November 6, 20169 yr Was nice till it lasted. Mane and Coutinho quickfire double, Watford ain't coming back. Pool will leapfrog into first.
November 6, 20169 yr Not sure if anyone agrees but it seems Conte chooses players based on their talent, Jose chooses more of their mentality.
November 6, 20169 yr Pool 5:0 up as well. The front three of Firmino, Mane and Coutinho just about trumps Chelsea's.
November 6, 20169 yr Pool 5:0 up as well. The front three of Firmino, Mane and Coutinho just about trumps Chelsea's.I don't agree. Ours is much more talented when on song.
November 6, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, Jon Stakes said: Pool 5:0 up as well. The front three of Firmino, Mane and Coutinho just about trumps Chelsea's. Not really. Hazard and Costa edge those three.
November 6, 20169 yr 2 hours ago, Jon Stakes said: Pool 5:0 up as well. The front three of Firmino, Mane and Coutinho just about trumps Chelsea's. Hazard is better than anyone in the league on form. Costa top scorer in the league. And Pedro has won something like 16 trophies including the WC. Plus Michy is a better forward than anything they have on the bench.
November 6, 20169 yr 3 minutes ago, coco said: Hazard is better than anyone in the league on form. Costa top scorer in the league. And Pedro has won something like 16 trophies including the WC. Plus Michy is a better forward than anything they have on the bench. I am not sure Batshuayi is better than Sturridge yet. Sturridge is faltering but on his day a top class striker. But yeah, Hazard is the best player out of those mentioned. However the trio of Firmino, Mane and Coutinho has been tried longer and performed longer in league however in the 5 games we have played Pedro, Hazard and Costa, all three have been brilliant.
November 6, 20169 yr what is particularly good about this run of form is that it has clearly convinced the players and the fans of his methods. hopefully, this is true of the board too (i.e. abramovich). now when we hit some difficulties I feel optimistic that he will be backed because we have clear evidence of what type of team he is capable of producing. I mean I think anyone who was familiar with his work at juve would've been positive about him, and anyone who saw italy could see he was capable of making players play beyond what you might expect, but he has now shown he is capable of doing that here. that is crucial.
November 6, 20169 yr Loving what he is doing with the team and the level of entertainment the team is providing. I don't really look at tactics that closely and don't really mind what formation we play as long as the coach is comfortable with it and gets the most out of the players. I see us at the moment as being a sort of counter attacking team but don't see anything wrong with that. Fergies Utd at their best played a similar way and they were never more dangerous than when on the back foot because they hit you with speed and numbers and a lot of skill. In both our recent Utd and Everton wins I was amazed to see our possession in both games, apparently Utd had 52% against us and Everton 40. Looking at both games I'd have thought we had 70/80% because of our dominance. Now when we have the ball we are only looking to hurt teams with speed, numbers and a lot of skill, no faffing about from side to side while teams get organised. Loving it.
November 6, 20169 yr 3 hours ago, goose said: Loving what he is doing with the team and the level of entertainment the team is providing. I don't really look at tactics that closely and don't really mind what formation we play as long as the coach is comfortable with it and gets the most out of the players. I see us at the moment as being a sort of counter attacking team but don't see anything wrong with that. Fergies Utd at their best played a similar way and they were never more dangerous than when on the back foot because they hit you with speed and numbers and a lot of skill. In both our recent Utd and Everton wins I was amazed to see our possession in both games, apparently Utd had 52% against us and Everton 40. Looking at both games I'd have thought we had 70/80% because of our dominance. Now when we have the ball we are only looking to hurt teams with speed, numbers and a lot of skill, no faffing about from side to side while teams get organised. Loving it. I think the beauty of the style we're playing is that we aren't afraid of keeping the ball, but we just try to move it quickly and expose the opposition with good movement. Eg. when Moses hit the post we had kept the ball for a while, probed on the right, then moved the ball across quickly enough to pull the defence out of shape and carved out an opportunity. In past seasons, particularly pre-Fabregas, it felt as if we were unable to do this. Once the opposition had gotten into their defensive shape we were out of ideas. And then on the other end, in big games we looked like we were scared of keeping the ball and would force the issue instead of probing like we did yesterday. At times it felt like we were only able to score on the break.
November 7, 20169 yr 40 minutes ago, BelgradeCFC said: One of the first videos i've seen of this type that's well edited.
