3 minutes ago, charierre said:

We're an embarrassment. Total disgraceful second half performance. Players and manager have questions to answer about their attitude and ability.

 

Yeah totally agree with the above, a total disgrace tonight

I’m done with this now.............what a load of s***e! The guy hasn’t got a clue. How can you be outrun by Bournemouth, they looked faster and picked us off at will. Get rid of Sarri he’s out of his depth in this league. I mean where is RLC and CHO from the start it’s a joke. 

First time we have lost by a 4 goal margin since Roman took over. Embarrassing. Spurs win. Arse win. What a sh*t week.

There is no defending this group anymore, they have lost me. I don't see the fight, I don't see the determination and will to win. They step up in the big games but don't seem to give a damn about the games in between.

If they don't want to fight, then I don't see why I should be supporting them. 

I'm fairly sure that's the first time we've lost by more than three goals since 2001... when we lost 5-1 to a Teddy Sheringham-fuelled Tottenham in the League Cup. Not that we've played against anyone particularly impressive in that time...

But of course this is all building towards something, we keep developing week-by-week, we've certainly improved since the beginning of the season when we fluked games thanks to opposition striker continually missing sitters.

We're really entertaining to watch.

Wait...

 

We are the sixth best team in the league and the highlight of our season was beating our once pitiful rivals on penalties (who have already beaten us twice this season) on penalties after their manager figured our our "plan B" after 45 minutes.

 

I relate to the smoking anxiety he experiences on the touchline...

 

So how are we better, in any way, for having Sarri as our manager?

Edited January 30, 20197 yr by PloKoon13

3 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Man City and Liverpool aren’t getting papped 4-0 by Bournemouth

Oh but yesteday, ManU at home was losing 0:1 to Burnley, and then Burnley scored another goal making it 0:2...With Manu having just like we have the majority of possession all game long. But then a miracle happen you see, their players scored 2 goals and didn't lose the game in the end. How's that possible when Burnley knew how ManU plays, knew their players and had 2 goal lead? Is it because of the incredible rookie manager Solskaear or however the f**k you spell his name, or is it due to his players that actually care about not being humiliated?

8 minutes ago, forbzy said:

and yet the club got rid of Conte after failing to back him....

In retrospect, sacking him was a huge mistake ! Should have been backed instead of getting the shaft imo ... Now, this performance shows that WE MUST PLAY YOUTH !!! WE DONT HAVE MONEY TO REBUILD EVERYTHING BY SPLASHING 450 MILLION £ !!!! WE MUST PLAY OUR FCUKING YOUTH !!! Put 2 or 3 of them in the regular team, and then we could see the begining of better things ! 

 

Also, GET RID OF JORGINHO AND PUT BACK KANTÉ AT 6 !!! 

11 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

If this is true, then don't you think it's a big problem? How many coaches do we sack before pointing the finger at the players?

Player power at the club has to stop, it's starting to have a really negative affect on the club. What other club would accept Willian being so disrespectful to their manager after a cup win? He was even making jokes about it when he was interviewed a few weeks later. Willian is lucky to be still at the club after that. If Conte can lose his job for basically saying the players are rubbish and moaning all season, then the players should get the same treatment.

Agree with you 100 percent and it amazes me so many people calling for sarris head here, playing in to the very issue.

Same problems under 3 managers, toothless, down tools, fanning about, no aggression or personality.

 There is a rotten core at the club where player power is making it impossible for managers to succeed, the  second the players don’t fancy him it’s over, that’s not how a successful club should work. 

Then to compound that we have some bird who knows f**k all about football is running out club. 

Need a technical detector and a clear out in summer, in addition hazard is a wonderful player but he doesn’t work for us he needs to be in a team full of stars for his type of football to work, as much as I appreciate his ability I think he is probably the biggest diva in the dressing room, we should cash in on him and just rebuild the team under a new technical director. 

