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Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall - Decent Squad Player

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11 minutes ago, Aussie79 said:

Sorry but I thought we got Maresca to coach and have nothing to do with buying and choosing the players. Ffs he bought Harry winks that should of given alarm bells to the board 

We don't know that he did and in fact he and the club have stated that he did not recommend him, but agreed that he could work with him.

Whilst i find pretty much everything Winstanley and Stewart do is to the long term detriment of the footballing side of the club, i think that we all have to credit them with some form of footballing knowledge, as the rest of us all have, misguided or otherwise.

If we sign a possession based manager that likes to play a particular style on a 5 year deal (especially if you are the guys that scouted and recommended him) and you want the "project" to be self sustaining and successful during this period, then it kind of make sense to look towards players that fit that model. None of these players are seeing their deals out after all. If the signed KDH and it helps Maresca challenge it'll work for the team and, of course, the value of KDH himself.

The issue isn't the theory or the targets to fit the model. Its the price we're are paying up from because if it doesn't work out quite right how are we then trading them on.

I find the PR machine behind the club, infiltrating most media outlets very distasteful, so the overhyping sets you up for a fall as well.

Could have had a lot more assists.

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Since Enzo doesn't want to be as deep, KDH is a perfect signing for us. Maresca is cooking.

43 minutes ago, POCH OUT said:

Where will he play? (if he plays)

I thought the manager wanted to play Enzo as the ball player, it looks like we are blowing money just for the fun of it

The weird thing is that we are signing a player with more or less the same strengths and weaknesses as Gallagher and the sameish age - just proven at a lower level than Conor. If he was a different profile at least you’d think there was some kind of tactical reason behind it

1 hour ago, POCH OUT said:

Where will he play? (if he plays)

I thought the manager wanted to play Enzo as the ball player, it looks like we are blowing money just for the fun of it

He'll play where he plays for Leicester. Enzo to play Winks role and Caicedo to play Ndidi's role i imagine. 

50 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

The weird thing is that we are signing a player with more or less the same strengths and weaknesses as Gallagher and the sameish age - just proven at a lower level than Conor. If he was a different profile at least you’d think there was some kind of tactical reason behind it

I think that's the whole point. If two clubs each had a Gallagher that came through their own academy, identical twins, identical football skills it would be profitable for the two clubs to sell/swap the twins. Both clubs would make a profit that could be used for other players. 

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Could have had a lot more assists.

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Since Enzo doesn't want to be as deep, KDH is a perfect signing for us. Maresca is cooking.

He could have had a lot more assists, but whether he will with jackson is another matter. And hey I like jackson but he and stirling do miss a few. However even if Enzo wants to be advanced it's a bad idea. Enzo  will just get in the way if he is advanced all the time.

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Could have had a lot more assists.

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Since Enzo doesn't want to be as deep, KDH is a perfect signing for us. Maresca is cooking.

Looks that he likes moving from the center towards the left most of the time. 

On his assists that could have been higher. 

We will be saying the same thing at the end of our season if Jackson remains the main man for the nr 9 role, unless his efficiency goes up. 😅

 

3 hours ago, ozboy said:

I think that's the whole point. If two clubs each had a Gallagher that came through their own academy, identical twins, identical football skills it would be profitable for the two clubs to sell/swap the twins. Both clubs would make a profit that could be used for other players. 

Yeah, sure. But some argue that this is a good signing because Gallagher doesn’t fit Marescas style, while KDH does. That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

If its pure financially it makes more sense, although we’ve shoved our hand by signing KDH early. If I was a potential buyer for Gallagher I’d be thinking his price just went severely down as we’ll be desperately to sell now

What you'll get with KDH, is an absolute workhorse.  He has an incredible engine, but he is also incredibly "one-footed". He will press well and he will make a big nuisance of himself to the opposition, but he isn't overtly creative as a player. 

Someone further up compared hm to gallagher and I think that's the right comparison, but I'm not convinced he is as good as Gallagher is and although I don't know your squad fantastically well (for fairly obvious reasons, I didn't watch much premier league football last year) I also don't see who he replaces in your team. 

Maresca plays a Central Pivot next to an inverted full back. He then has a couple of #8's who run into the inside channel.  Those 8's will typically underlap the wingers and receive balls on the run.  I'd assume that Caciedo would play the Pivot with Gallagher and Enzo Fernandez being the other two.... I don't think KDH displaces any of those 3 regardless of the setup. 

Which means he's likely to be a squad player at best.... OR, given the volume of games chelsea are likely to have, becomes a solid rotation option. 

He very much could be the next Drinkwater, albeit, I think he has much more determination and ALOT less off field distractions.  He is pretty much the consummate professional. 

 

7 minutes ago, LCFC Fan in Peace said:

What you'll get with KDH, is an absolute workhorse.  He has an incredible engine, but he is also incredibly "one-footed". He will press well and he will make a big nuisance of himself to the opposition, but he isn't overtly creative as a player. 

Someone further up compared hm to gallagher and I think that's the right comparison, but I'm not convinced he is as good as Gallagher is and although I don't know your squad fantastically well (for fairly obvious reasons, I didn't watch much premier league football last year) I also don't see who he replaces in your team. 

Maresca plays a Central Pivot next to an inverted full back. He then has a couple of #8's who run into the inside channel.  Those 8's will typically underlap the wingers and receive balls on the run.  I'd assume that Caciedo would play the Pivot with Gallagher and Enzo Fernandez being the other two.... I don't think KDH displaces any of those 3 regardless of the setup. 

Which means he's likely to be a squad player at best.... OR, given the volume of games chelsea are likely to have, becomes a solid rotation option. 

He very much could be the next Drinkwater, albeit, I think he has much more determination and ALOT less off field distractions.  He is pretty much the consummate professional. 

 

If we have Enzo running channels it could be a long season, makes Cesc look quick at times. 

47 minutes ago, LCFC Fan in Peace said:

What you'll get with KDH, is an absolute workhorse.  He has an incredible engine, but he is also incredibly "one-footed". He will press well and he will make a big nuisance of himself to the opposition, but he isn't overtly creative as a player. 

Someone further up compared hm to gallagher and I think that's the right comparison, but I'm not convinced he is as good as Gallagher is and although I don't know your squad fantastically well (for fairly obvious reasons, I didn't watch much premier league football last year) I also don't see who he replaces in your team. 

Maresca plays a Central Pivot next to an inverted full back. He then has a couple of #8's who run into the inside channel.  Those 8's will typically underlap the wingers and receive balls on the run.  I'd assume that Caciedo would play the Pivot with Gallagher and Enzo Fernandez being the other two.... I don't think KDH displaces any of those 3 regardless of the setup. 

Which means he's likely to be a squad player at best.... OR, given the volume of games chelsea are likely to have, becomes a solid rotation option. 

He very much could be the next Drinkwater, albeit, I think he has much more determination and ALOT less off field distractions.  He is pretty much the consummate professional. 

 

As is Cole Palmer. Not  necessarily a problem. And not that I'm comparing Palmer and KDH in any way, shape or form. From what I saw of KDH he certainly does work his arse off. I think he'll slot in as a rotation option.

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt he will. Weird signing amongst a sea of weird signings from these owners.

With all these average signings including the manager we're not even City-lite. The quality of players a club targets is a direct indicator of the club's ambitions and signing the likes of Kellyman, Guiu and Drewsburry-whatevers paints a bleak picture of our ambitions. 

2 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I reckon under Maresca he will do alright for us, think Jorginho on cocaine........

He needs to be better than that.

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