Thing with Sarri is that it feels like we’ve lost the ability to win ugly. Every goal has to be beautiful and passed a million times. 

Theres games when you just get one goal no matter how you get it. Doesn’t feel like Sarri allows the players to do that. I suspect that’s why he’s never won a trophy and fails at the final hurdle. 

Great analysis, really liked the part about midfielder shooting from outside the box. On so many occasions, We were passing around on the edge of the box and nobody was interested t have a crack. When the opposition parked 2 lines of defenders inside the box, it's almost a no brainer to have a crack, lukcy deflection, handball, anything could happen.

I think Sarriball doesn't involve shooting outside the box and crossing the ball from the wings into the box. It's no surprise that we the opponents are always happy to let us have the ball in front of there box because they know we are less threatening in that situation. Pertaining to crossing the ball, most teams don't really expect is to do that either, that's why it often appears amazing any time CHO is able to get a good cross into the box because our opponents were expecting a pass instead and so they panic and we are left with a good chance to score, I think CHO will be getting lots of assist if we are having Higuain and Giroud in the box with his cross. Unfortunately Sarri won't ever like to surprise our opponents with something like that!

19 hours ago, Nibs said:

Morris worked marvels with the Academy and is the perfect No. 2  

I like the idea of getting Morris involved in the first team coaching/management setup in the near future. He worked with the Academy for quite a while and is already familiar with some of the players we will (hopefully) be bringing through. 

I agree.  If Lampard hadn't had the career he had with us, would he be the candidate we'd all want to manage us after what he's done at Derby?

After seeing how Derby played against United and us, even if there manager is any of our ex player: SWP, Ferreira, Malouda, Alex I can give him a chance because atleast he knows the league, he can motivate his players and also get the best out of them.

The amount of people on here over the last few seasons that pretty much said these exact words - "I don't care if we lose I just want to see the team have a go" or "I don't care if we finish 10th I just want to see some attacking football". Well that's exactly what we have now and suddenly people have changed their minds. The short sightedness is incredible sometimes.

I don’t rate Emery at all, IMO he will never be a top tier manager.
Historically, Emery cannot coach a defence properly. Sevilla regularly conceded 50+league goals a season under a him, Valencia wasn't far off from being the same too.
Arsenal conceded 46 so far, with 3 games to go they could well concede over 50, something Emery has done again.

The top 8 teams in the EPL have better defenders than Arsenal, so am not surprised.

5 minutes ago, wallosh said:

48 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I don’t rate Emery at all, IMO he will never be a top tier manager.
Historically, Emery cannot coach a defence properly. Sevilla regularly conceded 50+league goals a season under a him, Valencia wasn't far off from being the same too.
Arsenal conceded 46 so far, with 3 games to go they could well concede over 50, something Emery has done again.

The top 8 teams in the EPL have better defenders than Arsenal, so am not surprised.

That doesn’t even make sense.

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

Doesn’t feel like Sarri allows the players to do that.

I don't disagree... we space everything AROUND the penalty area instead of having players IN the penalty area. We whipped in something like 35 crosses against Burnley, to one striker surrounded by 4 defenders and the keeper.

You watch other teams and when they're in attack, there can be up to six players in the area... we're lucky if we have more than one in a scoring position when the ball comes in. 

Judging by some of the comments on whose not rated as a manager, you’d think he only the only ones who ever knew what they were doing were Jose for a few seasons, Conte for one, and Pep Guardiola.

All these wouldn’t touch em with a barge pole remarks because they’ve never won anything of note are pathetic IMO. 

Football is a simple game. Sometimes players gel, sometimes they don’t, more often than not the silverware doesn’t get shared around, and the success or failure of a team doesn’t solely hinge on whoever’s manager.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, rtwelch said:

The amount of people on here over the last few seasons that pretty much said these exact words - "I don't care if we lose I just want to see the team have a go" or "I don't care if we finish 10th I just want to see some attacking football". Well that's exactly what we have now and suddenly people have changed their minds. The short sightedness is incredible sometimes.

It depends how someone views attacking football, the football this season has mostly been awful to watch.

