Just now, Zeta said:

Well, I guess...here we go again.

Take your pick:

Frank Lampard
1/3

Massimilano Allegri
3/1

Diego Simeone
12/1

Nuno Espírito Santo
14/1

Jose Mourinho
16/1

Steve Holland
20/1

Brendan Rodgers
25/1

Gian Piero Gasperini
25/1

Gianfranco Zola
25/1

Javi Gracia
25/1

Laurent Blanc
25/1

Arsene Wenger
33/1

Eddie Howe
33/1

Emma Hayes
33/1

Guus Hiddink
33/1

John Terry
33/1

Marcelo Bielsa
33/1

Thomas Tuchel
33/1

Didier Deschamps
40/1

Luis Enrique
40/1

Carlo Ancelotti
50/1

Leonid Slutsky
50/1

Mikel Arteta
50/1

Sean Dyche
50/1

If Sarri stays, bookies win all bets. Crafty sods..

Can't say I blame him if he does indeed want to leave. Only ourselves to blame for that. 

I don't really care who the next manager is to be honest. As long as they have the same passing/attacking philosophy it's fine by me. 

The thing that is getting to me the most, is that we seem to be in transition every year. Ever since the disaster season of 15/16, we have gone into the season with either a new manager, new philosophy, or a large influx of new sigings. 

Next season is shaping up to be another season in 'transition', and im sure the following season will be the same after we inevitably change much of the aging squad when the ban is finished. 

After that Mourinho title win, we were the most attractive team to play for in England, and we looked the most likely to win a champions league. 

Since then, we have been in perpetual transition, and have regressed while 3 teams built around us 2 of which are now in a totally different league to us, and the 3rd managing to reach a champions league final, while not spending a penny and playing at a neutral ground for 18 months. 

So i am worried about where will be in another 2 years of transition,  i can only see us losing even more ground on City, Liverpool, and Spurs. I'm just hoping arsenal and United dont get their sh*t together before us, because i can see us getting dragged down to battling with Everton and Wolves if were not careful. We have seen what poor decisions and instability have done at great clubs like Milan, and if keep we flitting from one plan to the next every season, there us only one way we will go as a club.

Now it seems the great hope is Cech+Lampard+Academy, none of which are remotely qualified to the jobs they are being tasked with yet in my opinion. Im not saying they cant excel, but the of experience would make this the most risky season under Roman. Who knows maybe Cech turns out to be a world class Director of Football, maybe Lampard is a world class manager, maybe Abraham and Mount will be top 4 level players. 

I just hope we dont look back in 12 months on this season being another failed experiment. 

When is the last time we have gone into a season, with the confidence we had the players and management to win the title?

Probably 5 years ago when signed Costa snd Fabregas. 

When will next go into a season with that same confidence? 

Not in the forseeable future in my opinion.

1 hour ago, EdinburghBlue said:

I actually canni believe I’ve just read that. Despite it being a ‘glorified friendly’ I’ll still be happy if we win the European super cup & I quite enjoy when we win the community shield as well although I wouldn’t cry if we lost.

 

Dismissing the likes of the FA & League Cup though is embarrassing. I’m not usually one to back up the folk that call people plastic and glory hunters but this post sums that up to perfection.

I'd be buzzing if we won a f**king charity shield, especially given that we've lost the last 5 that we've been in. 

9 hours ago, DannyVblue said:

Sarri has said it a number of times now that he loves the league and he wants to stay. I’ve heard it with my own ears from the horses mouth and so must all of you lot.

Instead of believing the above, you’d rather believe what you hear from a bunch of 3rd party 2-bob journalists who’s main business is to sell papers or increase traffic to their websites.

I can believe that Juve are interested in Sarri, why wouldn’t they be he’s had a great few years. This is where the rumours have come from. 

If our board show Sarri a bit of love, congratulate him on the season and tell him that they want him to stay, there is no way that Sarri will be leaving this summer. 

Di Marzio and Skysports haven’t got a clue. Pure guesswork.

there is far too much noise form Italy for it to be untrue i think right now.  Pedulla was the one who told us all last summer he was our main choice when people laughed him off and said its Blanc.  He has links to Sarri according to the Italian fans.  This is Sarri wanting to leave our club to return home on 6m a year and coach the champions of Serie A.. it is not that unfeasible that he'd choose that over staying. Maybe his family want to return home?