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Oh but yesteday, ManU at home was losing 0:1 to Burnley, and then Burnley scored another goal making it 0:2...With Manu having just like we have the majority of possession all game long. But then a miracle happen you see, their players scored 2 goals and didn't lose the game in the end. How's that possible when Burnley knew how ManU plays, knew their players and had 2 goal lead? Is it because of the incredible rookie manager Solskaear or however the f**k you spell his name, or is it due to his players that actually care about not being humiliated?

True. but tbf they got a lucky pen though. 

Kepa , kante and odoi, 3 players id keep, rest of them are completely replaceable, that includes hazard, barely gets past a brisk walk, he has no passion no effort and doesnt give a f**k about chelsea

The club has become a total joke and the blame lies firmly in the boardroom. Here we have a bunch of non-football, businessmen making all the decisions regarding players, managers etc. Good youngsters being sold or put out on loan to clubs who are reaping the benefit big time while we continue with substandard and ageing players who, in all truth would have a job holding down a regular place in teams like Southampton, Watford, Palace and the like. We have over the past few years lost high-quality managers who were forced to play players, quite frankly, not fit to wear the shirt because the board wouldn't back them in the transfer market while the likes of Liverpool, Man City, Tottenham and others have streaked ahead of us with rebuilding their squads, FFS we still have half the players who won the league with Mourinho!! Sarri was hired by the board as were most of the players who couldn't even get into the first team of their previous clubs. This is just beyond a joke. Just to finish, here's a quick resume of our wonderful BOD. read through this and see the accumalated wealth of footballng knowledge we have here. All profiles courtesy of Wikipedia.

Eugene Tenenbaum:

holds a bachelors degree in commerce and finance and a degree in economics from University of Toronto, from where he graduated in 1987 with distinction. He qualified as a Canadian Chartered Accountant with Price Waterhouse in Toronto where he worked in the audit department from 1987 until 1989.

From 1994 until 1998, he worked at Salomon Brothers, and was a director in the corporate finance unit of the investment bank. Prior to that, he spent five years in corporate finance with KPMG in Toronto, Moscow and London, including three years (1990-1993) as National Director of KPMG International in Moscow. From 1998 until 2001, he was the head of corporate finance for Sibneft (Siberian Oil Company) in Moscow, then co-owned by Abramovich.

Guy Laurence

He joined Vodafone in 2000. In Europe, Vodafone Germany and Vodafone Italy are larger than Vodafone UK. Vodafone UK is the third-largest mobile operator in the UK. From 2002 to 2005 he was Chief Executive of Vizavvi (Vodafone live!). In 2006 he became Chief Executive of Vodafone Netherlands. He became Chief Executive of Vodafone UK in 2009.

Vodafone UK in 2010–11 had £5.2bn in turnover. Vodafone UK is known as Vodafone Limited.

Marina Granovskaia

Granovskaia started working as Roman Abramovich's PA at his oil company and later became involved in transfers and contractual dealings for Chelsea FC. Her task of managing transfers sometimes put her at odds with managers who had their own ideas of who to sell or buy during the transfer window.^[5] Granovskaia was promoted to chief executive of Chelsea FC in 2014. According to The Times, her promotion made her the "most powerful woman in football."

Bruce Buck

American lawyer and founding managing partner of the London office of law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom. His practice areas are European mergers and acquisitions, project finance and capital markets. Buck’s involvement with Chelsea began through his position as European head of the American law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom. Skadden Arps specialises in mergers, acquisitions and capital market transactions, and Buck had personally done legal work on a number of acquisitions for the Russian company Siberian Oil (Sibneft), through which he came to advise Russian-Israeli billionaire Roman Abramovich, formerly the majority shareholder in Sibneft.

14 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

This summer, get rid of Hazard, and rebuild the whole team.

That's a worrying opinion. Would  you  give Sarri £200 million to spunk based on what you've seen so far?

I wouldn't. 

4 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I'll be very annoyed if we sack Sarri. We need to give him the time

Happy to give him time if he shows he can adapt but that looks very unlikely.

