I'm not one to wish for bad things to people but I hope he doesn't go to the world cup.

The world cup is a footballer's crowning glory. For all the work they have put into football for their teams, they get rewarded with an appearance at this 4 yearly spectacle.

Some put this work into their club and others into their national teams, with competition most times the basis of link from club to national team.

Man's not done enough for football for his club. Man's not strong. Mentally first and then physically.

Man don't deserve a world cup appearance.

On 15/03/2018 at 13:00, Valerie said:

Isn't his partner pregnant?

Rare that he gets in the box let alone shoots on target.

Sorry Val, i'll go soap my mouth now.

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Rare that he gets in the box let alone shoots on target.

Sorry Val, i'll go soap my mouth now.

 No need in my account, but if you insist, I recommend just swilling with something alcoholic.

Edited March 18, 20188 yr by Valerie

20 hours ago, STATS said:

Sorry mate, but you really are confusing me like Slojo said. How can you say two performances of Bakayoko give you hope but with Morata you write him off. A player who ran United's defence ragged all day long and scored a brilliant header. Also, he probably is the only striker to run ragged Atletico's defence the way he did this season. Godin could not handle him and Atletico arguably have the best defence in Europe. That doesn't actually make any sense.

As for your last sentence, you just blurting out names for the sake of it. Belotti, it would be harsh to call a one season wonder however he has scored 5 goals this season, yes only 5 goals. However you are stating that we could have gone for him. He is somewhat unproven himself...

Again, you could look at my previous posts in the summer. Belotti/werner were my top priorities definitely ones before morata. Yes, Belotti is having a poor season but he seems to have the qualities required to succeed in PL, something that morata simply does not seem to have. 

AS for the comparision between morata and baka, I think i explained why i would give stick with one, and cut our losses with another. While Slojo can go on a rant and somehow throw an hyperbole about KDB and salah (even though I can dare him or literally anyone to post even one post I made about salah being a mistake, its really easy to generalize stuff and use it to make a point just like Slojo did there, hence dont feel the need to quote him any longer). For me the qualities to succeed in PL is missing from morata (the qualities I mentioned in the previous post), hence I dont get a good feeling about him. I would gladly be proved wrong but dont see it happening.

Edited March 18, 20188 yr by didierforever

19 hours ago, coco said:

But isn't it just as crazy for people to say we were right to get rid of Salah and KDB while simultaneously claiming Morata hasn't had long enough ?

I dont think a person has to be in either "we were right to sell" "we were wrong to sell" groups.

Despite Salah's recent season, I dont think it was a mistake to sell him then. He was poor for us and I feel it was a good decision to sell him.

Kdb I have a completely different take. Its based on player to player basis. Some look the cut, some just dont. Morata definitely does not.

Edited March 18, 20188 yr by didierforever

Finally, this happened, Morata scored on 1vs1 situation! 

Overall he had a poor game.

Good to see Morata get a goal and like you say a 1 v 1 goal too.

Not sure he is totally back yet that must be a big boost to his confidence.

Undoubtedly better than Giroud when on his game and if he is, we have a better chance to make top 4.

Awful hold up play today. Really needs to learn how to use his body better. 

When the ball gets played into his feet with his back to goal, it needs to stick, either lay it off, or win a free kick. I've seen smaller strikers hold the ball up 10 times better. Even someone like Defoe or paul f**king dickov can hold the ball up better. 

That frustration aside, he took his goal well, and wasnt whining all game. 

I would still prefer to see him starting over giroud, as I think giroud lack of pace is a bit of a killer. 

4 minutes ago, big blue said:

Awful hold up play today. Really needs to learn how to use his body better. 

When the ball gets played into his feet with his back to goal, it needs to stick, either lay it off, or win a free kick. I've seen smaller strikers hold the ball up 10 times better. Even someone like Defoe or paul f**king dickov can hold the ball up better. 

That frustration aside, he took his goal well, and wasnt whining all game. 

I would still prefer to see him starting over giroud, as I think giroud lack of pace is a bit of a killer. 

Yes he is more mobile and gets into good positions. The ref gave him a couple of decisions today too. 

I'm interested that now he has scored whether he will turn a corner and finish the season strongly, we could certainly do with it.

Scored a goal with his feet and didn't get booked, whats going on?

4 hours ago, didierforever said:

Again, you could look at my previous posts in the summer. Belotti/werner were my top priorities definitely ones before morata. Yes, Belotti is having a poor season but he seems to have the qualities required to succeed in PL, something that morata simply does not seem to have. 

AS for the comparision between morata and baka, I think i explained why i would give stick with one, and cut our losses with another. While Slojo can go on a rant and somehow throw an hyperbole about KDB and salah (even though I can dare him or literally anyone to post even one post I made about salah being a mistake, its really easy to generalize stuff and use it to make a point just like Slojo did there, hence dont feel the need to quote him any longer). For me the qualities to succeed in PL is missing from morata (the qualities I mentioned in the previous post), hence I dont get a good feeling about him. I would gladly be proved wrong but dont see it happening.

Still miles away from the player we need and the player he was several months ago, but still glad to see him score and even better a 1 on 1. 

