February 8, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, terraloon said: They do sites such as ticketmaster, twickets, seatmaster. Theses are examples are three sites which I believe are authorised to re sale tickets and are in effect partners with some clubs. But we have members desperate for tickets who are waiting forever in the online "waiting room" without even eventually getting a ticket. Those tickets must be coming from seats that should be available for sale to our members. I can't think of any other way that ticket outlets get their hands on tickets for games months away .
February 8, 20251 yr The owners have totally destroyed the club. Despite spending a fortune we have mostly reduced the playing quality throughout the squad. I will be shocked if they change anything too, as they are clearly obsessed with this model of handling players like assets.
February 8, 20251 yr Ruining this club.. GK- from Kepa to Sanchez Rb - James to James Cb - Rudiger to Tosin Cb - Thiago to ??? Lb - chilly to Cc Mid Kante to Caicedo Mid - Kova ton Enzo Mid - Jorgi to KDH Attack - Mason to Palmer Attack - Havertz to Jackson Attack - Ziyech to Madueke Attack - Pulisic to Sancho Spent a billion and which position have they improved?? Clueless w**kers - ruining this club.
February 8, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, Jangz said: Ruining this club.. GK- from Kepa to Sanchez Rb - James to James Cb - Rudiger to Tosin Cb - Thiago to ??? Lb - chilly to Cc Mid Kante to Caicedo Mid - Kova ton Enzo Mid - Jorgi to KDH Attack - Mason to Palmer Attack - Havertz to Jackson Attack - Ziyech to Madueke Attack - Pulisic to Sancho Spent a billion and which position have they improved?? Clueless w**kers - ruining this club. Winners to unproven talents what do you expect lol we literally shot ourselves in the foot going for money instead of football IQ
February 8, 20251 yr Feel these guys are here and operating in bad faith .. a lot of lying and cheating of the fans with regards to their intentions here .. this ain’t making sense.
February 8, 20251 yr Please do not forget: regardless of the visible individual who happens to have caught your ire this week, the blame for whatever their fault is lies with the owners. They are responsible for everything which has happened since they Perestroika'd our club. BLUECO OUT!!
February 8, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Jangz said: Ruining this club.. GK- from Kepa to Sanchez Rb - James to James Cb - Rudiger to Tosin Cb - Thiago to ??? Lb - chilly to Cc Mid Kante to Caicedo Mid - Kova ton Enzo Mid - Jorgi to KDH Attack - Mason to Palmer Attack - Havertz to Jackson Attack - Ziyech to Madueke Attack - Pulisic to Sancho Spent a billion and which position have they improved?? Clueless w**kers - ruining this club. The crazy thing is that some of those positions shouldn't have been too hard to upgrade. Kepa, Kovacic, Jorginho, Havertz, Ziyech, Pulisic, all of them were really struggling at times for us. Kovacic was probably the most consistent of the lot, but his final season for us was rubbish. Kepa is a rubbish keeper, Jorginho was always an up and down player, Havertz was sh*t, Ziyech a let down, and Pulisic always injured and too lightweight. How have this lot failed to upgrade in these positions? it should be easy. Edited February 8, 20251 yr by Scott Harris
February 8, 20251 yr Any chance a Middle Eastern brother is still interested in paying these clowns off so that they get out of the club? Should have sold the club to that Saudi guys in the first place, but I guess the PL did not want another club owned by Saudi/UAE/Qatar. P.S. yes, I know what they are famous for and all the sportswashing but they have genuinely shown they know how to run a club.
February 9, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said: Please do not forget: regardless of the visible individual who happens to have caught your ire this week, the blame for whatever their fault is lies with the owners. They are responsible for everything which has happened since they Perestroika'd our club. BLUECO OUT!! I do wish most of the forum and more importantly, our fan base, could see with open eyes this and have open ears to hear the truth. Because until we are united, as we were over the super league, we won't do what we need to to force them out. They have told all of you what they value most, they have showed it with their actions. What more do you need? You don't truly love this club if you side with BlueCo, and if you are being paid off by them to spout their PR bullsh*t.
February 9, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, The Rising Sun said: I'm a season ticket holder. I can list my ticket on the club's ticket exchange for resale to members ( or other ST holders I think). BUT only for games coming up soon, and certainly not for games months away. I can forward tickets to ST and members that I have listed on my account. BUT I can only do that a day or two before the game. The only way tickets for games months away can be available on Vivid must be from the club somehow. .Or maybe the tickets for games months away that vivid list aren't really available to buy immediately? If the club is really involved, it makes a mockery of anti touting rules and is disregarding the money (and time) that members spend trying to obtain tickets. 10 hours ago, The Rising Sun said: But we have members desperate for tickets who are waiting forever in the online "waiting room" without even eventually getting a ticket. Those tickets must be coming from seats that should be available for sale to our members. I can't think of any other way that ticket outlets get their hands on tickets for games months away . As you say members are desperate for tickets and it is grossly unfair on them that they miss out if tickets are available at a very high price on ticket selling sites. It would be great to know how many tickets are available to members for each league game at the Bridge. Assuming that we have 25,000 season ticket holders and 3,500 tickets are available to away fans. Those two figures may be estimates but assuming they are correct that leaves approximately 14,000 available to members. Of course that figure will be reduced by the amount of tickets given to ticket agencies, corporates, sponsors, cronies of the board and friends and families of players and staff. It would be great if the club was to publish how many tickets are available to members but that will never happen. There is more chance or me supporting Celtic, giving up alcohol and giving away my books. I'm a cynical bastard. As has been mentioned does the club see ST holders and those members who are able to go to a lot of matches as big spenders? I suspect not i.e. we probably won't spend as much in the club shop and the ground's bars and cafes as corporates and those who only go to games a few times a year and will probably spend a fortune in the shop. Rant over.
