many of us were thinking about the player he was starting to look like before that awful injury. I know I was.

Play over Kane, nope. Play next to Kane, now that is an interesting idea. Jackson is a fantastic support st

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

Basically, Bayern aren't desperate for a back up .

Possible, if Ganbry is fit and they intend to bring Kusi Asare through slowly.

1 minute ago, bisright1 said:

They are spending 15m on a player for one season. In nerdy financial talk that's a 75mE transfer.

It's not the same as Guiu.

It's £12.9 million without an option to buy included. But we are wavering off the point here. My point is Guiu, IMO, would be the better back up choice for us ahead of Jackson, for the reasons I have listed.

1 hour ago, markpitts said:

“Nicolas Jackson deal was never off or collapsed, even after formal Bayern letter to return to London. Chelsea have depth now with Marc Guiu back to the club and can re-negotiate terms with Bayern, open to solutions.”

Our lot are amateurs

Are they ?

I am not so sure it’s as mad as it all seems.

Had this happened after the window had shut then the HC would just have to get on with it. But it didn’t and whilst time was running out it hadn’t.

The question I asked someone yesterday is how many strikers would you realistically need / have in the system we play ? I can’t see that you would have 3 so going with 2 would probably be how if not all most would want.

Re Jackson I suspect , and it’s no more than that, an offer to buy outright came in . Indeed all the chatter on Sky yesterday was that BM could sign Jackson but it would have to be a permanent deal. So if that’s so and indeed as we know Delap will be out for a couple of months then stepping back gave the club time to think through its options.

Let’s see how this all plays out because won’t truly be able to rate u till the window shuts.

1 hour ago, CFCCAN said:

For Liverpool of course they had the added excuse with the unfortunate death of Jota and his brother, which no doubt we will hear about constantly from Carragher and the other Liverpool twats. I was watching the Liverpool game yesterday on Sky and once again it was sooooooo evident that the commentators were biased toward Liverpool…what is it with that club and the sh*t they get away with within the media? It seems that the Hillsborough disaster together with Heysel gives them carte Blanche the given right to get sympathy at every turn from every pundit together with every defence for their actions while everything they do gets ignored…like spending 500mill won’t raise an eyebrow and if they don’t win the league for the next few years the money they’ve spent will be ignored.

??? They don't like to talk about that one. Or if they do, they blame Chelsea fans and the Belgians.

I'm beginning to think we've delayed the Jackson Deal in hope we can get a permanent transfer. The options off the bench looked weak at the weekend and I think Enzo really wants Fermin, but we only have a measly €40m to spend which Barca are going to outright refuse. If we can get some extra cash from Jackson's sale, we can go back with a tempting offer for Fermin.

Enzo doesn't seem to be trusting of Gittens yet and god knows about Garnacho, Buonanotte is just an emergency back up that I doubt will get many minutes. We really need an additional attacker.

The question is how much have we spent on players that have never played for us and will probably never make a profit on? maybe then we'd not be in UEFAs bad books and have some proper money to upgrade. Are we going to be in the same predicament next season too?

I'm surprised Guiu is so highly rated here. I must have been watching someone else. As far as I can remember he only did well in the Conference league against the kind of opposition that would struggle to compete even in the Championship. There's a reason he went to Sunderland and they weren't too bothered about sending him back, by the way.

He may have all the basics and a nice attitude but you can't seriously think at this point of his development he's good enough to be a back up to Pedro and given the amount of competitions we're involved in he'll have to be involved a lot.

4 hours ago, OneTommyLangley said:

American overconfidence? check.

Okay? Does it suck that bad wherever you’re at that you must post 100x about Americans? Your friend UB has you holding his hand now? Cute lmaooo

32 minutes ago, abramovich said:

I'm surprised Guiu is so highly rated here. I must have been watching someone else. As far as I can remember he only did well in the Conference league against the kind of opposition that would struggle to compete even in the Championship. There's a reason he went to Sunderland and they weren't too bothered about sending him back, by the way.

He may have all the basics and a nice attitude but you can't seriously think at this point of his development he's good enough to be a back up to Pedro and given the amount of competitions we're involved in he'll have to be involved a lot.

It's simply a case of anyone but Jackson unfortunately.

Maresca doesn't rate him hence his loan in the first place, I really don't see him playing any meaningful games.

All of a sudden it feels like a promising transfer window has turned into a very average window considering which players were available.

1 hour ago, abramovich said:

I'm surprised Guiu is so highly rated here. I must have been watching someone else. As far as I can remember he only did well in the Conference league against the kind of opposition that would struggle to compete even in the Championship. There's a reason he went to Sunderland and they weren't too bothered about sending him back, by the way.

He may have all the basics and a nice attitude but you can't seriously think at this point of his development he's good enough to be a back up to Pedro and given the amount of competitions we're involved in he'll have to be involved a lot.

Is he better at finishing than Jackson? Yes!

Is he better at heading than Jackson? Yes!

Did he have a better goals per minute ratio than Jackson? Yes!

Does he have a better footballing brain than Jackson? Yes!

Is he better at 'putting it about' than Jackson? Yes!

Does he have less red cards than Jackson and likely to be more reliable to keep calm and not do something stupid? Yes!

Is he also good at the 1 thing Jackson is good at (running around like a bull in a china shop)? Yes!

In every metric of the game, he is individually as good as, or better than Jackson.

I accept that Guiu has not had as much oppertunity to prove himself, but the flip side is that Jackson has proved himself over and over again as being hopeless. So even if Jackson has done more at senior level - he has also consistently proven himself to not be good enough.

I am confident that Jackass leaves. No point in Guiu coming back if Jackson also stays. I continue to have faith that he will leave, because simply, he is not good enough for this club.... he is rubbish.

JACKSON BE GONE.......

Edited September 1, 2025Sep 1 by nonotnowjim