He's not actually a bad player at taking people on with the ball in the box, but his decision making after that was dreadful against Leicester, plenty of times he should've passed instead of shooting from silly angles. I still think Morata in from trumps Giroud inform any day, and we would be wise to try and get him back to his earlier self if we want to salvage anything from this horrible season. 

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

Still miles away from the player we need and the player he was several months ago, but still glad to see him score and even better a 1 on 1. 

He's not actually a bad player at taking people on with the ball in the box, but his decision making after that was dreadful against Leicester, plenty of times he should've passed instead of shooting from silly angles. I still think Morata in from trumps Giroud inform any day, and we would be wise to try and get him back to his earlier self if we want to salvage anything from this horrible season. 

I dont think at this time with us hunting for top 4 we can afford to alter our tactics and formation to accommodate Morata and nurse him back to form. Giroud is the only hold up striker we have and he needs to start. Unless Conte wants to play a 2 striker formation with Giroud and Morata.

23 minutes ago, brownindian said:

I dont think at this time with us hunting for top 4 we can afford to alter our tactics and formation to accommodate Morata and nurse him back to form. Giroud is the only hold up striker we have and he needs to start. Unless Conte wants to play a 2 striker formation with Giroud and Morata.

On the contrary, I don't think Giroud is good enough to send us into the top 4. 

Morata on form is better than Giroud in my humble opinion, if we can get our striker back to scoring ways and troubling defenders with other players playing well we can at least pressure Spurs on their 4th spot. 

A million times better that performance last night. 

I don't know if he's got the quality to lead the line for us for a whole season but his finish last night was a much needed reminder that he does have the ability to score good goals, unfortunately we haven't really seen that since we played Stoke away in the league. 

Really need him to find some form and help us finishing strongly for the remainder of the season. 

Great goal from Morata! And what a stat!

 

Call me biased all you want because I wanted Morata over Lukaku to begin with but I think he deserves more time, he's got the physical attributes and technical skill to be a world class striker, he just needs the right mentality.
I do think Morata will succeed eventually.

6 hours ago, Caballero said:

Great goal from Morata! And what a stat!

 

If you think stat is impressive you should go and see Batshuayi's goal/assist return for minutes played. Some players are made to be an impact sub. 

6 hours ago, Caballero said:

Great goal from Morata! And what a stat!

 

Shows you how f**ked up stats are !

1 hour ago, coco said:

Shows you how f**ked up stats are !

How? He was actually good for his old clubs. 

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

How? He was actually good for his old clubs. 

As has been mentioned, Michy has a better minutes per goal ratio than Morata, but we let him go on loan, why is that? if the stats are so black and white, why did we let our most prolific scorer go ? Because you don't need stats to see who is playing poorly or well.

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

How? He was actually good for his old clubs. 

didn't he go like 29 games or something without a goal for Juve and couldn't nail down a starting spot against a very poor Benzema for Real?

20 hours ago, Slojo said:

On the contrary, I don't think Giroud is good enough to send us into the top 4. 

Morata on form is better than Giroud in my humble opinion, if we can get our striker back to scoring ways and troubling defenders with other players playing well we can at least pressure Spurs on their 4th spot. 

I respect your take and I feel bad arguing with you on this cos i too believe that when he is in top form and is played in a formation that suits him he is capable of it, but lets live in the now shall we ?

-Chelsea right now are in a sluggish form. Willian and Kante (Alonso could be slotted in perhaps)are pretty much our in form players right now. Morata seems to excel only when the ball is played to his feet in space or a cross is put when he is in space. How often has that happened recently ?

-Also, how much of Conte's style of play seems to be built on that as opposed to try and have the front man hold up the ball ? A lot of what applies to Morata could very well apply to Batshuayi and Conte did not want him. Giroud does the donkey work of holding up the ball and allow Willian and Hazard to attack and not carry the burden of holding the ball. He also provides a physical presence to trouble the defenders and a tall target to head the ball into the net

-Also, which do you think was our better performance? A winning effort against Leceister in the FA cup or the losing effort against Barcelona in Spain ?I feel like if we could bring that intensity we brought to Barcelona into all our remaining games, top 4 is ours for sure. And that means getting Hazard and Willian more into the mix.

 

14 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

didn't he go like 29 games or something without a goal for Juve and couldn't nail down a starting spot against a very poor Benzema for Real?

Having spoken to Real Madrid fans, that assertion isn't the case. Last Season Morata had the second most goals in the league, more than Messi I believe.
Trouble is, Benzema links up better with Ronaldo, therefore Morata mostly came on as an impact sub, of which he was very successful at doing.
Real Madrid fans were actually very angry that the club sold Morata and many this season have openly stated that they would've preferred to sell Benzema. 

1 minute ago, TomCFC85 said:

Having spoken to Real Madrid fans, that assertion isn't the case. Last Season Morata had the second most goals in the league, more than Messi I believe.
Trouble is, Benzema links up better with Ronaldo, therefore Morata mostly came on as an impact sub, of which he was very successful at doing.
Real Madrid fans were actually very angry that the club sold Morata and many this season have openly stated that they would've preferred to sell Benzema. 

Saw a lot of Madrid fans saying that with Morata for every goal he did score he'd miss 2 or 3 much easy chances. Certainly seems the case here too. Should definitely give him another year to try and sort himself out.