February 9, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, Boyne said: As you say members are desperate for tickets and it is grossly unfair on them that they miss out if tickets are available at a very high price on ticket selling sites. It would be great to know how many tickets are available to members for each league game at the Bridge. Assuming that we have 25,000 season ticket holders and 3,500 tickets are available to away fans. Those two figures may be estimates but assuming they are correct that leaves approximately 14,000 available to members. Of course that figure will be reduced by the amount of tickets given to ticket agencies, corporates, sponsors, cronies of the board and friends and families of players and staff. It would be great if the club was to publish how many tickets are available to members but that will never happen. There is more chance or me supporting Celtic, giving up alcohol and giving away my books. I'm a cynical bastard. As has been mentioned does the club see ST holders and those members who are able to go to a lot of matches as big spenders? I suspect not i.e. we probably won't spend as much in the club shop and the ground's bars and cafes as corporates and those who only go to games a few times a year and will probably spend a fortune in the shop. Rant over. And here, ladies and Gentlemen of the Shed End, is why you should be against BlueCo. More than one result, one cup exit, one (or soon to be 3) bad seasons. Look what they are doing to diehard fans who spend their hard earned money to support us, and truly love our club. Look how much they care about them, and therefore you. LOOK AT IT!
February 9, 20251 yr On 07/02/2025 at 20:42, terraloon said: I might be wrong but I don’t think it’s the clubs that actually sell the tickets to Vivid. I think Vivid is a platform that outlets/ individuals use to sell on their tickets. In effect it’s a bit like eBay . From reading Vivids statement they do indeed get commission if a ticket is sold via them but they don’t own the tickets. This cannot be the case though. I understand this and the other point you make about established ticket resellers. But these are retail outlets selling tickets at or just before the point of general sale. Their commercial might and developed relationships with clubs and venue may give them a distasteful leg up but as you say, none of this is illegal. But the fact I can go on to Vivid Seats and be guaranteed seats for the Man Utd match in May, four months hence, surely cannot be right. Even if this is not physically illegal surely it is ethically corrupt and with Boehly on the board of both smacks of insider trading. Then putting this into the context that he had this association in 2021must call into question his fit and proper status, if not at the point of takeover surely under his continuing commitment to maintain that status. Edited February 9, 20251 yr by WhiteWall
February 9, 20251 yr I can’t understand how they’ve f**ked up the club so fast! From a strong, aspiring, title contenders club to mediocrity in three years. The club transpires apathy from top to bottom, they’re transforming us into the west London spurs…
February 9, 20251 yr On 25/01/2025 at 15:09, Sconnie Blue said: When you look at what Boehly is doing with the LA Dodgers, you just have to sigh. To put it in football terms, imagine we just won the league. Boehly is lining us up to buy Gyorkeres & Musiala. While at the same time buying Kerkez at LB and Marquinhos at CB.
February 9, 20251 yr The Blue Co business model is not working. They came in full of confidence with their strategy of buying up young talent and selling them on for huge profits, they even announced to the market what they were going to do. They selected experts in the recruitment area and so it began. They had done it before nothing could be more simple. Then reality struck. This market is different to theirs and they don't control it. Everyone has seen them coming and increased their prices for their young players. The players have not been selected for footballing reasons related to a premier league squad. The players values have now gone down because of the unbalanced squad/ erratic performance of the squad. They wish to offload these under performing players but can't sell them for profit so they loan them out to minimise the loss. Or keep them and let their value fall further, all the while tying up funds leaving them close to PSR limits. Selling homegrown talent and one or two gems will provide some relief. New managers players even sporting directors won't change this, the model doesn't work. At some point there will be a new or heavily modified model. Case studies for them in no particular order could include Trevor Chalobah Keirnan Dewsbury Hall Christopher Nkunku Conor Gallagher Raheem Sterling Caesar Casedei Axel Disasi And so on and on and on Edited February 9, 20251 yr by OneTommyLangley
February 9, 20251 yr 12 hours ago, axman2526 said: I do wish most of the forum and more importantly, our fan base, could see with open eyes this and have open ears to hear the truth. Because until we are united, as we were over the super league, we won't do what we need to to force them out. They have told all of you what they value most, they have showed it with their actions. What more do you need? You don't truly love this club if you side with BlueCo, and if you are being paid off by them to spout their PR bullsh*t. A few weeks ago during our good run of form there were gloating messages on here saying " where are all the haters and critics of the owners now ?" Well , we never went away. The owners have been an absolutely disaster. A decent run at the end of last season had Todd proudly proclaiming that the plan was " working beautifully" Fans should be aware of how they have ruined our club.from the very first day they took ownership. Nonsense on here that we were in terminal decline and " things had to change" to explain their ridiculous decisions are way out of line.. I read that reason they " invested" on us is that they are gambling on a massive increase in broadcasting income by the time they are allowed to trade shares, take dividends and pay themselves management fees when the 10 year embargo is up . Never forget they are here ONLY to extract wealth from our great club to provide returns to their investors.. That's all. Come on you BLUES.
