March 12, 20197 yr I would put all these players ahead of him tbh. Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, De Bruyne, Aguero, Icardi, Sterling. I suppose you could throw Son, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Eriksen, Silva, Modric, Kroos, Bale and Pogba etc in there too depending on what you are looking at specifically from an elite player whether goals or creative outlet. The list ain't complete, you might as well include the likes of Zaha, Vinicius, Depay, Sanchez, Cherychev, Moura, Draxler, Lingard, Mahrez etc[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]
March 12, 20197 yr You can't. Only Messi and Ronaldo are better. Neymar and KDB are on the same level as Eden but he outplayed both of them at the World Cup. Hazard deserved to win POTT. He is being underrated simply because he is playing in the EPL.
March 12, 20197 yr If Sarri is given another year,whether Hazard leaves or not, really isn't going to make much difference, especially if the transfer ban is in place and we are left with more or less the same squad. Same pedestrian, possession based football going absolutely nowhere, except they'll be no-one to produce one bit of brilliance to save our arses. Can only blame the Board for the entire mess we find ourselves in, both with the squad and manager we are now left with.
March 13, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, Brutos said: Well if he goes good luck and he deserves to choose his destiny. He better realise he will also be booed to hell if he underperforms well the recent events with jorginho being booed doesn't put us apart from madrid droes. rember how sh*t was ivanovic at the end and can't recall the same for him, thank god.
March 13, 20197 yr Hazard will flourish at Madrid under Zidane.We will see what he really is made of when his goal contribution will sky rocket. It's the board's fault for not purchasing players of Hazard's level to compliment him.
March 13, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, AlexTommo said: Hazard will flourish at Madrid under Zidane. We will see what he really is made of when his goal contribution will sky rocket. It's the board's fault for not purchasing players of Hazard's level to compliment him. I disagree I think its the worst thing he could do next season as the expectations on him will be incredible, and he simply doesn't score enough goals to keep the mentalist Madrid fans happy, and they will be expecting him to replace Ronaldo. It could well be a disastrous move for him. Edited March 13, 20197 yr by dkw
March 13, 20197 yr Anyone thinks this is a valid point? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/765059/Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-Zinedine-Zidane-PSG-Kylian-Mbappe-ESPN
March 13, 20197 yr 57 minutes ago, ekimozturk said: Anyone thinks this is a valid point? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/765059/Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-Zinedine-Zidane-PSG-Kylian-Mbappe-ESPN Well I wouldn't sign him if I was Zidane. Mbappe would be a better purchase by a mile. Neymar would be a safer purchase. Hazard could really struggle when he isn't the big fish small pond. When the fans are on his back constantly. If he could be picked up for 50-60m + kovacic then I'd imagine why not, low risk. But it's 100m cash. No player exchange. It's a different question. Also if Madrid were going to go in that hard on hazard, why didn't they do it last year?
March 13, 20197 yr Real Madrid will not be able to buy Mbappe or Neymar this summer. PSG have too much money and they wouldn't sell either of those two for any reasonable amount of money. Hazard however they will be able to get for a steal at this point so thats why it makes sense for RM to go after him. Especially now that Zidane is back and we know he rates Hazard very highly, as Hazard rates him very highly.
March 13, 20197 yr 16 hours ago, enigma said: I would put all these players ahead of him tbh. Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, De Bruyne, Aguero, Icardi, Sterling. I suppose you could throw Son, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Eriksen, Silva, Modric, Kroos, Bale and Pogba etc in there too depending on what you are looking at specifically from an elite player whether goals or creative outlet. Jesus, I know it's all a matter of opinion but must of those are not fit to lace Eden's boots! Lewandowski will be 31 this year and looks all of that - hasn't been great for some time. KDB is good but behind Hazard in the pecking order for Belgium and that showed in the WC. Icardi? Over-rated and not well liked. Neymar, too injury prone and lightweight. Sterling is having a great season but still wouldn't have him ahead of Hazard. Wouldn't swap Hazard with anyone on your second list either. Only two players I would you have missed out and they are Mbappe & Sane.
March 13, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, dkw said: I disagree I think its the worst thing he could do next season as the expectations on him will be incredible, and he simply doesn't score enough goals to keep the mentalist Madrid fans happy, and they will be expecting him to replace Ronaldo. It could well be a disastrous move for him. On the other hand I think it is so much easier to score goals in the Spanish league. Bar the games against bigger rivals (Barca and Athletico) other defences are nowhere near as good as he'll face in PL and I think he could have a field day.
March 13, 20197 yr 18 minutes ago, Nibs said: Jesus, I know it's all a matter of opinion but must of those are not fit to lace Eden's boots! Lewandowski will be 31 this year and looks all of that - hasn't been great for some time. KDB is good but behind Hazard in the pecking order for Belgium and that showed in the WC. Icardi? Over-rated and not well liked. Neymar, too injury prone and lightweight. Sterling is having a great season but still wouldn't have him ahead of Hazard. Wouldn't swap Hazard with anyone on your second list either. Only two players I would you have missed out and they are Mbappe & Sane. Neymar might just be ahead of him & Hazard slightly shades the Sterling one. Goals win games & Sterling is averaging 10 goals & 5 assists league goals at only 24. Take away Hazard’s pens & it’s pretty close.