2 hours ago, rtwelch said:

The amount of people on here over the last few seasons that pretty much said these exact words - "I don't care if we lose I just want to see the team have a go" or "I don't care if we finish 10th I just want to see some attacking football". Well that's exactly what we have now and suddenly people have changed their minds. The short sightedness is incredible sometimes.

But that's exactly it - we DON'T have that.

What we have had for large parts of the season is tiki-taka, passing / possession football but very often hardly troubling the opposition goal-keeper and very few actual shots on goal. And the team not having a go but failing to turn up in the second half.

I was one of those who said I honestly wouldn't mind not winning trophies if a new coach brought in and implemented more of the academy players and we saw progress with better football. Sarri has introduced a few of the youngsters (all be it belatedly) but (and I know it's a matter of opinion), the actual football, for large parts, has been incredibly dull. Maybe it is still a work in progress and he needs longer but I can understand the reasons why many are sceptical as to whether Sarri will be able to achieve it.

 

You have to say he does handle himself well with the media...

On the subject of Burnley, Chelsea boss Maurizio Sarri was asked at his news conference what resulted in his sending off against the Clarets last weekend. 

"The fine was because I was out my technical box. It was true so I have to pay, I think," Sarri said. 

"I went there, in my opinion, for a good reason. But I was out, so I have to pay, of course. 

"In my career I made a lot of mistakes on the pitch, so I understand that sometimes you can say something you don’t think. 

"I think it was a strong discussion, but in my opinion it has to remain on the pitch."

2 hours ago, wallosh said:

On 24/04/2019 at 16:19, Desailly123 said:

Solskjaer has nowhere near the CV of Sarri don't be so deluded.  

I still can't think of something Sarri has achieved in his career as a manager, winning the Carabao cup final would have change my opinion about him a little bit though.

90+ points in serie A with Napoli is an achievement. 

It's a country mile better than winning the league cup and managing a Norwegian team. 

2 hours ago, JM7 said:

Thing with Sarri is that it feels like we’ve lost the ability to win ugly. Every goal has to be beautiful and passed a million times. 

Theres games when you just get one goal no matter how you get it. Doesn’t feel like Sarri allows the players to do that. I suspect that’s why he’s never won a trophy and fails at the final hurdle. 

Last 'ugly' goal I could remember was the Barkley one against United in the 96th minute, there was a few good minutes of long balls into the box leading up to the corner and goal. Ironic after the game Sarri's concern was we didn't play the 'right' way. We have seen Giroud came on to save a match, but we pretty much played the same way, no thought of using his height and trying anything different.

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Edited April 26, 20197 yr by rtwelch

1 minute ago, Nibs said:

But that's exactly it - we DON'T have that.

What we have had for large parts of the season is tiki-taka, passing / possession football but very often hardly troubling the opposition goal-keeper and very few actual shots on goal. And the team not having a go but failing to turn up in the second half.

I was one of those who said I honestly wouldn't mind not winning trophies if a new coach brought in and implemented more of the academy players and we saw progress with better football. Sarri has introduced a few of the youngsters (all be it belatedly) but (and I know it's a matter of opinion), the actual football, for large parts, has been incredibly dull. Maybe it is still a work in progress and he needs longer but I can understand the reasons why many are sceptical as to whether Sarri will be able to achieve it.

 

We have had the second most shots in the premier league this season though. We are trying to attack, we're just not doing it well enough. Backed up by the fact we have the 4th most shots on target and the 6th most goals.

13 minutes ago, Nibs said:

But that's exactly it - we DON'T have that.

What we have had for large parts of the season is tiki-taka, passing / possession football but very often hardly troubling the opposition goal-keeper and very few actual shots on goal. And the team not having a go but failing to turn up in the second half.

I was one of those who said I honestly wouldn't mind not winning trophies if a new coach brought in and implemented more of the academy players and we saw progress with better football. Sarri has introduced a few of the youngsters (all be it belatedly) but (and I know it's a matter of opinion), the actual football, for large parts, has been incredibly dull. Maybe it is still a work in progress and he needs longer but I can understand the reasons why many are sceptical as to whether Sarri will be able to achieve it.