When you say 2 bob journalists though, when it comes to Juventus Romeo Agresti to name one, is considered top tier

We'd all like him to stay and see what he can do (while adjusting his own management style) but i think we all knows what the outcome is looking like.

23 hours ago, buzzcfc said:

Got the lottery numbers too? You f**king moron. 

Welcome to the close season folks ?

2 hours ago, terraloon said:

Not sure that would be a remote possibility irrespective the deadline has passed and we will soon find out.

I personally won’t be disappointed if Sari leaves. That said I won’t be disappointed if he stays my wife however who like me is a season ticket holder hates his brand of football and wants him gone.Sari is very much a marmite manger.

As for it being too early for Frank I can’t agree at all with that.

 

What would  it be better say in 12 or 24 months when he quite possibly is managing a mid table championship team at Derby? You may have a point if say he were going to manage say Palace a club he would have to learn about them and they about him but him managing at Chelsea at this point in time would be perfect timing.

With Cech being a pointed to the board Frank would  have someone in place who he knows and indeed already has worked together likewise Jody if he were too follow clearly is  a very talented coach and again there is already an established working relationship between them. In the background there are the likes of Cudicini and possibly Zola and indeed who knows perhaps JT.

Frank and Jody will have seen many of the academy graduates,(who are now being talked about as potentially now able to graduate to the first team) develop they will know and  above all trust them

Above all however there is it seems a very comfortable relationship between Frank, Cech and Terry and RA and that is crucial but that’s not all there is a very close bond between Frank and the supporters and that will buy him time.

When Robbie was appointed following the CL win it was almost forced on the club and yes he had done well I always felt however  that it was as much about the senior players grabbing things by the scruff of the neck and driving things forward as opposed to him being a great coach.

Was it too early for Pep when he was appointed at Barca, or what about Zidane at Real?

I know it’s a different era but was it too early for the likes of Cruyff at Barca or Dalgliesh when he stepped up at Liverpool or what about when we appointed Hoddle after he had managed for little or no time at Swindon? 

Frank is an articulate and intelligent man he has energy and playing  experience so for me it’s a no brainier if indeed Sari does leave.

The model that RA introduced at Chelsea has been hugely successful but to a degree that model needs a revamp the transfer ban could be the catalyst in creating and trusting that pathway from the academy to first team but that pathway can only work if the head coach is comfortable in his own skin and as has being clearly evidenced the likes of JM,AC and now MS very clearly became agitated and under a type of pressure I just don’t think Frank would be subjected to.

 

 

Spot on

IF he leaves why does it have to be fans that have pushed him out, the chanting, or the club being run badly.   Why can't it maybe be accepted that he considers Juventus a bigger club and would rather manage them than Chelsea, and so therefore he wants to quit? Maybe we'd have liked him to stay ideally but he wants to go - Maybe as stated his family and him want to go back home to Italy? Maybe going back to Italy was always his plan but rather than go from Napoli straight to another, he tasted English football first, and always had the idea of returning depending on the offer received?

 

 The constant digs at our fans because people are getting pissy about him maybe leaving is ridiculous; as is some of the overreacting.  We have sacked far better managers and survived in the end, and we will do again

2 hours ago, terraloon said:

Not sure that would be a remote possibility irrespective the deadline has passed and we will soon find out.

I personally won’t be disappointed if Sari leaves. That said I won’t be disappointed if he stays my wife however who like me is a season ticket holder hates his brand of football and wants him gone.Sari is very much a marmite manger.

As for it being too early for Frank I can’t agree at all with that.

 

What would  it be better say in 12 or 24 months when he quite possibly is managing a mid table championship team at Derby? You may have a point if say he were going to manage say Palace a club he would have to learn about them and they about him but him managing at Chelsea at this point in time would be perfect timing.

With Cech being a pointed to the board Frank would  have someone in place who he knows and indeed already has worked together likewise Jody if he were too follow clearly is  a very talented coach and again there is already an established working relationship between them. In the background there are the likes of Cudicini and possibly Zola and indeed who knows perhaps JT.

Frank and Jody will have seen many of the academy graduates,(who are now being talked about as potentially now able to graduate to the first team) develop they will know and  above all trust them

Above all however there is it seems a very comfortable relationship between Frank, Cech and Terry and RA and that is crucial but that’s not all there is a very close bond between Frank and the supporters and that will buy him time.

