13 minutes ago, luckywerthers said:

maybe he should of kept the ball down, but would hardly call it a sitter

Yeah, the ball was too high and it would have taken a remarkable effort of contortion to get his boot behind it. At least he was in the right place at the right time. I doubt Giroud would have been anywhere near it.

Sadly I just laugh now when I watch Morata toil away and f**king up. It's a case of laugh rather than cry.

Picked up a stupid yellow for dissent yet again, and honestly could have had an immediate second for clapping the referee.

Can't wait until we replace him.

Rubbish replaced total garbage, because i can barely remember Giroud involved, one half chance, we might as well of just played 10 men

All the top 5 bar us have decent goalscorers

Embarassing today.

Terrible attitude when he came on.

Such a fragile boy. He has the talent to be a 20 goal striker even for this league but his fragile mind lets him down. Even Sarri said he is fragile and this was a public statement.

Him changing his number to 29 was a sign he is trying but his method of improving is through praying or wishing more than working for it. New number, new start. 

You can see every time he scores he is not relieved he looks a boy in pain. 

Hate to say it but we need someone else to tandem Giroud.

I've always liked his movement, but what good is that when you aren't scoring goals? I think he read Hazard's play well and got himself into the right position for the rebound, he does have those striker instincts but then he fails to score an easy chance. 

He's embarrassingly bad in front of goal and I can't remember him being this way before Chelsea. That chance he missed for Spain the other week was one of the worst misses I've seen in a while, horrendously bad, that can not be good for anyone's confidence. 

1 minute ago, evissy said:

Such a fragile boy. He has the talent to be a 20 goal striker even for this league but his fragile mind lets him down. Even Sarri said he is fragile and this was a public statement.

Him changing his number to 29 was a sign he is trying but his method of improving is through praying or wishing more than working for it. New number, new start. 

You can see every time he scores he is not relieved he looks a boy in pain. 

Hate to say it but we need someone else to tandem Giroud.

Very rarely agree with you but you're spot on here, if he or Giroud was to go I would say him even though Giroud is in his 30's. Giroud actually offers something, Morata doesn't, he's frustrating. 

He just isn't clinical enough it's as simple as that really, he can get into the right positions but he can't score the goals, there's absolutely no reason for why he shouldn't already have over 10 goals this season, he's had plenty of chances. 

9 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Very rarely agree with you but you're spot on here, if he or Giroud was to go I would say him even though Giroud is in his 30's. Giroud actually offers something, Morata doesn't, he's frustrating. 

He just isn't clinical enough it's as simple as that really, he can get into the right positions but he can't score the goals, there's absolutely no reason for why he shouldn't already have over 10 goals this season, he's had plenty of chances. 

Giroud any day of the week......he has a different mentality and offers something at least. Seeing Arsenal playing with Auba and Laca ought to show the board that all teams need quality strikers to go places. We are the only team in top6 who do not have fire power......it will and has proved to be costly.

33 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Very rarely agree with you but you're spot on here, if he or Giroud was to go I would say him even though Giroud is in his 30's. Giroud actually offers something, Morata doesn't, he's frustrating. 

He just isn't clinical enough it's as simple as that really, he can get into the right positions but he can't score the goals, there's absolutely no reason for why he shouldn't already have over 10 goals this season, he's had plenty of chances. 

You are spot on agreeing with me. ;-) 

Needs to get gone ASAP 

bloody awful attitude 

20 hours ago, evissy said:

Such a fragile boy. He has the talent to be a 20 goal striker even for this league but his fragile mind lets him down. Even Sarri said he is fragile and this was a public statement.

The season is so long, that there isn't really time for outside training, but watching him again yesterday I thought to myself... some MMA training would do this guy WONDERS

I scouted American football players for years, and I always liked the kids that wrestled, because they had terrific balance, knew how to grapple and were mentally strong.

