27 minutes ago, Beerqueen said:

Out of interest, which long insightful posts do you think have been largely ignored?

I have seen in times good posts have minimal to no likes and no responses, yet an obvious troll got 11. Im not going to re go through posts just to prove a point but it does happen and not just here.

OK fair enough.  Sometimes it's easier to dash off a glib or sarky comment to a stupid post than it is to put together a long, detailed response to a lengthier one (especially when you're meant to be doing something else 

Doesn't mean anything really other than time is sometimes of the essence.

8 hours ago, Beerqueen said:

Out of interest, which long insightful posts do you think have been largely ignored?

Of course, the 'insightfulness' and 'quality' of a post are subjective but like in any social comminity, a combination of several factors determines how much a user listens to a 'post'. In an ideal world, we would want the "listening power" of a post to depend entirely on relevant content and on how unintuitive the reasoning in the post is. We may now critique the reasoning and determine how 'insightful' the post really was in our opinions. The academic world is supposed to work in exactly this way.

Unfortunately (but not unexpectedly) in the scientific world and perhaps not necessarily unfortunately in non-scientific discussions, these ideals are never reached. Certain keywords, certain names, certain emotions often determine the "listening power" of a post much more than its content itself. For example, if someone comes along and says in this thread "Coutinho is much better than Hazard" (a completely meaningless statement given the thread and context), it will still generate great interest. This forum, like every other, also has a degree of nepotism which results in one poster's post being more likely to be listened to than another's given exactly the same content. This means that we now run the risk of a more 'insightful' post by a less listened to poster being discussed less than a post without 'insight' by a more listened to poster.

More general opinion about what may have need quite a specific question.

5 hours ago, ashwin said:

Of course, the 'insightfulness' and 'quality' of a post are subjective but like in any social comminity, a combination of several factors determines how much a user listens to a 'post'. In an ideal world, we would want the "listening power" of a post to depend entirely on relevant content and on how unintuitive the reasoning in the post is. We may now critique the reasoning and determine how 'insightful' the post really was in our opinions. The academic world is supposed to work in exactly this way.

Unfortunately (but not unexpectedly) in the scientific world and perhaps not necessarily unfortunately in non-scientific discussions, these ideals are never reached. Certain keywords, certain names, certain emotions often determine the "listening power" of a post much more than its content itself. For example, if someone comes along and says in this thread "Coutinho is much better than Hazard" (a completely meaningless statement given the thread and context), it will still generate great interest. This forum, like every other, also has a degree of nepotism which results in one poster's post being more likely to be listened to than another's given exactly the same content. This means that we now run the risk of a more 'insightful' post by a less listened to poster being discussed less than a post without 'insight' by a more listened to poster.

More general opinion about what may have need quite a specific question.

This post is far too long and insightful so i'm just going to ignore it. 

What a man! 

http://www.football-italia.net/94672/conte-‘juventus-must-aim-cl’

Looking at the improvement of so many of our players all over the park, it makes you wonder what Conte can put together as a coach, IMO we have the best coach we have ever had (I am not saying manager, I am saying coach). When you look at the players that haven't made it here, it seriously makes you question how many would have had Conte been around. 

Now we know at this level it is a results based business, which nowadays means a coach/manager isn't afforded time, especially at our club. But I have to say as much as he was my first choice as the next manager, I have been massively impresssed by his coaching skills, how many of these players would have been undervalued by another incoming manager, indeed how many of them were written off by a lot of us. The improvement of so many individuals in so short a time proves Conte is something special, the likes of which I haven't encountered before at this club. 

I seriously think we can look forward to acquiring some outstanding, not necessarily today's star name(s), talent, and a bright future for the academy after all these years. 

Edited November 22, 20169 yr by nutmegsw6

10 hours ago, ashwin said:

This forum, like every other, also has a degree of nepotism which results in one poster's post being more likely to be listened to than another's given exactly the same content.

is it good or bad thing?