When Robbie was appointed following the CL win it was almost forced on the club and yes he had done well I always felt however  that it was as much about the senior players grabbing things by the scruff of the neck and driving things forward as opposed to him being a great coach.

Was it too early for Pep when he was appointed at Barca, or what about Zidane at Real?

I know it’s a different era but was it too early for the likes of Cruyff at Barca or Dalgliesh when he stepped up at Liverpool or what about when we appointed Hoddle after he had managed for little or no time at Swindon? 

Frank is an articulate and intelligent man he has energy and playing  experience so for me it’s a no brainier if indeed Sari does leave.

The model that RA introduced at Chelsea has been hugely successful but to a degree that model needs a revamp the transfer ban could be the catalyst in creating and trusting that pathway from the academy to first team but that pathway can only work if the head coach is comfortable in his own skin and as has being clearly evidenced the likes of JM,AC and now MS very clearly became agitated and under a type of pressure I just don’t think Frank would be subjected to.

 

 

spot on.  yes matchday support (and others) are majority Sarri out, i witnessed it myself.   It's some of the most toxic atmosphere i have ever experienced.   I think Lampard and Morris are nailed on

5 minutes ago, RickUK said:

IF he leaves why does it have to be fans that have pushed him out, the chanting, or the club being run badly.   Why can't it maybe be accepted that he considers Juventus a bigger club and would rather manage them than Chelsea, and so therefore he wants to quit? Maybe we'd have liked him to stay ideally but he wants to go - Maybe as stated his family and him want to go back home to Italy? Maybe going back to Italy was always his plan but rather than go from Napoli straight to another, he tasted English football first, and always had the idea of returning depending on the offer received?

 

 The constant digs at our fans because people are getting pissy about him maybe leaving is ridiculous; as is some of the overreacting.  We have sacked far better managers and survived in the end, and we will do again

Our fans are getting blamed for this, even if you think it wasn't their fault, the media do, they have definitely pinning the blame on us. 

Just now, coco said:

Our fans are getting blamed for this, even if you think it wasn't their fault, the media do, they have definitely pinning the blame on us. 

the media will also find a way to pin it on Roman sacking another manager, when he clearly has/will have walked.  Trust me, they will find some bit of info which could indicate we maybe paid him off.  Sarri news is really split among juve fans, some want him, some absolutely dont

 

2 minutes ago, coco said:

Our fans are getting blamed for this, even if you think it wasn't their fault, the media do, they have definitely pinning the blame on us. 

Do you have a link to any of those articles? I haven't seen it yet myself.

1 minute ago, Sindre said:

Do you have a link to any of those articles? I haven't seen it yet myself.

It's not hidden on the internet you know.

Despite delivering a more than adequate performance in terms of end-of-season results, Sarri endured consistent criticism from a significant portion of the club's supporters throughout the campaign.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11732655/maurizio-sarri-tells-chelsea-he-wants-to-leave-the-club-this-summer

(maybe) unpopular opinion: if Sarri does go, I would prefer Lampard over Allegri as the latter would reverse the progress toward attacking football that we've made over last season (if any)

49 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Well, I guess...here we go again.

Take your pick:

Frank Lampard
1/3

Massimilano Allegri
3/1

Diego Simeone
12/1

Nuno Espírito Santo
14/1

Jose Mourinho
16/1

Steve Holland
20/1

Brendan Rodgers
25/1

Gian Piero Gasperini
25/1

Gianfranco Zola
25/1

Javi Gracia
25/1

Laurent Blanc
25/1

Arsene Wenger
33/1

Eddie Howe
33/1

Emma Hayes
33/1

Guus Hiddink
33/1

John Terry
33/1

Marcelo Bielsa
33/1

Thomas Tuchel
33/1

Didier Deschamps
40/1

Luis Enrique
40/1

Carlo Ancelotti
50/1

Leonid Slutsky
50/1

Mikel Arteta
50/1

Sean Dyche
50/1

Arteta?? How the hell did he get on the list, did not see that coming  

No Espirito Santo for me, too catholic a name, we're not going to sing the name of the holy ghost   Even a Slutsky is preferable, more fun anyway.