February 9, 20251 yr Some of the higher ups need to be looked at, especially the sporting directors. But I do remember when people would rant about Marina and Emenalo constantly. I don't think we should be replicating Brighton. Replicate Man City and their success (minus the 115 charges, please).
February 9, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said: I read that reason they " invested" on us is that they are gambling on a massive increase in broadcasting income by the time they are allowed to trade shares, take dividends and pay themselves management fees when the 10 year embargo is up . Never forget they are here ONLY to extract wealth from our great club to provide returns to their investors.. That's all. Come on you BLUES. Mark Walter and his Guggenheim Baseball Management consortium (of which Boehly has 20%) bought LA Dodgers for $2.1 billion in 2012. That franchise is apparently now valued at about $6.3 bn. This sort of appreciation is what they are all banking on happening in football. The $2.1 billion was twice what anyone had previously forked out for a baseball franchise, and most commentators thought they had severely overpaid. Sound familiar ? You don't have to make annual profits either for a business valuation to increase.
February 9, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said: Mark Walter and his Guggenheim Baseball Management consortium (of which Boehly has 20%) bought LA Dodgers for $2.1 billion in 2012. That franchise is apparently now valued at about $6.3 bn. This sort of appreciation is what they are all banking on happening in football. The $2.1 billion was twice what anyone had previously forked out for a baseball franchise, and most commentators thought they had severely overpaid. Sound familiar ? You don't have to make annual profits either for a business valuation to increase. Biggest difference is that Boehly/GBM have spent top dollar building arguably the best team ever assembled in baseball history.
February 9, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said: Biggest difference is that Boehly/GBM have spent top dollar building arguably the best team ever assembled in baseball history. Main difference is that they don't have the primary shareholding, and so Clearlake have derailed things with this player-trading "profit" model. Still spent a lot of money but most of it is on prospects, potential and profit opportunities, rather than on players that immediately improve the first team. This is where it has gone wrong for me.
February 9, 20251 yr Refuse to waste time writing anything long about this lot so I will keep saying this until they fix the club: f**kING TWATS!!
February 9, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said: A few weeks ago during our good run of form there were gloating messages on here saying " where are all the haters and critics of the owners now ?" Well , we never went away. The owners have been an absolutely disaster. A decent run at the end of last season had Todd proudly proclaiming that the plan was " working beautifully" Fans should be aware of how they have ruined our club.from the very first day they took ownership. Nonsense on here that we were in terminal decline and " things had to change" to explain their ridiculous decisions are way out of line.. I read that reason they " invested" on us is that they are gambling on a massive increase in broadcasting income by the time they are allowed to trade shares, take dividends and pay themselves management fees when the 10 year embargo is up . Never forget they are here ONLY to extract wealth from our great club to provide returns to their investors.. That's all. Come on you BLUES. Don't believe that 10 year no sale clause mate. Is garbage, they could sell today if they wanted to.
February 9, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, WhiteWall said: This cannot be the case though. I understand this and the other point you make about established ticket resellers. But these are retail outlets selling tickets at or just before the point of general sale. Their commercial might and developed relationships with clubs and venue may give them a distasteful leg up but as you say, none of this is illegal. But the fact I can go on to Vivid Seats and be guaranteed seats for the Man Utd match in May, four months hence, surely cannot be right. Even if this is not physically illegal surely it is ethically corrupt and with Boehly on the board of both smacks of insider trading. Then putting this into the context that he had this association in 2021must call into question his fit and proper status, if not at the point of takeover surely under his continuing commitment to maintain that status. I am not sure of the legal requirements when it comes to ST holders but they will know pre season that they are guaranteed a ticket for all PL games and with 99.99% certainty they know the location of the seat one of the lads that has two ST behind us in the WSL is rarely at games nowadays and his seats are occupied . I very much doubt the occupants are listed in his ticket account so his tickets one way or the otherwise are sold on. For reference you can go into many of the resale sights and get tickets look here at Ticombo https://www.ticombo.com/en/sports-tickets/football-tickets/premier-league?p=7&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADEUh9enxIH6YF_3p84COl3to-DkG&gclid=CjwKCAiAwaG9BhAREiwAdhv6Y4aET_q_lWC8HhDOxSB3pkZ3x8ZLfyTt8GsxdJYaDOYtGfr4jE7nCxoCSUUQAvD_BwE Ticombo aren’t an authorised agency but look at the number of tickets they are offering for games toward the end of the season and certainly not on general sale yet at most clubs.
February 9, 20251 yr We were better off with todd as sporting director. At least he signed some experienced players.
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