Veri'appy with Conte so far. He isn't rigid and affords opportunities to youngsters. Cautiously optimistic as it is a very long season and we are bound to hit some roadblocks. Also, our first 11 is quite strong but not sure if one of Hazard, Costa or Kante gets injured.

I still think we might fall short but Conte has exceeded all expectations so far.

Forza Conte.

11 hours ago, JoseBlues said:

Veri'appy with Conte so far. He isn't rigid and affords opportunities to youngsters. Cautiously optimistic as it is a very long season and we are bound to hit some roadblocks. Also, our first 11 is quite strong but not sure if one of Hazard, Costa or Kante gets injured.

I still think we might fall short but Conte has exceeded all expectations so far.

Forza Conte.

Agree with you there, but from what I'm seeing of Chalobah I think he'd do the job in midfield to cover for Kante if he were to miss out a game, not to the same degree because Kante is world class, but i'm loving how Conte is giving Chalobah good minutes, hopefully he can start to do the same with some other youngsters.

 

Too lazy to browse through the thread so I'll just say what may have already been said but I have to say it.

How refreshing it is to have a someone in charge who doesn't bitch and complain about bad decisions and doesn't hide behind made up excuses, who doesn't throw his own players under the bus and is full of integrity after the wfinal whistle, no matter what the result. Apparently you can have a winning mentality and still act in a dignified manner. Who knew.

Antonio has class. I'm proud of having him being our manager.

Agree with you there, but from what I'm seeing of Chalobah I think he'd do the job in midfield to cover for Kante if he were to miss out a game, not to the same degree because Kante is world class, but i'm loving how Conte is giving Chalobah good minutes, hopefully he can start to do the same with some other youngsters.
 

Agree that we have a little more backup if Kante goes down as compared to Hazard and Costa. Really like him giving meaningful minutes to youth and not 2 min extra time.

On 11/22/2016 at 19:26, enigma said:

http://www.football-italia.net/94672/conte-‘juventus-must-aim-cl’

They've been flirting with it for the past two seasons and isn't that their goal in getting Higuain?

So does Mourinho gets credit for getting Pedro?

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/735832/Antonio-Conte-Chelsea-Pedro-Premier-League-tactics

“I had no doubt Antonio was going to do a good job for Chelsea.

“If you have that kind of passion, it is like adding salt to the meal — and that makes it a little bit tastier. It is the same for Antonio and Chelsea.”

“I know Antonio’s value. Over the years, I’ve seen how well he works. The only question I had was if his methods were going to stick with the players quickly because Antonio is quite intense.

“But everyone at Chelsea has bought into it. If the players can feel that passion, then they are more fired up.

“There is no doubt Antonio is a winner. Winning three back-to-back Italian titles with Juventus is an incredible feat.

“Wherever he goes, he does a good job. The competition in the Premier League now is tougher than what he had in Italy.

“But he’s up to the challenge. Winning is in his blood. He’s in great shape and I really hope they can continue.”

“He was very similar as a player. Yes, very intense, very hardworking, focused, dedicated to football. You see the same characteristics as a boss.  We are Latins, so we participate a lot with the voice and gestures.

“And remember, we were in a dressing room with a lot of big characters — Paolo Maldini, Franco Baresi, so there was a lot of people to pick things up from.

“But he is actually completely opposite off the pitch. He’s very settled and reasonable.

“Sometimes you see people in the game who have a certain personality and you expect to see the same thing in normal life — that’s not the case with Antonio.

“We have a wonderful relationship. We played together in the national team, so we kept contact.

“I’ve showed him a couple of restaurants for dinner but it looks like he already knows where to go!

“He likes Italian food and is a ‘good fork’ as we say in Italy when somebody appreciates their food.

“I don’t know what his favourite food is but last time we went out for a meal, we ate fish in Chelsea. And we had some Italian wine, for sure.”

“There’s a good connection between Chelsea and Italy.

