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Chelsea v Forest (PL) Sat 2nd Sep 2023 15:00 GMT

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3 minutes ago, Blue72 said:

In buying up all the supposedly best young talent how come we miss Evan Ferguson playing in the position we are at our weakest. We really are run by a bunch of wasters who are playing with our club like its an American Football team.  

Maybe they're not the best young talent after all, they're just young and our gurus have no idea what they'll turn out to be cos our people can't coach for sh*t

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

They haven't bought well though. Buying well would be surrounding young players with experienced players that know what it takes to compete at the top. They f**ked up massively, don't understand the sport they are involved in and genuninely thought we could compete at this level with players with less than 100 games to their name. We just spent £40m+5m in add ons on a player that has played 44 career games, most of them being from the bench. I'm fed up with so many people pretending or thinking this is completely normal, it's not. If it was, then everybody else would be doing it. You can't fill a team up with a bunch of kids and win games in the Premier League, it's impossible.

Not really sure who we could have bought that is experienced. We sold a bunch of the players we did have because they were either not good enough or past their prime. People were ecstatic that we sold a bunch of deadwood, so I'm not really sure who the current board could have signed for experience. Experience doesn't equal quality. Nobody was moaning about Enzo or Caicedo despite them both being in their early 20s. Nobody moaned about Colwill. Gallagher has started the season well. Chilwell has generally been quality. The board signed Nkunku. Jackson hasn't made a great impact yet, but he's shown glimpses. James is injured so Gusto is the back up. Silva is experienced. As is Sterling. I'm honestly not sure where the experience should really be, apart from maybe the ST position, which hasn't been easy to find. Even Vlahovic is young. 

Just now, Bob stark said:

Have you seen any team sign a 28 year old plan B player for 50 m? 

What has that got to do with anything anyway. I haven't seen any other team spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds on kids that have no concept of what it takes to compete at an elite level week after week after week.

There is a point where the football matters rather than the dollars. Keep playing this football, this ridiculous formation, and continue to hot be able to score, this is heading in one direction.

This plan B striker by the way has already hit the ground running in Saudi.

Nigh on a billion spent and still haven't bought a striker.

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

What has that got to do with anything anyway. I haven't seen any other team spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds on kids that have no concept of what it takes to compete at an elite level week after week after week.

There is a point where the football matters rather than the dollars. Keep playing this football, this ridiculous formation, and continue to hot be able to score, this is heading in one direction.

This plan B striker by the way has already hit the ground running in Saudi.

Nigh on a billion spent and still haven't bought a striker.

You saw many team signing expensive kids. This is normal stuff. Most of the time you can recoup your investment. Not a big deal. 

You don't see team signing 28 year old backup for 50m because it is financial suicide. Soon you will face more than just ffp. 

1 minute ago, Bob stark said:

You saw many team signing expensive kids. This is normal stuff. Most of the time you can recoup your investment. Not a big deal. 

You don't see team signing 28 year old backup for 50m because it is financial suicide. Soon you will face more than just ffp. 

Financial suicide. That's a hoot. Let's see how this pans out. This model is built on a foundation of European football, not winning 1 game in your first four. 

So disappointing to go from preseason when we were scoring for fun and playing confident, attacking football, to that turgid nonsense we saw today. What is Pochettino playing at? Three at the back against West Ham and Forest with Chilwell on the wing! Enough already. 

It’s fine, totally fine. We’ve signed the best young talent from around the world, we’re already doing better than last years 12th and anyone who says anything negative is just moaning and wasn’t there in the 1981/2 season.

And I’m sure are goals XO thing is way better than City’s!!!

All hail Boehly and Poch! Trust the plan!

It was crap but let’s not all fall on our swords over the season just yet…it’s been four PL games…what’s annoying is we no longer have a knack of getting results we deserve let alone better than we deserve like we did in the past. 
 

yes chelsea shouldn’t be losing at home to Forest but surprised people think we’d be finished article with this squad after five minutes as well. 

1 minute ago, The Brit said:

It was crap but let’s not all fall on our swords over the season just yet…it’s been four PL games…what’s annoying is we no longer have a knack of getting results we deserve let alone better than we deserve like we did in the past. 
 

yes chelsea shouldn’t be losing at home to Forest but surprised people think we’d be finished article with this squad after five minutes as well. 

All true, but it makes it hard to sympathize with a manager who expects to solve our goal scoring problem by fielding more defenders. 

10 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The absolute freedom Forest had on that right side knowing there is no attacking threat from our left side...

 

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People underestimating/forgetting impact of Nkunku’s injury. Do think poch needs to abandon the Chilwell left wing with Colwill as left back experiment. It worked on the whole against Liverpool but not since then. Need a proper attacking player there with Chilwell at left back, Colwill as a cb.

Next game its gots to be

                           Sanchez

       Gusto   Silva    Colwill    Matassen

                     Caicedo   Lavia

                              Enzo

       Sterling                        Mudryk 

                          Jackson

 

Slate away compadres 😀

Wouldnt it be a great idea to play players in their actual positions (chilwell). Wingback systems seem to be the best way to kill a good player in their tracks. Go to a back 4 and disasi moves to bench warmer.

What a pathetic performance. Still seems like we payed 90 mill too much for Caicedo. And please explain to me why Mudryk is given minutes on the pitch.

4 hours ago, Dr. Socrates said:

Don’t know what I just witnessed. That was dreadful on every level. All that money spent and we have one raw striker in the squad. A left back playing as left winger. A midfield that has no goals in it. And a 39 year old centre back that the manager is too scared to drop so sets up the team to protect his lack of pace. This is just nonsense from Poch. He has badly misjudged these opening games and this is the easy part of the season. We need to move to a more progressive style of play, especially against teams like Nottingham Forest. We can’t carry on like this. Nkunku is out for a long time and Poch’s solution to play three at the back with Chilwell as left winger, has been a disaster. 

My thoughts exactly. Pochettino's team selection is stupid. I wanted to use another word but I just cannot. Stupid is the right one. 

Disasi, Silva, Colwill, Enzo, Caicedo and Gallagher. 6 starters that are not natural goal scorers. Plus the two full backs. Against NF at home. 

I thought this was just a one time thing against Liverpool because it was the first game of the season and we needed a result to build some confidence. But I see this horrific formation every week and I don't know what to make of it. 

Pochettino must act fast and revert to four at the back, drop Silva, use the full backs in their natural position and bring natural wingers in the starting lineup. 

Also seeing a lot of blame on us playing "just kids".

Silva, Sterling, Sanchez, Chilwell and Disasi are not 21 year olds with little top flight play time. There SHOULD be plenty of leadership there.

2 hours ago, The Brit said:

People underestimating/forgetting impact of Nkunku’s injury. Do think poch needs to abandon the Chilwell left wing with Colwill as left back experiment. It worked on the whole against Liverpool but not since then. Need a proper attacking player there with Chilwell at left back, Colwill as a cb.

It worked against Liverpool because we had both Chilwell and Reece working in tandem down the flanks. 

In pre-season we played a different system with 4 at the back and were generally much better to watch. It also didn't seem to matter which CB pair we played in pre-season too as the system worked OK for all the combinations. Odd that we seemed to abandon it as soon as the season started.

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