 

I agree it is dull though when the team doesn't have answers. I just feel like a proper pre-season, including getting the proper fitness in for the pressing game we want to play will have us zipping it about so much better.

There’s always next season, with new players. Every club have had their transfer ban appeal being a success, so I’d be surprised if we weren’t successful as well.

3 hours ago, wallosh said:

23 hours ago, Boston Blue said:

I agree.  If Lampard hadn't had the career he had with us, would he be the candidate we'd all want to manage us after what he's done at Derby?

After seeing how Derby played against United and us, even if there manager is any of our ex player: SWP, Ferreira, Malouda, Alex I can give him a chance because atleast he knows the league, he can motivate his players and also get the best out of them.

Yeah, how is that working out for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer?  How did that work out for Darren Moore at West Brom?  Just because you're a legend and know your former club, doesn't make you a good manager.  Why didn't United go for Roy Keane?  Or Steve Bruce?  Former club legends that have managerial experience.  They went of OGS as an interim stop-gap, short term good results and a feel good atmosphere forced them into naming him permanent manager, and things aren't going well.  Maybe he'll turn it around, or maybe the job at hand is beyond his managerial abilities.  

I understand we love our legends.  But I also know how fickle we can be as supporters.  

1 hour ago, Nibs said:

But that's exactly it - we DON'T have that.What we have had for large parts of the season is tiki-taka, passing / possession football but very often hardly troubling the opposition goal-keeper and very few actual shots on goal.

 

14 minutes ago, coco said:

 

judging by those stats, shot accuracy seems to be a big issue for Chelsea

Edited April 26, 20197 yr by robdog

5 hours ago, wallosh said:

On 24/04/2019 at 12:28, Skinnedy said:

Personally, I think if Emery gets Arsenal to the Top 4, and I think he will, he should be a serious manager of the year candidate
Top 4 with that disaster of a Back 4 is miracle work.
 

Have got lots of admiration for him. When you also consider how many times this season he has lost Monreal, Koscielny and Bellerin to injury, and still manage to guide that team to the semi finals of the Europa league and still in contention for the top 4, you start wondering if he is getting the recognition he deserves from the media.

You got to be kidding me. Arsenal are where they are because Aubameyang and Lacazette have scored 19 and 13 goals, respectively. And then you go on to say you admire Emery because he manages to take Arsenal to the EL semifinals and contention for top 4 despite missing some defenders due to injury. Well, guess what, Chelsea with Sarri have done the same plus we've played a final which we lost to Manchester City on penalties. And all this having Hazard as the top scorer with just 16 goals and a very iffy defence. The lengths you go to defend any other coach for the sake of downplaying Sarri...

5 hours ago, wallosh said:

On 24/04/2019 at 12:28, Skinnedy said:

Personally, I think if Emery gets Arsenal to the Top 4, and I think he will, he should be a serious manager of the year candidate
Top 4 with that disaster of a Back 4 is miracle work.
 

Have got lots of admiration for him. When you also consider how many times this season he has lost Monreal, Koscielny and Bellerin to injury, and still manage to guide that team to the semi finals of the Europa league and still in contention for the top 4, you start wondering if he is getting the recognition he deserves from the media.

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Edited April 26, 20197 yr by RMH
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for some reason emery seems to have slipped under the media spotlight, which is strange seeing that the goons are a top 4 side, it must make his job easier

3 hours ago, rtwelch said:

The amount of people on here over the last few seasons that pretty much said these exact words - "I don't care if we lose I just want to see the team have a go" or "I don't care if we finish 10th I just want to see some attacking football". Well that's exactly what we have now and suddenly people have changed their minds. The short sightedness is incredible sometimes.

Not sure I remember someone not caring about finishing 10th, but 'having a go' isn't something I'd associate with this Sarri's side, if anything, they're very fragile mentally and are having serious confidence issues. Probably because they're struggling to create anything up front and are never sure if they can keep the opponents from  scoring, either. If we were an exciting to watch free scoring side but with some serious issues defensively, you could bring up the 'having a go' argument. As it stands, we're not that at all.