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AnIrishTrueBlue

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I look at it like this, if he leaves its for a world record fee, to a team overstocked with talent (Such as Morata) which lowers their value = a great deal to be done.

If he stays Id be even heppier though.

 

Like Bale and Suarez, if the offer is that huge and the players want to, let them go!

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AnIrishTrueBlue

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Anyone else feel like Eden has been found out abit? (Temporarily)

Yes Gana and Herrera fouled him and pulled at him etc but he doesn't have the solution to it. For someone like Gana, it would make more sense to pull him into our half away from the defence of out on to the wing but Hazard continues to stay central and accept the abuse he gets. A little worrying. 

 

On the plus side the remaining fixtures this season don't have any Gana / Herrera type players to mark him as well. 

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3 hours ago, AnIrishTrueBlue said:

Anyone else feel like Eden has been found out abit? (Temporarily)

Yes Gana and Herrera fouled him and pulled at him etc but he doesn't have the solution to it. For someone like Gana, it would make more sense to pull him into our half away from the defence of out on to the wing but Hazard continues to stay central and accept the abuse he gets. A little worrying. 

 

On the plus side the remaining fixtures this season don't have any Gana / Herrera type players to mark him as well. 

but you could also say it didn't work out for them in the end as with all the attention they paid to Hazard, it allowed Pedro to get 1v1 with Jagielka and even have time to be able to turn without getting challenged before he got his shot away.

I don't think it's just a matter of Eden getting found out per say, but if were to have an equally(or close to) talented outlet playing at the same time, then man marking Hazard becomes almost pointless because it'll allow someone else more space and time. In that particular instance, Pedro was able to come up with the goods....but if we were able to upgrade on him with someone like(just for arguments sake) Sanchez or Bernardo Silva then our opposition will be left in two minds - will we really benefit from sacrificing a player to follow Hazard around while someone else gets to take advantage of the extra space afforded? Do we man mark the other bloke??? Or...do we man mark them at all?

When you've got a stacked team of attackers like Barcelona or Real Madrid - especially when in super form, man marking Messi out of the game(or attempting to) is pointless when they've got other outlets like Neymar and Suarez. Point i'm trying to make is that if we surround Hazard with other extremely good players, the more pointless it is for our opponents to send in a body to shadow him all game.

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Hazard10

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7 hours ago, AnIrishTrueBlue said:

Anyone else feel like Eden has been found out abit? (Temporarily)

Yes Gana and Herrera fouled him and pulled at him etc but he doesn't have the solution to it. For someone like Gana, it would make more sense to pull him into our half away from the defence of out on to the wing but Hazard continues to stay central and accept the abuse he gets. A little worrying. 

 

On the plus side the remaining fixtures this season don't have any Gana / Herrera type players to mark him as well. 

It's not about being found out. Man marking is essentially a trade off. You limit the influence of 1 player but weaken the overall defensive solidity of your team (as you lose 1 player who's not concerned with anything else but the player he's supposed to mark).

Problem with having Hazard run into our own half is that it plays into the other teams hands. The point of man marking Hazard is to limit his influence. Having him move further away from goal would only help the opposition.

Problem with having Hazard out on the wing is that it's a more isolated position. It's also easier to defend out wide as the sideline acts as another defender. If Hazard is wide then the only place he can go with the ball is to the inside.

Regardless of what Hazard does when the opposition man mark him his influence on the game is always going to be less then what it could be. 

The solution is for the rest of our players to take advantage of the extra space that they are given. 

Only thing Hazard can do is keep making runs and make the moments he's able to get away from his man marker count.

 

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13 hours ago, AnIrishTrueBlue said:

Anyone else feel like Eden has been found out abit? (Temporarily)

Yes Gana and Herrera fouled him and pulled at him etc but he doesn't have the solution to it. For someone like Gana, it would make more sense to pull him into our half away from the defence of out on to the wing but Hazard continues to stay central and accept the abuse he gets. A little worrying. 

 

On the plus side the remaining fixtures this season don't have any Gana / Herrera type players to mark him as well. 

He hasn't been found out. Only Messi in the world football wouldn't struggle being man marked by that.

This is why we need to buy Sanchez in my opinion, we need another player who's gonna cause defences major problems so it takes the heat off Hazard. Imagine leaving Sanchez the freedom to roam!

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didierforever

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13 hours ago, AnIrishTrueBlue said:

Anyone else feel like Eden has been found out abit? (Temporarily)

Yes Gana and Herrera fouled him and pulled at him etc but he doesn't have the solution to it. For someone like Gana, it would make more sense to pull him into our half away from the defence of out on to the wing but Hazard continues to stay central and accept the abuse he gets. A little worrying. 

 

On the plus side the remaining fixtures this season don't have any Gana / Herrera type players to mark him as well. 

No mate, not at all. The opposition is literally using 1 midfielder to man mark our player and leaving gaping holes in the mid (watch the everton game). Hazard still was a handful. It should be the responsibility of other players to use those spaces and force the team to revert to a normal midfield.

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On 02/05/2017 at 15:22, didierforever said:

No mate, not at all. The opposition is literally using 1 midfielder to man mark our player and leaving gaping holes in the mid (watch the everton game). Hazard still was a handful. It should be the responsibility of other players to use those spaces and force the team to revert to a normal midfield.

Yes, Pedro has had a better season because of hazard. But not the other way around.

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2 hours ago, benjsross said:

Yes, Pedro has had a better season because of hazard. But not the other way around.

I disagree, I think Pedro and Hazard are great together, they have been on the same wavelength for most of the season and it's reflected by both of their goal tallies. Pedro is a big game player, he steps up at the right times and can pull something out of nothing, his goals against spurs and Everton prove that. Hazard is most certainly helped by Pedro being in the team because he knows Pedro is another outlet, he's not just relying on Diego to finish chances. Willian is a great dribbler, but Pedro definitely wins us more games with his shooting ability. And of course he's an incredibly likeable player, always plays with a smile on his face. Vote For Pedro.

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15 minutes ago, RMCM said:

I disagree, I think Pedro and Hazard are great together, they have been on the same wavelength for most of the season and it's reflected by both of their goal tallies. Pedro is a big game player, he steps up at the right times and can pull something out of nothing, his goals against spurs and Everton prove that. Hazard is most certainly helped by Pedro being in the team because he knows Pedro is another outlet, he's not just relying on Diego to finish chances. Willian is a great dribbler, but Pedro definitely wins us more games with his shooting ability. And of course he's an incredibly likeable player, always plays with a smile on his face. Vote For Pedro.

My comment wasn't intended as a slur on Pedro by any means, just that teams in big games have focused on marking hazard out of the game which has in turn given Pedro more space to shine. 

The Everton goal for example, if hazard had not been on the pitch then he may not have had that space and time to hit that shot.

If Hazard had the space that Pedro is often offered we would see a much higher goal tally from him in my opinion. 

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It's a rubbish story re: Wijnaldum. None of the top 6 (except Liverpool obviously) would even want to have a player like that in their starting 11.

I think Madrid would want to see how Asensio progresses. He has been playing really well recently and if he continues that way, they may not need Hazard at all.

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See that is the thing with Hazard and probably why he will never get close to Messi/Ronaldo but also why he will stay at Chelsea for a long time. He is not obsessed with becoming the best, all he really cares about is that he is happy and enjoying his football. As long as he happy at Chelsea and his family are happy in London he will remain a Chelsea player.

If he did have a Ronaldo like mentality he probably would become the best in the world but he would also have left Chelsea a few years ago, he is still a world class footballer and I'm happy with the way he is.

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