“Roberto Di Matteo, Gianluca Vialli and myself started it — then Carlo Cudicini, Claudio Ranieri and Carlo Ancelotti.

“Now Antonio is continuing that. There always seems to have been an Italian connection. I think we like each other.

“It was a quick settling in process for me and Antonio is doing the same. It’s all very positive for Chelsea.”

“It’s an important game but it’s not going to be decisive. The margins are very narrow.

“Three weeks ago, everyone was sure Manchester City were going to win the league. Then it was Tottenham, then Arsenal and now it’s Chelsea.

“People wrote Chelsea off as possible title winners after defeats to Liverpool and Arsenal. They deserve to be top now and they’re playing well.

“But my old club, along with City and Liverpool, have more chance than the others because they look solid enough to be there until the end.

“Those three teams not only have the ability to win games but also the consistency, balance and strength to maintain the rhythm.”

“I really hope for him and Chelsea that he can reach Mourinho’s level. It’s a good comparison and we will see if he can do that.”

~Gianfranco

^ No mention of Dalla Bona? Disgraceful!

^ No mention of Dalla Bona? Disgraceful!

Lol lol I actually liked him he was decent on his best day

On 11/24/2016 at 00:09, abramovich said:

Too lazy to browse through the thread so I'll just say what may have already been said but I have to say it.

How refreshing it is to have a someone in charge who doesn't bitch and complain about bad decisions and doesn't hide behind made up excuses, who doesn't throw his own players under the bus and is full of integrity after the wfinal whistle, no matter what the result. Apparently you can have a winning mentality and still act in a dignified manner. Who knew.

Antonio has class. I'm proud of having him being our manager.

we haven't been in a #CRISIS yet, so too early to judge. not that I'm skeptical toward him or anything...

We did lose to Arsenal and Liverpool.....we all know and have seen what Mourinho's reactions would have been. My viewpoint is you can respect someone for their talent, and appreciate how good they are at what they do, without liking them, and that's how I viewed Mourinho. Too much drama, too much angst, too much finger pointing and too much us or me against the world. It got really tiresome, He was not always like that, but it got bad towards the end and at several other points. There are managers who are born winners, but will not b***h, moan and complain and point fingers constantly, I'm truly hoping Conte is one of them. Signs are good thus far.

The man's done it again. After conceding early we regrouped quite brilliantly and shut them out (although I would gone for the third first, it worked). Great management. 

On 25/11/2016 at 21:31, PloKoon13 said:

^ No mention of Dalla Bona? Disgraceful!

How quickly we forget the time when Ryan Giggs was called the Welsh Ambrosetti.

It's refreshing to see how much space we create in our attacks with Moses running up and down his side. Both our wingbacks have been scoring goals and had several more opportunities to do so. It's a huge contrast to how Mourinho setup our team, with a stationary Azpilicueta playing on the wrong side and Ivanovic on the right. 

 

I will say, though, what was he thinking with those subs? Unless he was injured, Hazard should have stayed on to help retain possession and look for space in behind Spurs as they pushed, and Ivanovic...I thought he was going CB with Azpi coming wide, looked really shaky as he clearly can't play wide anymore.

30 minutes ago, comtrend said:

It's refreshing to see how much space we create in our attacks with Moses running up and down his side. Both our wingbacks have been scoring goals and had several more opportunities to do so. It's a huge contrast to how Mourinho setup our team, with a stationary Azpilicueta playing on the wrong side and Ivanovic on the right. 

 

Couldn't see it on TV but I imagine Moses made up some serious ground to be so unmarked in the box for his goal. 

In this form it looks like Costa, Hazard and Pedro are necessitating double-teams and Alonso and Moses are allowed way too many opportunities.

Me and my good friend bola are liking Conte in ways that one man really shouldn't like another but he does need to lose the Ivanovich substitute thingy.

When he came on Ivan probably had more chance of spelling Georges-kevin N'koudou than he did of actually tackling him.