9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

If we want to also go by Leicester under Maresca, it would in fact be Enzo as the holding midfielder and not Caicedo. Enzo would do Winks' role and Caicedo's, Ndidi.

 

 

 

Its interesting isn't it because potentially Lavia and arguably Santos may be more suited to that than Enzo

If Maresca is coming with 8 backing staff we need to applaud the club for backing the chap.

One of the staff is meant to be a set piece specialist. 

On 28/05/2024 at 17:52, WhiteWall said:

Each to their own. I am too old now to be arsed watching turgid, boring, sh*t football.

Winning is important, of course it is, but other than winning the final game of a successful boring campaign none of the others are memorable. I still want to be entertained. You say you'd be happy with 38 1-0s but if you were going to the Bridge every home game, paying over £100 a trip to watch 19 systemic boring, drab 1-0 wins it would get old quick. Surely you would crave some level of creativity, some style, some entertainment. As much as we had some train wrecks last season, there were highlights. Frustrating as they were because we didn't win any of them, but Liverpool, Arsenal and man City matches were some of the best that we played all season and yet all three ended up in draws.

You and me both.

Of course I'm not opposed to us grinding out 1-0 wins or getting the odd 0-0 draw when called for. But no way do I want to watch us boring our way to any trophies. I'm all for, "if you're going to win, win in style" philosophy. Honestly don't want us winning playing boring, turgid style football. We have the players to entertain, so let's play (and win) the right way FFS!

  

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

We have tried pushing Enzo high, not a good idea. 

You can push Caicedo up high and enzo low which mean one of Nkunku/Palmer has to play as winger 

When we pushed Enzo high it was without an inverted full back so we basically had a 4-1-5 formation with Caicedo isolated.

With full back inverted Enzo pushes forward and has the ability to unlock a defence with his passing.

7 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

If Maresca is coming with 8 backing staff we need to applaud the club for backing the chap.

One of the staff is meant to be a set piece specialist. 

I think the set piece guy is the dude from Brentford?

Petrovic

Fofana Badiashile Colwill

James Enzo

Caicedo Nkunku

Palmer                 Sterling

Jackson

1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said:

I think the set piece guy is the dude from Brentford?

Bernardo Cueva, he is already our coach officially. Brentford were 2nd best at shots created from set pieces in the league.

On 29/05/2024 at 14:08, Sexyfootball said:

Out of the frying pan, and into the fire ... and it's deja vu time for Maresca, all over again LOL

https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/28/enzo-maresca-sacking-parma-explained-ahead-chelsea-move-20923953/ 

In his own words, Enzo Maresca said: ‘Managing in Italian football is difficult. But I am sure of one thing, I will be back as a manager one day. My family and I loved Parma. My daughter Maia was even born there. I will carry it forever in my heart.

‘I regard my experience as Parma manager as a positive one. By nature, I am a positive person and I take the good out of all my experiences. But I have one regret. I was only starting my managerial adventure when it was ended.

‘We were on the right track, the problem was that we had to try and construct a new team and that takes time. We needed to have the patience and strength to believe in something and over time I am certain we would have succeeded.

‘We were at 17 points after 13 matches – three points from eighth place and with a completely new team. But listen in football, we all make mistakes and so did I. Parma gave me a three-year contract. And when you accept a multi-year contract it’s because there’s a project idea behind it.

‘In those three years, the target was we had to reach Serie A. Nobody ever told me that we should have gone to Serie A in the first season, especially as there were about 15 players arriving at the club.

‘But I repeat, we were definitely on the right track. I can’t say why I was fired. Perhaps they thought with the squad we had, we should have been top of the table. I agree … But just not right away. With a little more time and some corrections, we would have got there.

‘I had identified three signings in January and I am certain we would have made the play-offs. It’s gone now. I look ahead.’

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Italian football journalist Marco DeMicheli told Sky Sports: ‘It was not because of him. The problem at Parma is that they had been relegated and there had been a change of ownership because an American businessman had bought the team.

‘There were a lot of problems, many players coming and going from abroad. It was such a mess.

 

 

You couldn't make it up LOL

If he can translate what happened at Parma into a good experience it will only suit him now.

The most worrying part for me is when he says that he identified 3 January signings, do it here ans the owners will automatically think his vision is off and the search for a new manager starts again...

41 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

If he can translate what happened at Parma into a good experience it will only suit him now.

The most worrying part for me is when he says that he identified 3 January signings, do it here ans the owners will automatically think his vision is off and the search for a new manager starts again...

One would hope that he learned valuable lessons at Parma about managing upwards and in agreeing clear expectations, goals and milestones etc etc, and that these aspects were up front and central in his negotiations with our D0Fs and Eghbali.

Good luck to him anyway. 

Is it confirmed yet ?

3 hours ago, strider6004 said:

If Maresca is coming with 8 backing staff we need to applaud the club for backing the chap.

One of the staff is meant to be a set piece specialist. 

If only he could bring a medical team with him as well.

3 hours ago, Nibs said:

You and me both.