Morata is either physically weak, has terrible balance, or worse... both... he never keeps his feet when trying to hold a defender on his back. The slightest touch sends him over, even if he isn't looking for the foul (rare, I know)

but 6 weeks in an MMA camp... and I don't even mean striking, but just the training and grappling, and we'd see a different person come out. The mental confidence you get knowing how to handle yourself can be life changing. The toughness and training he'd pick up in even a short period of time could be game-changing for him.

 

When you say American football are you talking NFL? Don't really see a link between that and real football tbh. 

How about water polo training to toughen up Morata, I heard it's fierce!

And chess training to improve his mental balance.

Let's face it: anything will help, even getting him an early morning paper round.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

When you say American football are you talking NFL? Don't really see a link between that and real football tbh. 

Yes, but my scouting was more from high school to college, with some NFL Draft kicked in. 

My point was that cross training in a different sport can be beneficial in so many ways. Kids that grow up playing football (soccer) usually have great balance, good feet, and excellent endurance. Those attributes cross over to virtually every other sport. Baseball is a game of failure and it helps build mental toughness. Basketball is similar to Football in the benefits with footwork and endurance. 

Kids that play multiple sports in their youth are typically better at what they choose to do as they get older because of these crossover benefits. This is a bit of a different conversation as we’re discussing youth development versus off field training for a professional athlete. 

I see professional athlete do yoga, kickboxing, swimming, CrossFit, rock climbing.. you name it... in order to not only change up their training routine to keep stimulated, but also the benefits that come from different types of training. 

Its a bit tougher with football, because there is hardly any end to the season, especially in a World Cup year. But I promise you, a couple of sessions of MMA training would do wonders for Morata. MMA isn’t about striking as much as something like boxing or kickboxing as it is balance and grappling. 

Watching Giroud use his body and leverage for hold up is where this would show up quickly. That’s not very different than wrestling. 

Mans yes, despite Valerie’s sarcasm... it dang sure isn’t going to hurt... everyone says the same thing about Morata.. he never stays on his feet and he’s not tough enough (physically or mentally)... so how could we possibly improve those aspects...

well.... 

35 minutes ago, Skinnedy said:

Yes, but my scouting was more from high school to college, with some NFL Draft kicked in. 

My point was that cross training in a different sport can be beneficial in so many ways. Kids that grow up playing football (soccer) usually have great balance, good feet, and excellent endurance. Those attributes cross over to virtually every other sport. Baseball is a game of failure and it helps build mental toughness. Basketball is similar to Football in the benefits with footwork and endurance. 

Kids that play multiple sports in their youth are typically better at what they choose to do as they get older because of these crossover benefits. This is a bit of a different conversation as we’re discussing youth development versus off field training for a professional athlete. 

I see professional athlete do yoga, kickboxing, swimming, CrossFit, rock climbing.. you name it... in order to not only change up their training routine to keep stimulated, but also the benefits that come from different types of training. 

Its a bit tougher with football, because there is hardly any end to the season, especially in a World Cup year. But I promise you, a couple of sessions of MMA training would do wonders for Morata. MMA isn’t about striking as much as something like boxing or kickboxing as it is balance and grappling. 

Watching Giroud use his body and leverage for hold up is where this would show up quickly. That’s not very different than wrestling. 

Mans yes, despite Valerie’s sarcasm... it dang sure isn’t going to hurt... everyone says the same thing about Morata.. he never stays on his feet and he’s not tough enough (physically or mentally)... so how could we possibly improve those aspects...

well.... 

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a black belt in martial arts and has stated that it's helped his game on the football pitch and also prolonged his career. It makes sense to me.

Gonna throw this out there, but lets condition and train footballers to play football. I'm sure there are plenty of drills they do to help improve balance etc. Some people have it, others don't. I don't think retraining in another sport at age 26 will help much.

It'll work, and Lukaku's first touch will improve massively after 13 years of first team football

17 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Gonna throw this out there, but lets condition and train footballers to play football. I'm sure there are plenty of drills they do to help improve balance etc. Some people have it, others don't. I don't think retraining in another sport at age 26 will help much.