It's been said no end on here but just to reiterate, kante is the best defensive midfielder on the planet, f**king play him there. 

Even Antonio Conte, when actively hating the club and hating his job (and also sidelining his most decorated player out of sheer spite) managed to win the FA Cup with this group of players. 

Just now, just said:

That's a worrying opinion. Would  you  give Sarri £200 million to spunk based on what you've seen so far?

I wouldn't. 

It wouldn't be Sarri making the signings even if he is still here though. It would be the vast pool of football knowledge that makes up our board ;)

2 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Conte was gone when he didn't sign an extension. Conte wasn't sacked, he was shown the door he opened himself 

If that was the case I wouldn't blame him trying to work with board who have no vision and no guts to back managers when they need the support most against a troublesome player , or players that put in the kind of performance we saw tonight; we have let so many good successful managers go, rather than bring in some calmness and stability, but oh no, they would rather it be a continuing circus, especially in recent years of panic buys, buying mediocre squad players and having no direction for our young players. 

My team for the next match :

Arrizabalaga

Zappacosta, Christensen, Cahill, Alonso

Drinkwater, Barkley, RLC

Piazon, Higuain, Hudson-Odoi.

Time to bring in the Reece James , jay da Silva , tomori , mount , loftus , Abraham and odoi , at least they will fight for the shirt

 

 

7 minutes ago, Barry Bridges said:

Some people want to lay all the blame on Sarri.

Some people want to lay all the blame on the players.

Personally I think there is more than enough blame for all of them to have their fill of it.

Total agree, no hiding place for players or manager tonight, each have questions to answer about themselves. Simply not good enough.

Just now, PloKoon13 said:

Even Antonio Conte, when actively hating the club and hating his job (and also sidelining his most decorated player out of sheer spite) managed to win the FA Cup with this group of players. 

I didn't want to see Conte go. The board should have patched things up with him. Having said that when you talk about his Cup win last season, we are currently in one final, and the 5th round of the FA Cup, not to mention Europa.

1 minute ago, JMaher94 said:

Oh I agree with you, I dislike so many of our current group of players. Think they're mercenaries of the highest order.

In my opinion what we see is a clear sign of people mismanagement. Yes, players are prima donnas, but they are not gluttons for misery. If you are forced to play out of position, if you are forced to perform in a weird senseless setup, if you KNOW that your manager does not recognise nor use your best qualities and is a clueless waste of space, who is happy to blame you for his own screw-ups, then I very much doubt that you would enjoy your job and do your best.  Happy productive skilled environment produces desired outcome.   My wife can bake a beautiful delicious cake, but give me the same ingredients and you will get a dog's dinner, and I would surely blame flour and whatever else.

We were saying a striker is the problem, well GH did f**k all wrong, made all the right runs, was active, moved about, sharp, linked up, he got zero service.

Our problem is the same one it has always been our attacking midfield pass side to side, no one runs in, if and when the full backs overlap they deliver poor balls, and we don’t have a good pairing for Kante, same issues, side to side, no danger, no aggression, doesn’t matter if we brought in pep, klopp, whoever, with these players one way or another we will get side to side passing about the box, have done for years now. Building a team round hazard required players that run in behind, not a team of side to side stop and start players, doing what hazard does but not as well. 

D is too slow to play a high line against fast counters, passing to the opponent doesn't help and no one in the box for crosses  but we had 70% possession. I'm sad.

Edited January 30, 20197 yr by Blues Clues

Worrying thing is this is the team that will more or less start the next game. 

Haven’t seen the game but can’t believe we’ve conceded4 goals in one half. I know we’ve struggled up front, but to concede like this with a back four that we wanted is poor. Players who have been dropped have dodged a bullet. Worse result in premier league since 1996 against dippers away 5-1

Cant sack Sarri yet, he may have a system and tactics but doesn’t have control on the players decisions and movement every second of the game. These players should have the skill and brains to create and defend in every game.