November 7, 20169 yr 19 hours ago, evissy said: Not sure if anyone agrees but it seems Conte chooses players based on their talent, Jose chooses more of their mentality. Well that backfired because the talent was there the mentalities were deplorable, the man has been brilliant for us but this particular group seem to do terrible with negative energy round them. Started with Mou then a couple of players by the end looked like all their dogs had died at the same time moping around the pitch collectively with heads down bar Willian. I think conte picks the right men for the right job, he understands the players I guess as an ex player more than Mou who has a ridged philosophy that if he doesn't have the right players doesn't work, conte however, sees what he has and builds a team on it. He is more of a coach Jose was more a manager, conte concentrates on football and coaching the team, these players need a coach with each player told specifically what his role is, given lectures, shown videos, and that then being barked at them from the touch line, he is a perfect fit for this group as we can see on the pitch.
November 7, 20169 yr 18 hours ago, coco said: Hazard is better than anyone in the league on form. Costa top scorer in the league. And Pedro has won something like 16 trophies including the WC. Plus Michy is a better forward than anything they have on the bench. Yeah but none of them are African
November 7, 20169 yr What I really noticed on v Everton was that when attacking Alonso and Moses really do have "whitewash on their boots", especially when they haven't got the ball. That means we always have width available. Under Jose, and Guus, we often ended up very narrow trying to force our way through the middle. This wing-back width gives Hazard and Pedro more space to work their magic. I think in the five wins we have seen the team progress with the system, from counter-attacking to dominating. Where next? I suspect that Conte has been working on this system from day 1, and was trying to bed it in in training while relying on the tried-and-tested 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 system initially in matches. The ease with which the team has adapted since half-time in the Arsenal game is fantastic, and suggests it was something already being worked on a lot. I remember reading various things by Juve fans when Conte first signed / arrived about his methods and tactics. They were all positive about him, and their intelligence about what to expect seems to be becoming reality quicker than expected. Forza Conte.
November 7, 20169 yr 22 hours ago, evissy said: Not sure if anyone agrees but it seems Conte chooses players based on their talent, Jose chooses more of their mentality. Let me say, simply, that Conte believes in team spirit and his empowerment: so is the team to exalt individualities. In this sense, like someone wrote in a post before this mine, he's really a coach first than a manager. Is for that that I fall in love with him when coaching Juventus ... and still I'm :-). Is the essence of Olympia, the essence of all sports! Mou believes in individual class. He always pretends expensive buyings, he wants the best players. And then he works for build a team consciousness ... with results not Always clear (see last year and this year ...). On 06/11/2016 at 11:29, Panda said: Conte was a far better player than that. He wasn't Zidane, but he was the captain of a Juventus side that reached two consecutive CL finals. And Paolo Montero was a superb defender, despite being a psychopath. Psycopath! Really ... but his "garra" ... we all love him! The truth is Conte was a part of a dream team. Peruzzi, Ferrara, Paulo Sousa, Zidane, Deschamps, Jugovic, Del Piero, Vialli ... the only "normal" players were Di Livio and Torricelli ... Conte stayed in the middle between the only two normals and the martians!
November 7, 20169 yr Jose is a product of Chelsea in some way. He knew he can only survive Roman by playing the odds. Buy the best talent and make them click.
November 7, 20169 yr On 10/31/2016 at 20:48, Jamieblue said: Not sure a song has really picked up for mr konte since the start of the season....been living abroad for a few years and havent been to the bridge for a while. Me and my chelsea mates here have gone for "alle-ssandro konte.....alessandro ohhhh" (to the tune of "don't you want me baby"). Any other shouts? Feel the godfather deserves a song! On 11/1/2016 at 04:48, PloKoon13 said: That Chaka Khan chant seems pretty popular? I didn't realize what Master Jedi PloKoon was on about until I watched this video
November 8, 20169 yr Didn't know where to put this, but is quite funny looking back and how true this was.
November 8, 20169 yr Every week looking to see when someone playing against us plays a tactical rock to our tactical scissors.And every week I enjoy seeing the opposition come at us with paperDon't want to get too carried away, but I'm happy little duck right now
November 8, 20169 yr On 11/6/2016 at 23:11, evissy said: Not sure if anyone agrees but it seems Conte chooses players based on their talent, Jose chooses more of their mentality. I think Jose choose's more on the player's ability to adapt to the system... . . although he has been failing. Or maybe the players are failing him.
November 8, 20169 yr 19 hours ago, enigma said: Didn't know where to put this, but is quite funny looking back and how true this was. The coach we deserve and need right now. - Batman
November 8, 20169 yr If Conte and Klopp finish top two (on top of Leicester last year and Atletico sustained challenge with Real/ Barca) it will show up all the chequebook supporters who thought a blank cheque was the only way Conte could succeed here. Unlike Jose, Antonio is quite evidently a big believer in work on the training ground.
November 8, 20169 yr 20 hours ago, enigma said: Didn't know where to put this, but is quite funny looking back and how true this was. You got it from my post on the Title Challenge thread :P but I got it from the twitter handle Pete's Chauffeur @bunce1957
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