That wasn’t his point.  He didn’t say “stop all of the football training and do yoga.”  Some of the most athletic, physically imposing people in the world (NBA and NFL) regularly partake in different styles of training to increase endurance/balance/quickness, etc.  The point is, it’s entirely possible that it would help Morata.

2 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

That wasn’t his point.  He didn’t say “stop all of the football training and do yoga.”  Some of the most athletic, physically imposing people in the world (NBA and NFL) regularly partake in different styles of training to increase endurance/balance/quickness, etc.  The point is, it’s entirely possible that it would help Morata.

Ahh yes, a 6 week MMA bootcamp go hand in hand with the duties of a professional footballer with their daily training sessions, three matches a week and rest sessions for muscle fatigue.

9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Ahh yes, a 6 week MMA bootcamp go hand in hand with the duties of a professional footballer with their daily training sessions, three matches a week and rest sessions for muscle fatigue.

I made two posts... in both of them I acknowledged the difficulties of not having an offseason like most professional sports. 

1 hour ago, Skinnedy said:

Yes, but my scouting was more from high school to college, with some NFL Draft kicked in. 

My point was that cross training in a different sport can be beneficial in so many ways. Kids that grow up playing football (soccer) usually have great balance, good feet, and excellent endurance. Those attributes cross over to virtually every other sport. Baseball is a game of failure and it helps build mental toughness. Basketball is similar to Football in the benefits with footwork and endurance. 

Kids that play multiple sports in their youth are typically better at what they choose to do as they get older because of these crossover benefits. This is a bit of a different conversation as we’re discussing youth development versus off field training for a professional athlete. 

I see professional athlete do yoga, kickboxing, swimming, CrossFit, rock climbing.. you name it... in order to not only change up their training routine to keep stimulated, but also the benefits that come from different types of training. 

Its a bit tougher with football, because there is hardly any end to the season, especially in a World Cup year. But I promise you, a couple of sessions of MMA training would do wonders for Morata. MMA isn’t about striking as much as something like boxing or kickboxing as it is balance and grappling. 

Watching Giroud use his body and leverage for hold up is where this would show up quickly. That’s not very different than wrestling. 

Mans yes, despite Valerie’s sarcasm... it dang sure isn’t going to hurt... everyone says the same thing about Morata.. he never stays on his feet and he’s not tough enough (physically or mentally)... so how could we possibly improve those aspects...

well.... 

That wasn't sarcasm, it was desparation 

I find the cross-over thing very interesting, as a matter of fact. I can see how it would benefit an athlete to improve weak points, physical as well as mental.

4 hours ago, Skinnedy said:

The season is so long, that there isn't really time for outside training, but watching him again yesterday I thought to myself... some MMA training would do this guy WONDERS

I scouted American football players for years, and I always liked the kids that wrestled, because they had terrific balance, knew how to grapple and were mentally strong.

Morata is either physically weak, has terrible balance, or worse... both... he never keeps his feet when trying to hold a defender on his back. The slightest touch sends him over, even if he isn't looking for the foul (rare, I know)

but 6 weeks in an MMA camp... and I don't even mean striking, but just the training and grappling, and we'd see a different person come out. The mental confidence you get knowing how to handle yourself can be life changing. The toughness and training he'd pick up in even a short period of time could be game-changing for him.

 

Not sure MMA would be ideal considering the risk of injuries to legs. 

Just now, enigma said:

Not sure MMA would be ideal considering the risk of injuries to legs. 

Yup... I do think of it as more of the training regimen and the grappling. Not full on match preparation. I wouldn't want my multi-million dollar athlete actually doing live sparring. 

Being able to hold your balance with someone draped all over you is what I see Giroud doing every game. Posting up as a basketball player is very similar to hold up play. 

Like I said, just a thought, realistic or not, that I feel a discipline like that would do wonders for him. I'm not surprised to learn that Zlatan has incorporated that training into his life. It might sound trivial, but the confidence you gain by knowing that you actually are one of the baddest men on the pitch can help your game, especially for a guy like Morata with a bad reputation that invites bullying by bigger defenders.