Of course I'm not opposed to us grinding out 1-0 wins or getting the odd 0-0 draw when called for. But no way do I want to watch us boring our way to any trophies. I'm all for, "if you're going to win, win in style" philosophy. Honestly don't want us winning playing boring, turgid style football. We have the players to entertain, so let's play (and win) the right way FFS!

  

I'm terrified that we may be getting Sarriball MK II.

327 passes in midfield and just the one player in the box, twiddling his thumbs while he waits for the ball.

Question, what if the tedious possession we saw under Sarri and at times Tuchel simply down to Jorginho's limited passing play?

Edited May 30, 20242 yr by Sconnie Blue

14 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Question, what if the tedious possession we saw under Sarri and at times Tuchel simply down to Jorginho's limited passing play?

Sarri was so tedious that we were the second best team after the 98 points and 32 wins Man City...

 

This is a massive massive gamble and the question should be asked "Is it really necessary ?" Arteta was assistant manager with Pep for 3 seasons and it took him further 3 seasons to show results with this arsenal team. Did Enzo learn enough in a single season with Pep and managing in the championship to push for top 4 with us in his first season in the PL. It looks like this ownership has a deep-seated urge to be seen as doing things differently and shaking up the established order even if there is not much to be gained with this approach and a lot to lose. 

29 minutes ago, Nick05 said:

This is a massive massive gamble and the question should be asked "Is it really necessary ?" Arteta was assistant manager with Pep for 3 seasons and it took him further 3 seasons to show results with this arsenal team. Did Enzo learn enough in a single season with Pep and managing in the championship to push for top 4 with us in his first season in the PL. It looks like this ownership has a deep-seated urge to be seen as doing things differently and shaking up the established order even if there is not much to be gained with this approach and a lot to lose. 

We're not really doing things differently though are we?

Bayern and Juve have made similar appointments. Rightly or wrongly this type of possession/control is the way most clubs are going.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

We're not really doing things differently though are we?

Bayern and Juve have made similar appointments. Rightly or wrongly this type of possession/control is the way most clubs are going.

It is interesting what clubs are doing now. Managers like Conte, Tuchel, Jose etc are all available and no big clubs are touching them. They’re going young..

2 hours ago, Argo said:

We're not really doing things differently though are we?

Bayern and Juve have made similar appointments. Rightly or wrongly this type of possession/control is the way most clubs are going.

I wouldn't put Juve and Thiago Motta in the same boat. Achieving 5th with Bologna is a pretty good achievement. 

12 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

I wouldn't put Juve and Thiago Motta in the same boat. Achieving 5th with Bologna is a pretty good achievement. 

Daily Telegraph (Sam Dean) reporting he’s been appointed on a 5 year +1 contract at 9.52pm

25 minutes ago, Gate 13 said:

Daily Telegraph (Sam Dean) reporting he’s been appointed on a 5 year +1 contract at 9.52pm

Sorry, Sam Wallace, not Sam Dean, now running on Sky Sports News.

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

They’re going young

Perhaps it’s more that they’re going ‘cheap’ - ish.

Plus, aren’t Bayern reportedly on about their 10th choice for the role? Maybe the older heads are tired of the hire ‘em fire ‘em culture. They’ve certainly pocketed enough through not quite winning everything every year to check out.

5 hours ago, Argo said:

We're not really doing things differently though are we?

Bayern and Juve have made similar appointments. Rightly or wrongly this type of possession/control is the way most clubs are going.

Man Utd just released/leaked some new rules Radcliffe is implementing.  No players over 25, no galacticos, Wilcox determines the style of football, and the players signed not the manager.  It definitely seems to be a new trend.  Don’t think the fans are too happy with it but these lot don’t give a sh*t what we want.

1 hour ago, Snedger said:

Perhaps it’s more that they’re going ‘cheap’ - ish.

Plus, aren’t Bayern reportedly on about their 10th choice for the role? Maybe the older heads are tired of the hire ‘em fire ‘em culture. They’ve certainly pocketed enough through not quite winning everything every year to check out.

I think it's a bit of trial and error, after all their potential candidates knocked them back, even the guy they fired refuse to get back to the job. For a guy just won like 5 games this season, Kompany will have hell of a time demanding respect from the likes of Muller, Neurer, Kane.

9 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

I think it's a bit of trial and error, after all their potential candidates knocked them back, even the guy they fired refuse to get back to the job. For a guy just won like 5 games this season, Kompany will have hell of a time demanding respect from the likes of Muller, Neurer, Kane.

I think he’ll do really well over there. He speaks fluent German and has the players to play the way he wants. I think Kane will win his first trophy under him. It’s a massive opportunity for him that’s for sure.

13 hours ago, Ajbod said:

Yes we tried pushing Enzo high, but never with the full back inverting, this caused Caicedo to be isolated, and trying to cover the whole midfield. The fact is for all this year Enzo has been below 100%, and there has been no cover when he went forward, so we haven't seen how this can work.

🫣🫣🫣

Enzo played as a 10, gallagher and Caicedo were behind him. 

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by Bob stark