13 hours ago, forbzy said:

I think we still have a chance to keep him at the bridge. I am not convinced we need to match Real's wages. Obviously we will need to improve on our offer to Rudiger but if he wants to stay then hopefully a compromise can be reached.

Several different sources report Toni wants a deal to make him the highest paid defender in the PL.

The current highest paid defender in the league is Raphael Varane at 340k a week. No way we pay Toni close to that, it would make him our top earner even matching it.

 

He's good but he's not 350k/wk good. If he wanted 250k instead, I'd say sign the papers immediately

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Several different sources report Toni wants a deal to make him the highest paid defender in the PL.

The current highest paid defender in the league is Raphael Varane at 340k a week. No way we pay Toni close to that, it would make him our top earner even matching it.

Where have you read that? 

The Athletic are reporting today he rejected our offer of £140k per week which wouldn't even make him one of the top 10 players at the club, which given his current importance to the team I can understand why he feels he is worth more. From the same article

"But before anyone gets too excited, it doesn’t sound like Chelsea are close to matching Rudiger’s demands — a four-year deal worth between £180,000 and £200,000-a-week.

Obviously, he will expect a signing-on bonus from his next deal, whoever it is with, too. But reports he is looking for a fee that will mean he effectively gets £400,000-a-week have been dismissed."

If he wants £200k a week if feels like an absolute no brainer. To replace him we’d have to pay a new guy that plus a massive transfer fee. I get that we generally don’t offer long contracts to people his age but it seems daft not to at 29 

Agree with this, he is totally worth the £200k a week he asks for. We simply need to sign him up to a new contract. Not only we'd miss Rudi the footballer, but his leadership skills are second to none in our squad. If you'd have told me a couple of seasons back that Rudiger (the ticking bomb at that point) will become a vital part of our squad and probably the most influencial voice on the pitch, all this backed up by his faultless performances, I'd have considered it madness that no medication is able to cure. Right now, Rudiger and Thiago Silva bring the same leadership that JT used to bring, Ramos used to bring at Madrid etc.

6 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Where have you read that? 

The Athletic are reporting today he rejected our offer of £140k per week which wouldn't even make him one of the top 10 players at the club, which given his current importance to the team I can understand why he feels he is worth more. From the same article

"But before anyone gets too excited, it doesn’t sound like Chelsea are close to matching Rudiger’s demands — a four-year deal worth between £180,000 and £200,000-a-week.

Obviously, he will expect a signing-on bonus from his next deal, whoever it is with, too. But reports he is looking for a fee that will mean he effectively gets £400,000-a-week have been dismissed."

I forget the rag that said it but Skysports have also had their transfer expert say it.

Now apparently United are favorites as RR let Toni's brother know they will pay him more than Varane and make him the highest paid defender in the league.

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Now apparently United are favorites as RR let Toni's brother know they will pay him more than Varane and make him the highest paid defender in the league.

Can't see him ditching us to go to manure.

Are UK clubs even allowed to negotiate and offer pre contracts to him at the moment? I thought he was only free to negotiate with foreign clubs?

So it seems like he can play in 2 CB's formation as well.

Sign him up Chels!

2 minutes ago, IliyaKrostin said:

So it seems like he can play in 2 CB's formation as well.

Sign him up Chels!

Mate defending against dross like Spurs doesn't count. Let's see how he goes in a back 4 against a proper team first!

9 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Can't see him ditching us to go to manure.

Are UK clubs even allowed to negotiate and offer pre contracts to him at the moment? I thought he was only free to negotiate with foreign clubs?

Nope they cannot.

But a quite word here of what he would get if he waits through his agent, of course that would not happen either eh?

We absolutely can not afford to let him go under any circumstances. He has speed, never gets beaten on a one on one, good in the air, and most importantly has that agression that gets the team and crowd going. We absolutely must give him 200k a week, it would cost us 60m to replace him plus whatever wages a 60m player commands. Would be a shocking error to lose him.

11 minutes ago, Oli said:

We absolutely can not afford to let him go under any circumstances. He has speed, never gets beaten on a one on one, good in the air, and most importantly has that agression that gets the team and crowd going. We absolutely must give him 200k a week, it would cost us 60m to replace him plus whatever wages a 60m player commands. Would be a shocking error to lose him.

Fully agreed. I think the problem is the daft thing that clubs see a contract renewal differently from a new signing. If they considered the negotiations as if it was a new player on a free transfer the wages would be agreed easily. That, in effect, is the position with Rudiger. 

I wouldn't just be signing him on again. I'd be making him captain and also asking him to rock up on YouTube with a video of him sh*tting on a Spurs top. I reckon he is up for that.

