5 minutes ago, SimonH said:

When Enzo plays, we lose. It’s what happens. 

I think he should have left him out and gone with the exact winning first 11 against Everton 

1 minute ago, abister1 said:

Pep is a better manager. You don't expect them to both have same impact from the bench in game. Gusto was forced off and also city didn't win because they were brilliant. If Petrovic played the ball to the left where Mudryk was calling that chance never develops. 

But let's forget all that, I know I have backed Jackson and continue will do so because I think he is young and still developing, but he could have score or had a hand in at least 2 goals in first half. 

Poch got it right. His strength is not in game changes but imagine Harry Kane rather than Jackson, do you not think game is won in first half and a couple more insurance goals in 2nd before any of Pep's changes? 

Saying he isnt good at in game changes or Pep is the better manager is an excuse IMO. If he isnt good at that then maybe we should start considering whether he is the right man for the job. Because there are going to be a hundred more games over the next few years where in game changes will be important.

Nothing more Poch could do.  Better striker who can take chances and we would have won the League Cup and be in the FA Cup final…..

4 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

No, if Palmer doesn't score, we lose, or draw. Putting the blame on Enzo is just using him as a scapegoat. Who was the player that messed up 3 easy chances? That is where the blame lies.

Nope. Our Argentine manager forces him into the side every time with countryman allegiance, due to this we end up with Conor on the f**king wing and our preferred starting 11 turns to sh*t 

Players and that Argy mug will be on the beach now for sure. Instead of a cup final and a big push in the league I guarantee we will see more of the same extremely disappointing and frustrating football culminating in nothing positive at all. 

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by General

We don't have goalscorers in this team, except Palmer. let alone a proper striker. In previous teams we had Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Lampard besides Drogba or Costa who had good goalscoring records and contributed regularly. Even from very good scoring positions we manage to make such mess that is not even embarrassing anymore. 

2 minutes ago, abister1 said:

I think he should have left him out and gone with the exact winning first 11 against Everton 

Agreed. 

1 minute ago, abramovich said:

Well, there goes our season.

Yup. Coefficient gone now Europa/trophy too. 
 

Best we can hope for his finish in a Conference League place but the fine we will receive for participating (breaking UEFA guidelines) is arguably greater than even qualifying.

4 minutes ago, ross91690 said:

Thiago looks crushed. 

Played his heart out today and this was his last chance of silverware before he leaves us...unless he hangs around as a coach.

How can you have the audacity to demand to take a penalty when this is how you showcase your execution in front of goal. Jackson is a f**king embarrassment. 

Certainly several games this season I have questioned Poch. But in my opinion today was not one of them. We were let down by poor finishing, lack of cover in key positions through injuries, and some players in the squad who clearly aren't good enough.

A great cup run comes to an end ... well done Chels. Gave the best team in the country a lot to think about today, and in the end it was that extra little bit of quality and experience that made the difference.

Win or lose, up the Blues :-) 

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yup. Coefficient gone now Europa/trophy too. 
 

Best we can hope for his finish in a Conference League place but the fine we will receive for participating (breaking UEFA guidelines) is arguably greater than even qualifying.

Yes. We might be better off missing out on a Euro spot for next season. Need to sort out the fitness of players before we can cope with the extra matches.

I'm proud of our team tonight, if we had a striker it would have been a great win.

I'm not going to moan about Jacko or Poch or anything else.

Come on you BLUES !

Goals win games, we don’t score enough from our chances we create

In game tactics change matches, we aren’t pro active enough

We haven’t played badly,again we’ve matched the best but that isn’t enough at this level.You have to take your chances 

 Turning into winners again is going to be a hard slog. 

Lol, we win 6-0 and the manager changes the team and puts a central midfielder at 10. What the f**k did we expect...

10 minutes ago, ross91690 said:

Thiago looks crushed. 

No doubt he is. A shot at an Fa cup winners medal snatched away by his incompetent team mates and manager.

A half fit Enzo on pain killers, surprise surprise he does not play well.

3 minutes ago, SimonH said:

Nope. Our Argentine manager forces him into the side every time with countryman allegiance, due to this we end up with Conor on the f**king wing and our preferred starting 11 turns to sh*t 

Our preferred starting 11 turns to sh*t? I don't think you have noticed, but that starting 11 with Gallagher in midfield has been sh*t pretty much all season. The Everton game is the only game all season where it worked without any flaws.

If Jackson takes his chances today, you wouldn't be complaining about the midfield.

10 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Pep is a better manager. You don't expect them to both have same impact from the bench in game. Gusto was forced off and also city didn't win because they were brilliant. If Petrovic played the ball to the left where Mudryk was calling that chance never develops. 

But let's forget all that, I know I have backed Jackson and continue will do so because I think he is young and still developing, but he could have score or had a hand in at least 2 goals in first half. 

Poch got it right. His strength is not in game changes but imagine Harry Kane rather than Jackson, do you not think game is won in first half and a couple more insurance goals in 2nd before any of Pep's changes? 

Forget Harry Kane, if we had Paul Mullins out there instead of the hopeless Jackson we win this game.

17 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Can someone handle the MOTM thread please? I’m at the pub and my phone is about to die.

Could just skip it TBH.

5 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Yes. We might be better off missing out on a Euro spot for next season. Need to sort out the fitness of players before we can cope with the extra matches.

One of Winstanley or Stewart need to go. Genuinely. 
 

We are financially f**ked AGAIN!

very rearly do this but these need to be here

 

 

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by mojo

1 minute ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Saying he isnt good at in game changes or Pep is the better manager is an excuse IMO. If he isnt good at that then maybe we should start considering whether he is the right man for the job. Because there are going to be a hundred more games over the next few years where in game changes will be important.

The point is that no one is perfect, not even Pep whose achilles heels was over complicating or over thinking things and making a muddle of it all at the final stages of cup competitions. 

Over the last two seasons he seems to have gradually come out of that weakness. 

In all the big games we have played this season, we have never felt like oh they absolutely battered us. More like we should have won or won more if we didn't get let down by the players. 

If Poch was 100% ever aspect, he wouldn't be our manager. I backed him before he was appointed, have been frustrated by his game management and said once maybe he shouldn't be our manager if he can't manage games properly but when I shorn all emotions and rationally analyse things, he's done well with all he's had to deal with especially with a team that most of them are first time in the EPL and have not even come from teams outside the league that have been known as serial or sure winners. 

There's a reason why managers like Mourinho and Conte want experienced players. Clue.... They won't do a Jackson or Disasi. 

Pep and even Klopp can manage kids but they still mix it up with experienced heads. The owners hamstrung us in that way. At least short term. Long term, it will work but they ignored short term which a club like Chelsea also need to pay attention to. 

1 minute ago, mojo said:

very rearly do that but it needs to be here

 

 

I think laughing at this is all I can do ... 

Our boy has set himself some new standards today :-) 

This was not directly on Poch.

This was mostly on Jackson for a hatful of horrendous misses, and a corrupt ref/VAR who somehow thinks it is within the laws of the game for Grealish to play volleyball when defending a free kick.  We were cheated by a fraud of a ref/VAR official, and cheated by a fraud of a striker.

My complaint is, why the f**k does Poch keep playing Jackson, who is clearly, oh so bloody clearly, so rubbish.