2 minutes ago, coco said:

It's not hidden on the internet you know.

Despite delivering a more than adequate performance in terms of end-of-season results, Sarri endured consistent criticism from a significant portion of the club's supporters throughout the campaign.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11732655/maurizio-sarri-tells-chelsea-he-wants-to-leave-the-club-this-summer

Not everyone are as crafty as you on this internet thing ?

Thanks anyways, although i'd say that there is more stating two facts instead of putting the blame on the supporters but thats just me.

On 23/05/2019 at 10:23, bisright1 said:

How many points do you think we will get next year?

Not sure, but odds on Drinkwater getting a few ?   

 

Apt name really, considering he clearly drank something a bit stronger

Edited June 1, 20197 yr by Shug

19 minutes ago, RickUK said:

spot on.  yes matchday support (and others) are majority Sarri out, i witnessed it myself.   It's some of the most toxic atmosphere i have ever experienced.   I think Lampard and Morris are nailed on

Not sure it’s at the same level as when FSW was here

Must be off season time, when people complain about winning Europa league. Just look at the teams got knocked out along the way, Napoli, Inter, Valencia, it's not an easy cup to win. The Sarri in or out, either way makes lots of sense, just hope an agreement is reached soon so we don't have to relive what happened 12 months ago. At no stage Roman or the board tried to push him out, criticized by the fans should be water off the ducks back for a professional player or manager.

Must be off season time, when people complain about winning Europa league. Just look at the teams got knocked out along the way, Napoli, Inter, Valencia, it's not an easy cup to win. The Sarri in or out, either way makes lots of sense, just hope an agreement is reached soon so we don't have to relive what happened 12 months ago. At no stage Roman or the board tried to push him out, criticized by the fans should be water off the ducks back for a professional player or manager.

I think if we decide not to appeal the ban we'll appoint Lampard. He is already starting our youngsters at Derby, plus he has Jody as his assistant who managed most of them.

I'm not sure that is good for him or us though. 

If we have our ban lifted I can see us going for someone more experienced. Allegri is the obvious candidate. If we want to continue down the progressive football route wouldn't surprise me if we made a play for Ten Hag. 

20 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Do you have a link to any of those articles? I haven't seen it yet myself.

It doesn't take much to find the narrative journalists are taking;

 

‘Chelsea boss Sarri led the club to third in the table and also the Europa League but the fans have never taken to him and he could be keen on a return to Italy’. John Cross, Daily Mirror.

 

‘But his reign has been marred with fan unrest over the football on show and treatment of supporter-favourite Callum Hudson-Odoi'. Jamie Gordon,The Sun

I guess another new start of a transition period, how long have we been on transition now?

Are Liverpool, City and Spurs still in transition?

2 minutes ago, fitz said:

It doesn't take much to find the narrative journalists are taking;

 

‘Chelsea boss Sarri led the club to third in the table and also the Europa League but the fans have never taken to him and he could be keen on a return to Italy’. John Cross, Daily Mirror.

 

‘But his reign has been marred with fan unrest over the football on show and treatment of supporter-favourite Callum Hudson-Odoi'. Jamie Gordon,The Sun

Not just the media pinning it on us,  fans from other clubs are laughing at the situation, they see us pissing off a good manager that has won silverware already, been endorsed by Pep himself, and has started to show signs of playing a style of football that if mastered even slightly will keep the silverware rolling in. Thats how they see it, heard it first hand from a liverpool fan this morning and a similar from other fans i have spoken to.

I cannot believe Allegri is the fav with Chelsea fans for the job. Are they stuck n a timewarp and not seen how City and Liverpool have moved the game on in this country?     He will come in, organise the style of play and make us fairly hard to beat and that will  be that with zero hope of any kind of progressive play. Game after game of tedious, sterile, souless football.  Watching us grind out 1 goal wins against  the likes of Watford and Burnley and the hidious annd embarrassing prospect of us parking the bus against any good team.   His stoneage football has zero chance of competing for the title in this country in this era!. He'll plod along foor 18 months, boring everyone to death then the board will wake up, see we're still miles away from top, then sack him. Oh, and no doubt go and hire another manager who's style of play will be totally different.        ps. sorry for the way my post looks on the forum. Posted it on my web tv, which is slow and clumsy. 

Edited June 1, 20197 yr by Dixons