Rejected 200k per week. Not sure what planet some of these footballers are on, people around the world are struggling post-pandemic but as always the rich come out better off from it. 

37 minutes ago, charierre said:

Rejected 200k per week. Not sure what planet some of these footballers are on, people around the world are struggling post-pandemic but as always the rich come out better off from it. 

Mbappe getting 800k a week at real won't help.

Let him go.

It's been going on too long for me, lets see if he can find a good move.

Silva, Chalobah, Sar maybe Kounde, James can also play as a CB. 

There are options, don't like this feeling of being held to ransom.

Toni has an offer worth 400k a week from PSG and also a better offer from Real that us.

This is the trend we are seeing, players know they can get better deals running down their contracts and netting really high signing on fees too.

I would not be surprised at all if Jorgi and Kante do the same in a year. Every chance Paris slaps 500k a week offer to Kante.

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31 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Toni has an offer worth 400k a week from PSG and also a better offer from Real that us.

This is the trend we are seeing, players know they can get better deals running down their contracts and netting really high signing on fees too.

I would not be surprised at all if Jorgi and Kante do the same in a year. Every chance Paris slaps 500k a week offer to Kante.

not Kante, he already has a mini cooper he doesn't need another one

That is just pure incompetence from Granovskaia if thats true.

Finally giving in to the demands Rudiger would have signed on half a year ago, AFTER he's been allowed to talk to clubs on the continent and been offered a lot more than 200k.

Probably pissing away a huge asset with an extreme lack of foresight.

 

Edited February 4, 20224 yr by Sindre

16 minutes ago, Sindre said:

That is just pure incompetence from Granovskaia if thats true.

Finally giving in to the demands Rudiger would have signed on half a year ago, AFTER he's been allowed to talk to clubs on the continent and been offered a lot more than 200k.

Probably pissing away a huge asset with an extreme lack of foresight.

 

Negotiations have been ongoing since October. But Rudi was biding his time as this will be his last big payday. I don't resent him for trying to earn as much as he can. We can't break our structure for him. We didn't do it even for Hazard even though he was the highest paid at that time. 

If PSG are offering 400k+, by all means he can leave.

1 hour ago, charierre said:

Rejected 200k per week. Not sure what planet some of these footballers are on, people around the world are struggling post-pandemic but as always the rich come out better off from it. 

I don't blame footballers one bit for cashing in on their asset.

While 200k compared to 400k is very unlikely to see Rudiger himself live paycheck to paycheck anytime soon it could be the difference between setting up 3 generations of his family or 4.

Maybe I’m the only one but I don’t think he is leaving. He’s spoke about his sons being born in London and loving it here, so he probably wants to stay. 

I think he’s pushing Chelsea as far as he could before accepting. After all he said he’s doing what’s best for his family and maybe he actually wants 200k a week. A lot of reports are saying an offer closer to 200k a week, not actual 200k. For all we know, he could be 20/30k away from signing.

If he’s got better offers from PisSG or Real Madrid, for god’s sake man, go to Madrid, at least they are proven winners and not just a bunch of whingeing  losers. But, he’s never going to be as loved as he is here in any of those two teams. 

12 hours ago, RomansRoubles said:

Negotiations have been ongoing since October. But Rudi was biding his time as this will be his last big payday. I don't resent him for trying to earn as much as he can. We can't break our structure for him. We didn't do it even for Hazard even though he was the highest paid at that time. 

If PSG are offering 400k+, by all means he can leave.

Try 2 seasons ago during the Lamps era. Personally would have sold him after the CL win, he is clearly taking the piss

 

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Toni has an offer worth 400k a week from PSG and also a better offer from Real that us.

This is the trend we are seeing, players know they can get better deals running down their contracts and netting really high signing on fees too.

I would not be surprised at all if Jorgi and Kante do the same in a year. Every chance Paris slaps 500k a week offer to Kante.

No he doesn’t! They have both called off negotiations because of his demands. That is why he has come back to the table, and declared his love for London.

 

12 hours ago, RMH said:

If he’s got better offers from PisSG or Real Madrid, for god’s sake man, go to Madrid, at least they are proven winners and not just a bunch of whingeing  losers. But, he’s never going to be as loved as he is here in any of those two teams. 

You can’t allow him & Christensen to set a precedent and demand ridiculous wages by running down their contracts. What happens when James & Mount decide to do the same, and start demanding £200k/w? The club’s commercial revenue growth has slowed down, and we aren’t pulling enough money in through the gates because of our small stadium compared to our rivals. Our wages are already spiralling out of control.