March 13, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, ducavis said: Neymar might just be ahead of him & Hazard slightly shades the Sterling one. Goals win games & Sterling is averaging 10 goals & 5 assists league goals at only 24. Take away Hazard’s pens & it’s pretty close. Sterling plays in a far superior system with far superior players. He's nowhere near Hazard in terms of actual ability.
March 13, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, ekimozturk said: Anyone thinks this is a valid point? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/765059/Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-Zinedine-Zidane-PSG-Kylian-Mbappe-ESPN dude that site sux w/ all of those ads - I will post this video to save people some time
March 13, 20197 yr 43 minutes ago, Nibs said: Jesus, I know it's all a matter of opinion but most of those are not fit to lace Eden's boots! I'm particularly tickled by the suggestion that Firmino is better than Hazard.
March 13, 20197 yr 20 minutes ago, JMaher94 said: Sterling plays in a far superior system with far superior players. He's nowhere near Hazard in terms of actual ability. Agree he is not near Hazard in ability, but his output has always been superior even in his Liverpool day’s.
March 13, 20197 yr 17 hours ago, enigma said: I would put all these players ahead of him tbh. Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, De Bruyne, Aguero, Icardi, Sterling. I suppose you could throw Son, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Eriksen, Silva, Modric, Kroos, Bale and Pogba etc in there too depending on what you are looking at specifically from an elite player whether goals or creative outlet. LOL! Mate, give your head a wobble. Hazard is easily better then them all aside from Messi and Ronaldo. Neymar id rate as his current equal.
March 13, 20197 yr @robdog liked the analysis, Don't' agree although though his reasoning was fair. I think they will be in for Hazard though considerably less than the £100m some have quoted on this forum. I don't think Harry Kane will leave the UK despite what big money offers may come. PSG will likely agree to sell either Neymar or Mbappe though doubt they would sell both. I also think with Modric being 33 another midfielder will be needed.
March 13, 20197 yr 12 minutes ago, Strider6003 said: @robdog liked the analysis, Don't' agree although though his reasoning was fair. I think they will be in for Hazard though considerably less than the £100m some have quoted on this forum. I don't think Harry Kane will leave the UK despite what big money offers may come. PSG will likely agree to sell either Neymar or Mbappe though doubt they would sell both. I also think with Modric being 33 another midfielder will be needed. You are better than me - I turned off the video after Ale Moreno said RM wouldn't go after The Mighty Eden - I was thinking that was a bunch of hogwash & I want The Mighty Eden to remain w/ Chelsea - I just couldn't agree w/ Moreno's argument
March 13, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, ducavis said: Agree he is not near Hazard in ability, but his output has always been superior even in his Liverpool day’s. what output exactly? His running around?
March 13, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, Nibs said: On the other hand I think it is so much easier to score goals in the Spanish league. Bar the games against bigger rivals (Barca and Athletico) other defences are nowhere near as good as he'll face in PL and I think he could have a field day. Thats true, and no doubt he will score more goals there than here but I still think the Madrid fans will have impossibly high expectations of him replacing Ronaldo.
March 13, 20197 yr Ah the old do we overrate or underrate Hazard debate because he is probably leaving. Funny thing is I think we do both. He is an amazing player, pace, skill, can beat multiple players in one burst, score and assist. Has won us many trophies and is one of the Worlds finest right now. Madrid would be foolish not to sign him imo. But he is not the best ever to play for us. For the newer fan how can you put him above Lampard? He is the greatest goal scoring midfielder in premier league history and captained us to CL and Europa league wins. How can you put him above Drogba? That man won us more, was a better leader and one of the greatest forwards ever. Period. How the fan of my age can you put him above Zola? He was simply magical and he never needed pace to do what he did and at 37 he was still one of the best players in the league. Hazard is superb, but he is not our greatest ever. Not by a long shot. We won after Zola, after Drogba, after Lampard. We can win after Hazard too. Whether through transfer or the sands of time they all leave. Dont panic.
March 13, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, Slojo said: I can't believe someone just said Sterling is better than Hazard. Common I did say output; goals scored, ability wise Hazard is superior. He is on 15 league goals this season, and hit 18 last season. Like someone pointed out, he plays for a team with better players.
March 13, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, ducavis said: Common I did say output; goals scored, ability wise Hazard is superior. He is on 15 league goals this season, and hit 18 last season. Like someone pointed out, he plays for a team with better players. Sterling had a lot of pace and good off the ball movement, besides that not much else, he plays in a very good setup. He was atrocious in the World Cup.
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